LASIX and potassium help! experts only please.

[satchboogie]

hello there.

i'm holding on a littel too much water from sustanon and have lasix at hand.

my question...

how much potassium should i be taking to compensate for the loss from lasix?

thank you.

 

[gwl9dta4]

hello there.

i'm holding on a littel too much water from sustanon and have lasix at hand.

my question...

how much potassium should i be taking to compensate for the loss from lasix?

thank you.

Depending on the dosage of Lasix you may not need the Potassium at all. Say one 50mg pill will not deplet you that severely. Also the potassium loss is more of an issue if you use interveinous(sp?) diuaretics.

 

[satchboogie]

bump

 

[ichabodcrane]

What else are you taking? Do you have any underlying co-morbidities (hepatic, cardiac, renal)? What strength of lasix are you taking? (20, 40, or 80 mg?) If you are taking it first for the first time, you should start low and go slow. 20 mg/d to start and titrate to response. You may get by on diet alone, depending on how much you take and for how long. Just be sure to eat a diet high in K+. Too much K+ can be as harmful as too little.

 

[satchboogie]

i was told be a few experts that taking 20mg every 6 hours for 3 days should do a good job.

now, for the potassium, i was planning on eating like 8 tomatoes a day. each has about 400mg of potassium.

but i'm not sure if that's good or not.

i dont wanna fuck anything up... you know?

 

[embolicintent]

Let me preface this by saying that Lasix and potassium are both dangerous medications to play around with. I do not reccomend taking lasix unless directed to do so by a doctor. Consuming potassium by diet is nothing to really worry about. A couple of bananas a day is perfect. As for oral supplement, I would not reccomend more than 20-40 meq per day if you choose this route though I reccomend just eating some bananas.

As for the lasix, it is a loop diuretic and thus can deplete you of potassium when used for extended periods or in high doses. 20-40 mg PO a day is pretty benign. I would reccomend simply taking it once a day for your needs. I wouldn't wander to far from a bathroom either

 

[Latamier]

Damn, lasix is popular this week. This is my 3rd responce to topics on lasix. From a MEDICAL STANDPOINT, I would never reccomend lasix to anyone when you can use aldactone, which is potassium sparing. As far as a dose for lasix goes, I would only use 20mg/day for maybe 2-3 days. Lasix works very well and very fast. Get ready to piss like a horse. One of the easiest ways to tell if your potassium is getting low is going to be by the severe muscle cramps you will have. Ever notice some of the pros needing help off stage? It wasnt cause their posing routine was so intense, it was from the cramps associated with loop dieuretics. Be VERY, VERY careful with lasix. I believe this is what claimed Mohamid Benaziza, and another pro not too many years ago.

 

[Warmachine_01]

if youre holding water from test, get some femara. 1.25mg eod absolutly killed my water retention. WAY better than arimidex

 

[liftsiron]

40mg lasix a day a few hours after your workout works best, the pot that get from your diet will surfice, as you stated tomatoes and baked potatoes are good sources. Do not exceed 40mg daily. Aldactone is good short term, long term use of aldactone results in lowering of androgens and has been known to cause bitch tits quite frequently. (I'm not referring to bodybuilders who use other drugs, but to patients who use it as a BP med).

 

[satchboogie]

so i took 20mg of lasix at 1 p.m and again at 7 p.m and everything was normal. didn't piss excessively at all!

so the next day i doubled the dose to 40mg at 2p.m and another 40mg at 8p.m and i'm certainly pissing a little more than i'm taking in.

again, only a LITTLE more.

i think 40mg 3 times a day at 4 hour intervals is what i'm gonna try tomorrow.

 

[Latamier]

so i took 20mg of lasix at 1 p.m and again at 7 p.m and everything was normal. didn't piss excessively at all!

so the next day i doubled the dose to 40mg at 2p.m and another 40mg at 8p.m and i'm certainly pissing a little more than i'm taking in.

again, only a LITTLE more.

i think 40mg 3 times a day at 4 hour intervals is what i'm gonna try tomorrow.

RIP, bro. That dose is way too high. Dont say that I didnt warn you. I guess Elite will be in the news again. Time to start deleting some more of my posts.

 

[satchboogie]

RIP, bro. That dose is way too high. Dont say that I didnt warn you. I guess Elite will be in the news again. Time to start deleting some more of my posts.

dude!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you're tripping hardcore bro!

chill. i feel great.

a few heart twitches here and there and irregular heartbeat but everything else is fine. just kidding man.

the 20mg twice a day didnt do shit. what was i supposed to do?

 

[Latamier]

Do 20mg twice a day and I guarantee you that you will start to piss like crazy within about 48hrs. I have used lasix in the past, and for some unknown reason it always seemed to hit me in the middle of the night. The cramps associated with lasix is also not worth it. Just be careful bro. The old saying "Up the dose and hope for the most" definately does not apply to lasix. It is a great drug for the purpose it was ment for, but a very dangerous drug if used incorrectly. Try a search on the net for Mohammid Benaziza(sp) and see what he died from. If I remember right, he dropped dead back stage after his routine.

 

[satchboogie]

it is news to me that lasix takes 48 hours at times to produce its effects. but will take it as a fair warning and not use it again for another 2 days.

thanks bro.

 

[Latamier]

it is news to me that lasix takes 48 hours at times to produce its effects. but will take it as a fair warning and not use it again for another 2 days.

thanks bro.

Good luck bro, let me know how everything is going in a couple of days.

 

[HighIntensity]

does a simple over the counter diuretic cause any problems over time?

 

[ichabodcrane]

does a simple over the counter diuretic cause any problems over time?

What were you thinking of? Most OTC's that I know of are pretty mild.
As far as the Lasix, it has an onset of diuresis is about 1 hr, peaks in 1-2 and duration is 6-8hr. So you will know rather shortley which dose is working for you. If you are only taking it for a few days, you should be ok. You just don't want to over-diurese. Pay careful attention to any abnormal cardiac function. I like the idea before of using an anti-e which will get to the root of the problem instead of just masking the problem. IMO using an anti-e would be safer than using than using a loop long term. Because you know when you stop the loop, you are going to regain the H2O.
As far as using spironolactone for a diuretic, I think there are better alternatives. It is effective if there is an imbalance in aldosterone (hyperaldosteronism). But it is also an antiandrogen and can block the AR and produce a decrease in net test expression. If you were using it for an antihhypertensive, there are much better alternatives as well. Anyways, since you have already started the furosemide, keep us posted. If you need something for long term (if you notice the edema comes back, which it probably will if you continue high enough doses of test), consider an anti-e.

 

[satchboogie]

ok....... i'm still alive.

day 1: 20mg at noon, 20mg 6 hours later. no physical change, no excess pissing.

day 2: 40mg at noon, 40mg 6 hours later, very little physical change, very slight extra pissing.

irregular hearbeat, a few panic attacks in the middle of the night (although that could be the effedrine, though i've been using efedrine and never had panic attacks.)

overall, i'm holding a little less water but wouldn't use again for the cardiac reasons.

i'm dissapointed slightly as lasix was notorious for being the "ultimate diuretic". didn't prove so!

 

[liftsiron]

If your taking a total of 80mg of lasix without pissing a bucket, its one of two things your lasix is not really lasix or your kidneys are shut down.

 

[satchboogie]

If your taking a total of 80mg of lasix without pissing a bucket, its one of two things your lasix is not really lasix or your kidneys are shut down.

i sure hope my lasix is bogues although i did purcahse is in a pharmacy in turkey.

now, about kidney shutdown.........

what the fuck could that be from and how do you go about getting it checked?