kung fu....why bother?

[theoak01]

In a sport situation where you can't gouge eyes & throats-yes it's worthless.
Kung fu is effective in very close range- and used to strike first and stay on top of him. If not, the kung fu person will get out boxed.
There are certain sensetivities that are developed that will help you in the thai clinch. However, if I had to choose, I would choose Thai over kung fu any day.

That smack your arms on iron shit is crazy though. It may have been a cool ritual back in the day. But, now it's unneccesary.

I would never rely on KF by itself.

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bro there are enough different styles you could incorperate a few different styles and be very effective inclose or on defense

 

[ManOfArms]

Kung Fu is big money.... where else is mom going the leave her kids while she goes to the supermarket on a saturday?

Not the school I attended, I was very lucky to have such a good instructer as the one I had. His style of teaching didn't really work out for a lot of people, which was the reason only about 6 of us remained year after year. Finally his rent on the studio was too high to cover with the number of students he had.

 

[araiber]

The monks comment, regarding them having the ability and strength to win in the octagon, or the ring in pride, is a bit farfetched. They are extremely powerful, extremely well trained because of they're belief and traditions, and as stated, dont ever use they're fighting ability to fight, simply to showcase the abilities on its own. There have been many "david vs. goliath" fights where the smaller, quicker, and possibly weaker guy won, but if vitor belfort comes out swinging towards a monk, I honestly dont think that the monk will block his shots, and do a roundhouse kick to his head.

Ive seen monks balance themselves on they're index fingers alone, and its an insane amount of strength that they exhibit, but that alone cannot determine a winner by today's standard.

If you place Bill Kazmier into a ring with Randy Couture, its hard to say who will win. Bill having the insane strength and ability to rip him apart, or Couture's magnificent fighting ability.

Its all how you apply a martial art, and it is what it is. There are always more effective ways to do things different ways. Some people see kicking someone in the balls during a fight as being a pussy, some see it as being ok, because it is a fight, and the opponent should be aware that his balls, too, are a target, and can be hit, just the same as his head, stomach, or face.

 

[Kane Fan]

what a loada bollocks! u reckon kung fu is useless? you wanna
take a look at the shaolin monks in training my friend. if you
allready have then youll know that they are the best fighters
in the world. the training they do is unbelievable. think before
you make a judgement cause saying kung fu is useless is
like saying osama bin laden and bush are the best of mates!
hehe! id like to see any of the top ufc fighters say yeh ill
have a bout with Shi xeng shou! none of them would last 1
minute! FACT

how old are you?

 

[Kane Fan]

some places are, just like some Karate places are now financial superstores for the instructor in charge, but like all things it really depends on the style


there are styles of kungfu where conditioning involves kicking a tree, or smashing your hands onto iron, kicked punched and slapped in the abdomen and lats, forearm and arm condtioning for blocking etc

then add to the fact that the elbow strikes i learnt in kung fu were equally emphasised in thai.you can't discount an entire system of martial arts which have been slowly refined for thousands of years on the basis of people that havent trained practically or are inexpreienced in it...

that's true
but if the system dosn't allow at least light contact sparring I think we can discount it alltogether
except for getting in generaly good shape

I would be interested in trying out some styles of Kung Fu but I wouldn't count on it to turn me into a fighting machine
I wouldn't count on any one style really
but I'd give it a try to say I had given it a try
I'd like to try Snake Style KungFu actually because I think it would help with hand speed
Tiger Style would be cool just cus you know Tigers
and there is some style that is a descendant of Tiger style I believe that is Bear style I love Bears so that would be awsome to

 

[BOSSDAWG]

first chinese boxing is still very effective.no 2 bear and fu jow pai are two different arts. Plus monks practice sanda all the time which a fight bare knuckles with no rules on an octagnal platform. The monks fight all surrounding schools because they hafta uphold thier fighting repution. An example of a sanda and sanshou stylist would be Cung lee. obovuoisly kane would not like fu jow do to no glove training and all bare knuckle heavy bag training in the style.

 

[Kane Fan]

The monks comment, regarding them having the ability and strength to win in the octagon, or the ring in pride, is a bit farfetched. They are extremely powerful, extremely well trained because of they're belief and traditions, and as stated, dont ever use they're fighting ability to fight, simply to showcase the abilities on its own. There have been many "david vs. goliath" fights where the smaller, quicker, and possibly weaker guy won, but if vitor belfort comes out swinging towards a monk, I honestly dont think that the monk will block his shots, and do a roundhouse kick to his head.

Ive seen monks balance themselves on they're index fingers alone, and its an insane amount of strength that they exhibit, but that alone cannot determine a winner by today's standard.

If you place Bill Kazmier into a ring with Randy Couture, its hard to say who will win. Bill having the insane strength and ability to rip him apart, or Couture's magnificent fighting ability.

Its all how you apply a martial art, and it is what it is. There are always more effective ways to do things different ways. Some people see kicking someone in the balls during a fight as being a pussy, some see it as being ok, because it is a fight, and the opponent should be aware that his balls, too, are a target, and can be hit, just the same as his head, stomach, or face.

I think what you say makes a lot of sence
the motivation factor
I am not convinced that doing tricks WITHOUT AN OPPONENT has any impact what so ever on what you can do against someone fighting you but even assuming the monks are actionmoviebadasses, they have nothing making them want to compete, no motivation
a police officer, doing his job, with that motivation can out grapple somebody that would destroy that same officer in a grappling tournament
motivation, whatathletes call hunger is a big impact
you can't assume because someone can shatter a brick with his ballsack he will defeat a fighter who can't do the same thing

 

[Sy Ali]

I once saw this video clip somewhere on the internet, I don't remember where so you have no idea what I'm talking about, so I'll be vague and say it had a title something like so and so but it featured some stuff with this one guy and this other guy where this one guy really kicked the crap out of this other guy and I don't who they were or what their credentials are or really why they were fighting, or where or what the rules were or really the point of the video but I'm going to make a broad statement with no supporting evidence.


Trolling? Yep!

 

[Kane Fan]

first chinese boxing is still very effective.no 2 bear and fu jow pai are two different arts. Plus monks practice sanda all the time which a fight bare knuckles with no rules on an octagnal platform. The monks fight all surrounding schools because they hafta uphold thier fighting repution. An example of a sanda and sanshou stylist would be Cung lee. obovuoisly kane would not like fu jow do to no glove training and all bare knuckle heavy bag training in the style.

do you think you could have this translated to English
all I got out of it was monks spar
and there is a whole paragraph there so it seems there should be more

 

[Spanky11]

I once saw this video clip somewhere on the internet, I don't remember where so you have no idea what I'm talking about, so I'll be vague and say it had a title something like so and so but it featured some stuff with this one guy and this other guy where this one guy really kicked the crap out of this other guy and I don't who they were or what their credentials are or really why they were fighting, or where or what the rules were or really the point of the video but I'm going to make a broad statement with no supporting evidence.


Trolling? Yep!

actually, i do know where that was filmed - hell, I have even trained at that dojo a few years ago. and yes, i have even seen the entire video from that network station...the local kung fu club challenged kyokushin karate on sparring, and so the instructor picked his best 3 guys who were training and that was the result.

trolling? yes. a moron that you are? definately.

dim mak to you