kung fu....why bother?

[Spanky11]

normally I don't like to get into a discussion over what martial art is better than the other, but kung fu is really not effective at all.

if you go to kazaa, and try to find a vid from a japanese tv show where some kungfu guys challenged a kyokushin dojo in 3 matches in full contact . I don't think you have to imagine what happened to the kung fu guys.

seriously, kung fu is worthless in my opinion.

 

[NFL's4puffs]

what a loada bollocks! u reckon kung fu is useless? you wanna
take a look at the shaolin monks in training my friend. if you
allready have then youll know that they are the best fighters
in the world. the training they do is unbelievable. think before
you make a judgement cause saying kung fu is useless is
like saying osama bin laden and bush are the best of mates!
hehe! id like to see any of the top ufc fighters say yeh ill
have a bout with Shi xeng shou! none of them would last 1
minute! FACT

 

[Big Rick Rock]

normally I don't like to get into a discussion over what martial art is better than the other, but kung fu is really not effective at all.

if you go to kazaa, and try to find a vid from a japanese tv show where some kungfu guys challenged a kyokushin dojo in 3 matches in full contact . I don't think you have to imagine what happened to the kung fu guys.

seriously, kung fu is worthless in my opinion.

Kung Fu is big money.... where else is mom going the leave her kids while she goes to the supermarket on a saturday?

 

[danielson]

some places are, just like some Karate places are now financial superstores for the instructor in charge, but like all things it really depends on the style


there are styles of kungfu where conditioning involves kicking a tree, or smashing your hands onto iron, kicked punched and slapped in the abdomen and lats, forearm and arm condtioning for blocking etc

then add to the fact that the elbow strikes i learnt in kung fu were equally emphasised in thai.you can't discount an entire system of martial arts which have been slowly refined for thousands of years on the basis of people that havent trained practically or are inexpreienced in it...

 

[digger]

Different strokes for different folks. I do enough damage to my hands pounding a keyboard all day without adding knuckle pushups.

I'm never going to find myself in the ring with Mike Tyson. If I run into a punk who thinks one of my ears would look good on his keychain, I'm better off with a style that comes naturally to me, even if it's not "the ultimate style."

 

[DANABOLIC55]

normally I don't like to get into a discussion over what martial art is better than the other, but kung fu is really not effective at all.

if you go to kazaa, and try to find a vid from a japanese tv show where some kungfu guys challenged a kyokushin dojo in 3 matches in full contact . I don't think you have to imagine what happened to the kung fu guys.

seriously, kung fu is worthless in my opinion.

In a sport situation where you can't gouge eyes & throats-yes it's worthless.
Kung fu is effective in very close range- and used to strike first and stay on top of him. If not, the kung fu person will get out boxed.
There are certain sensetivities that are developed that will help you in the thai clinch. However, if I had to choose, I would choose Thai over kung fu any day.

That smack your arms on iron shit is crazy though. It may have been a cool ritual back in the day. But, now it's unneccesary.

I would never rely on KF by itself.

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[illusionofsize]

normally I don't like to get into a discussion over what martial art is better than the other, but kung fu is really not effective at all.

seriously, kung fu is worthless in my opinion.

Really,????

Tell that to Dan Inosanto, PAul Vunak, Larry Hartsell.(JKD)
Tell it to Cicoy Canete, Tony Diego,Mark Wiley. (KALI/ESCRIMA)
Tell it to William Cheung, Jimmy Woo,Doc Fai Wong. (Kung FU)
Tell it to Hee il Choi, Jhoon Rhee ( TKD)
Tell it to Matsuma, the late JIgoro Kano. ( Okninawan Karate)
Tell it to Jean Yves Theriault, Don Wilson.(Kickboxing)

ALL OF WHOM credit their basis in martial arts to Chinese kung fu.

You do understand the "ART" part of martial arts???
Kung fu if not a valuable "street tool"(i disagree) is still the most beautiful and artful.

Don't bother with your reply" I'm talking about what works in a fight"
Christ, in that case forget any martial art....I'll take a gun.

Train in it before you speak to it.

 

[Babyfaced Assassin]

Whoa Illusionofsize!!!!
best answer ever!!

You are my new hero and role model!

 

[Spanky11]

Really,????

Tell that to Dan Inosanto, PAul Vunak, Larry Hartsell.(JKD)
Tell it to Cicoy Canete, Tony Diego,Mark Wiley. (KALI/ESCRIMA)
Tell it to William Cheung, Jimmy Woo,Doc Fai Wong. (Kung FU)
Tell it to Hee il Choi, Jhoon Rhee ( TKD)
Tell it to Matsuma, the late JIgoro Kano. ( Okninawan Karate)
Tell it to Jean Yves Theriault, Don Wilson.(Kickboxing)

ALL OF WHOM credit their basis in martial arts to Chinese kung fu.

You do understand the "ART" part of martial arts???
Kung fu if not a valuable "street tool"(i disagree) is still the most beautiful and artful.

Don't bother with your reply" I'm talking about what works in a fight"
Christ, in that case forget any martial art....I'll take a gun.

Train in it before you speak to it.

Actually, I have trained in it, and trained with alot of the guys that you mentioned above in seminars over the years. Regarding Kung Fu (the traditional styles at least), I found that there was just a little too much mysticism behind the whole thing, i mean Dim Mak, and all that crap.... I guess thats why I like Kyokushin karate - there is no bullshit, and it only uses what works. Kyokushin itself uses some KF movements, and nearly all modern arts rely on the circular movements in striking and blocking....but the thing is, its the traditional Kung Fu styles that haven't progressed, and thats why I think they are useless.

As for the other marital artists you named, I think you'll find that nearly all of them have incorporated many other styles into their arsenal - and not just "iron claw", and "preying mantis" (incidentally, where do they come up with these great names?).

I advise you to actually download the clip and see for yourself - trad KF is an "art" and yes, it does look beautiful, but I just find that it lacks any real power.

Just my (unasked for) .02c

 

[Big Rick Rock]

I think there are a lot of scam artist, or as Danabolics calls them "Strip Mall" senseis, that have damaged the reputation of Kung Fu... People just out to make money and not trying to advance the art. They will take their students monthly tuition and don't really care about their progress. They use the belt system as a retention tool and care nothing about advancing students based on skill.
What you get is a bunch of kids that have basicaly PAID for their belts and then get the snot beaten out of them by a good boxer, or wrestler or even a street fighter.