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Here is the link to my old journal.....

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6604714#post6604714

This will be a 3 week load on volume and I wanted to start a new journal for it because after a while, journals get hard for people following along to make sense out of them.

Sunday:

Behind-the-neck push press (5-5-5-3-3)
Front Squat (5-5-5-5-5-1-1-1)
Deadlift (up to a 5, 3, or 1) OR Power Cleans/Clean Pulls (I'll alternate weekly)
Incline D-Bells (4 sets, 12-20 range for big tits)

Monday:

Power Snatch (reps will vary as I am not 'training' these and they are more to recover from Sunday's pulling onslaught)

Snatch Pull (4-5 sets of 3)
Decline Situps (3 sets)
Calf Raises (3 sets)

Tuesday:

Flat Bench (5x5 add weight each set)
Pendlay Row (5x5 add weight each set)
Weighted Dips (3 sets, heavy and hard)
Front Squat (5x5, straight weight, roughly 85% of my best 5)

Wednesday:

Off

Thursday:

Close-Grip Bench (5x5 straight weight)
Back Squat (5x5 straight, followed by a few heavier singles if I feel fast/strong)
Strict Overhead Press (5x5 add weight each set)
Jump Shrug (6x5....I know many like high reps, but I prefer the low reppers, lower reps = more weight, which = bigger traps, which always = good)

Friday:

Random gay day....chins (which are heterosexual) .....biceps and calves (which are NOT heterosexual)

Saturday:

Watch college football and try to eat 10,000 cals to prepare for Sunday's onslaught
 
G'luck biggt.

If you do power cleans, then I would not worry about going over 80% on the power snatches. It's only if you go nutty with the deadlifts, then scale back the snatches. Agree?
 
A schedule built around NCAA games...nice. ;)

Random question: do you do any stretching, or do the frequent workouts (and the fact that you've been doing these lifts since your early teens) make flexibility a non-issue?
 
super_rice said:
G'luck biggt.

If you do power cleans, then I would not worry about going over 80% on the power snatches. It's only if you go nutty with the deadlifts, then scale back the snatches. Agree?
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Yeah, I agree 100%, and thats the plan, I don't plan on getting anywhere near PR territory on the snatches tomorrow.....actually, if I even TRIED to push the snatches tomorrow, I'd probably miss everything over 80%-ish anyway, lol.....but they day after cleans, I should feel crisper, so I'll just relax and hit what I hit on the snatches and it should be harmless enough.

Shadow.....Guiness is one of those acquired tastes, lol.

CS....I don't do any stretching whatsoever, lol, I am not saying that is necessarily a good thing, but like you said, I started lifting like this as a 150lb 13 year old, and the flexibility was always just a non-issue on everything because the size gain is gradual and happens AS you keep training, even as I got bigger, I never lost any flexibility and never had any need to stretch......in high school during the president's physical fitness challenges when we'd do the V-Sit to measure flexibility, I was a freak, lol, I'd give most of the girls a run for their money.

Here is today's workout (Sun 9/10/06)

Behind the neck push press: 135x5, 185x5, 225x5, 245x5, 275x3, 275x3

Front Squat: 135x5, 225x5, 275x5, 315x5, 335x5, 355x1, 370x1, 385x1 (the 335x5 was by far the toughest and I thought I'd black out, the singles weren't bad at all)

Deadlift: 225x5, 315x5, 405x5, 495x5, 585x3 (pr for 3 reps), 585x3 (again 3 rep PR) (the 1st set at 585 was a grinder, the guy I DLed with said my hips were sky high and I about straight legged them, the 2nd set I consciously started each rep hamstrings to calves and drove the legs and they popped off the floor and it was a fairly easy set)

Incline Dumbells: 95s x 15-15-12-13

Overall a great workout....on deadlifts, I worked in with a guy who was about 5'8" and he told he was 54 years old and 165lbs, he was impressive as hell and worked up to 495 for a double.....he told me he drank a 'fair amount' of Jameson's during Notre Dame's 'trouncing' of Penn St yesterday and that he always feels his best 'the day after a dance with fine Irish Whiskey'....lol, the guy was quite a character to say the least and a tough lifter too.....if I catch him again on a DL day, I'll definitely work with him.
 
lol... excellent title choice... still working on building those jacked innear pecs I see ;)

Guiness is a fine beer and goes excellent with some spicy food to cut the burn :)

Cheers on the 2 set DL PR bro :beer:
 
String Bean, I guess calves aren't all that gay, lol...well training only calves and then just wearing knee-length shorts to cover the thighs is gay....actually, wearing shorts that are shorter than knee length is even gayer than not training legs, and much gayer than gayer even than biceps blasting, lol

Al, it was a depressing Saturday for sure, lol.....Ohio St unfortunately looked sharp.....it is gonna be a long season looking at Tressel in those damn sweater vests, lol
 
A fresh journal to post crap in, cool :D

nice pulling ! And for 2 sets of triples too, you should be pulling 600+ for reps really soon. Be interesting to see how the volume increase affects pulling strength, mine goes down fast when I hit a certain point of overtraining
 
lol at DB work for tits.. haha!!

and i wear soccer shorts shorter than knee length.. and i'm the only one squatting ATG free weights in my gym.. i must be gay.. hehe..

great work on the PR dude..
 
Monday 9/11/06

Power Snatch: warmed-up good and long and then did 5 sets of 2 at 200 (which would be roughly 80% intensity I guess), then I did a 200x2 on the squat snatch just for good measure, I rode both reps down deep, and if I wore boxers, would have probably left a ball print on the floor.

Snatch Pull: 275x 4 sets of 3....these were fast and probably too easy, but I just want to use this to recover from the heavier pulls yesterday

Finished with 3 sets each of calf raises and decline situps......Ate 2 NY strip steaks and a bunch of other crap, lol...I need to get ready for a long night at the gym tomorrow.
 
BiggT said:
Here is the link to my old journal.....

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6604714#post6604714

This will be a 3 week load on volume and I wanted to start a new journal for it because after a while, journals get hard for people following along to make sense out of them.

Sunday:

Behind-the-neck push press (5-5-5-3-3)
Front Squat (5-5-5-5-5-1-1-1)
Deadlift (up to a 5, 3, or 1) OR Power Cleans/Clean Pulls (I'll alternate weekly)
Incline D-Bells (4 sets, 12-20 range for big tits)

Monday:

Power Snatch (reps will vary as I am not 'training' these and they are more to recover from Sunday's pulling onslaught)

Snatch Pull (4-5 sets of 3)
Decline Situps (3 sets)
Calf Raises (3 sets)

Tuesday:

Flat Bench (5x5 add weight each set)
Pendlay Row (5x5 add weight each set)
Weighted Dips (3 sets, heavy and hard)
Front Squat (5x5, straight weight, roughly 85% of my best 5)

Wednesday:

Off

Thursday:

Close-Grip Bench (5x5 straight weight)
Back Squat (5x5 straight, followed by a few heavier singles if I feel fast/strong)
Strict Overhead Press (5x5 add weight each set)
Jump Shrug (6x5....I know many like high reps, but I prefer the low reppers, lower reps = more weight, which = bigger traps, which always = good)

Friday:

Random gay day....chins (which are heterosexual) .....biceps and calves (which are NOT heterosexual)

Saturday:

Watch college football and try to eat 10,000 cals to prepare for Sunday's onslaught
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biggt, do you have any advice for a skinny guy who wants to develop a large appetite? i'd love to be able to get down 5k+ cals a day
 
eager2learn said:
biggt, do you have any advice for a skinny guy who wants to develop a large appetite? i'd love to be able to get down 5k+ cals a day
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Thats a good quality link.....you just have to build up to it over time. If you're some type of ecto-mesomorph (which I think you are from one of your threads) it is GOOD, because it is much easier to put down foods that taste good than it is to choke down "bodybuilding" foods....you can sit down, pound down your steaks and chicken or whatever protein like you're going to 'work'.....and once you get the protein you need, you can go to town on whatever you want, mashed potatoes, corn on the cob, fries, whatever junk carbs that are dense in calories etc etc.

You can also consider adding big shakes if appetite is a problem......get a good tasting, high calories gainer like muscle milk.....mix 2-3 scoops with whole milk, add in a bananam a ton of peanut butter, and a couple scoops of ice cream and you're good for probably 1200-1500 cals a shake, and anybody can always drink a good-tasting shake no mater how 'unhungry' they feel.
 
BiggT said:
Thats a good quality link.....you just have to build up to it over time. If you're some type of ecto-mesomorph (which I think you are from one of your threads) it is GOOD, because it is much easier to put down foods that taste good than it is to choke down "bodybuilding" foods....you can sit down, pound down your steaks and chicken or whatever protein like you're going to 'work'.....and once you get the protein you need, you can go to town on whatever you want, mashed potatoes, corn on the cob, fries, whatever junk carbs that are dense in calories etc etc.

You can also consider adding big shakes if appetite is a problem......get a good tasting, high calories gainer like muscle milk.....mix 2-3 scoops with whole milk, add in a bananam a ton of peanut butter, and a couple scoops of ice cream and you're good for probably 1200-1500 cals a shake, and anybody can always drink a good-tasting shake no mater how 'unhungry' they feel.
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hey thanks for the advice.

a lot of times, hell most of the time, i always feel like i'm running out of energy and could use more calories. especially in the gym after getting through the first hour of o-lifting, i'm thinking, damn, i really wish i would have eaten more, i'm feel extremely hungry already.

then i think, damn, i did eat as much as i can. then i have plans of going home and slamming a huge 1k calorie plus meal, but my stomach gets full after 600 or so and I come up short again.

it's good to know you can increase appetite over time though. i'm def. going to try to each a little bit more each meal and develope a larger capacity for food.

thanks!
 
eager2learn said:
hey thanks for the advice.

a lot of times, hell most of the time, i always feel like i'm running out of energy and could use more calories. especially in the gym after getting through the first hour of o-lifting, i'm thinking, damn, i really wish i would have eaten more, i'm feel extremely hungry already.

then i think, damn, i did eat as much as i can. then i have plans of going home and slamming a huge 1k calorie plus meal, but my stomach gets full after 600 or so and I come up short again.

it's good to know you can increase appetite over time though. i'm def. going to try to each a little bit more each meal and develope a larger capacity for food.

thanks!
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i have a glass of milk with 1/4 cup of oats a little before i workout... i just never feel hungry... maybe around 45-60 mins before i hit the gym is fine for me at least.
 
Also, for workouts, you can try adding in some bars for endurance athletes, a lot of times I will eat 2 Power Bars and they always get me through.....I used to always feel flat because I'd do a workout with olympic lifts and presses and squats and that's damn near 2 hours if not more, so I always need to make sure I eat enough to get me through......

What I have been doing lately is eating an hr before the gym....it is either a BIG PB and honey sandwich and a quart of milk (only if milk is easy on your stomach, if not opt for something that is).....or 2 power bars and a Gatorade.....or something along those lines....also, 2 eggo waffles w/ peanut butter and honey is always good for me.....if you do an MRP like MetRx, do 2 packets, I find 1 isn't enough and it is burned up in no time and I want to fall flat on my face mid-workout.
 
BiggT said:
Also, for workouts, you can try adding in some bars for endurance athletes, a lot of times I will eat 2 Power Bars and they always get me through.....I used to always feel flat because I'd do a workout with olympic lifts and presses and squats and that's damn near 2 hours if not more, so I always need to make sure I eat enough to get me through......

What I have been doing lately is eating an hr before the gym....it is either a BIG PB and honey sandwich and a quart of milk (only if milk is easy on your stomach, if not opt for something that is).....or 2 power bars and a Gatorade.....or something along those lines....also, 2 eggo waffles w/ peanut butter and honey is always good for me.....if you do an MRP like MetRx, do 2 packets, I find 1 isn't enough and it is burned up in no time and I want to fall flat on my face mid-workout.
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Honey??? I ask because I just take a tsp or two when I feel like something sweet but is it actually benefical?
 
ck2006 said:
Honey??? I ask because I just take a tsp or two when I feel like something sweet but is it actually benefical?
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i'll chime in real quick for ya T :) - hope you don't mind.

ck... when a man of his muscle mass needs to take in 6,000 calories a day just to Maintain, he takes them in all forms.

Simple sugar such as honey is great preworkout fuel as well.

T needs a disclaimer... "Don't try this unless you're me folks" lol
 
sgtslaughter said:
i'll chime in real quick for ya T :) - hope you don't mind.

ck... when a man of his muscle mass needs to take in 6,000 calories a day just to Maintain, he takes them in all forms.

Simple sugar such as honey is great preworkout fuel as well.

T needs a disclaimer... "Don't try this unless you're me folks" lol
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I want to be able to eat 6000 calories :) I will try it before I work out, the honey, not 6000 calories! Thanks guys
 
Thanks, Sarge....

Worked out tonight....Tues. 9/12/06

Flat Bench: 135x10, 135x10, 225x5, 300x5, 315x5, 335x5, 345x5, 355x5, 320x8

Front Squat: 135x5, 225x5, 300x5x5 (about 50lbs less than I can hit for 1x5)

Dips: bodyweight plus 90lbs x 3 sets of 7, bodyweight x 21

Thats it for today....this was a good workout, and the bench put me in a great mood..triceps are torched...what I am gonna do is alternate Pendlay Rows w/ Chins on the extra day.....I don't want to 'push' either one over the next 3 weeks, just do them, and I am pulled out from Sun and Mon.
 
good pressin bro, what do u feel about overall volume if I do for example 3x5 at a set weight for bench...I threw in and additional 2x10 backoff sets today, but I didnt have a spotter so I didn't try 5x5 (and I dont know if I will be able to get 5x5 at this weight so I'm going down to a 3x5)
 
Honey is great stuff. Just about the only contraindication I know of on honey is not to give it to babies. It contains natural anti-biotics which can have dire consequences on the infant. Ever notice that your years-old honey never goes mouldy?

Honey and milk can make a great instant breakfast.
 
ChinkNasty said:
good pressin bro, what do u feel about overall volume if I do for example 3x5 at a set weight for bench...I threw in and additional 2x10 backoff sets today, but I didnt have a spotter so I didn't try 5x5 (and I dont know if I will be able to get 5x5 at this weight so I'm going down to a 3x5)
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That would be fine, as the increased weight for the 3x5 adds intensity, and the extra backoff sets add the volume you need......the next week, try a 4th set, and when you get 4x5, add a 5th set, then when you get 5x5, add some weight.
 
sgtslaughter said:
quality workout as always... what are you aiming for with the Flat, and how long do you usually "push" a lift for?
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Typically 4 weeks, but until this past April, I hadn't been on a flat bench in about 2 years, so the gains came quick and for a longer period of time. Since April, my 5s have stalled a bunch times, but I'd been able to change the reps and the scheme a little here and there and keep it moving......I am gonna unload after these 3 weeks, then do a peaking cycle and see what I can get, after that, I'll probably do inclines for a while, not that they carryover to my bench, but they've always been my all-time favorite lift and I haven't paid much attention to them in a while.

I will say, I gained a quality 15lbs since April, and my waist size is the exact same, and other than staying stuffed to capacity all day long, I do attribute a lot of it it to the flat bench because I can handle much more weight on it than any other press and I think it places a great stimulus on the upper body.
 
ck2006 said:
Not sure I was just going to take 2 tsp what do you recommend??
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Well, I just layer it over the PB, lol....but 2 teaspoons would more than likely be just fine......I think you'll like it and feel energized and stable the whole workout.
 
BiggT said:
Well, I just layer it over the PB, lol....but 2 teaspoons would more than likely be just fine......I think you'll like it and feel energized and stable the whole workout.
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Sorry but the thought of honey over PB makes me want to hurl. I actually hate peanut butter, shhhhh don't tell anyone LOL.
 
ck2006 said:
Sorry but the thought of honey over PB makes me want to hurl. I actually hate peanut butter, shhhhh don't tell anyone LOL.
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You may want to get that checked out - that just ain't right :p

Are you looking fror something pre-workout? You could put the honey in some green tea and get a little boost from the caffeine in the tea.
 
Ck... I have honey that comes in a plastic squeeze bottle... I just tip my head back and open my mouth.

Sorry for jackin' the log T... had to let her know it's ok to have it alone, lol
 
ck2006 said:
Sorry but the thought of honey over PB makes me want to hurl. I actually hate peanut butter, shhhhh don't tell anyone LOL.
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how bout cashew or almond butter? Is is just the peanuts or the consistancy?
 
ck2006 said:
It is peanuts, I have sliced almonds for baking, is that ok?

Big T, sorry for jacking your thread :)
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Sorry T, but we got to help the man with trying to love da nuts..hahah!

Ok so eat almond butter.....1000000000000 x better than PB anyways! And no fungus...you do know peanuts are fungus!?
 
blueta2 said:
Sorry T, but we got to help the man with trying to love da nuts..hahah!

Ok so eat almond butter.....1000000000000 x better than PB anyways! And no fungus...you do know peanuts are fungus!?
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don't have almond butter, just sliced almonds right now, but I will by the butter. I love nuts, LOL just not peanuts ! :)
 
ck2006 said:
Sorry but the thought of honey over PB makes me want to hurl. I actually hate peanut butter, shhhhh don't tell anyone LOL.
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not gutsy enough to say that over in the womens forum, eh? :chomp:

biggt said:
I will say, I gained a quality 15lbs since April, and my waist size is the exact same
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<<giggle> just how big is biggt?



ok, ok.... /estro out :p
 
Training today was a 2 hour mind game......but I came out happy with it.

Back Squat: 135x10, 225x10, 315x5, 365x1 (here is where I was tempted to be a vagina and go to 385, but I said fuck you to that little voice in my head and went to 4 plates)....405x5x5....none of these were hard, it was a lot of volume, I hope I didn't burry myself, we'll see next week.

Close Grip Bench: 135x10, 225x5, 275x5, 315x5x5 (again, not super hard, but long, boring, and mentally draining though)

Strict Standing Overhead Press: 135x5, 185x5, 200x5, 205x5, 210x5, 215x5

Jump Shrug: 225x5, 315x5, 405x5, 495x5, 585x5, 585x5, 585x5

Got to the gym at 4:30.....left at 6:30.....I earned this one, I have to approach these high volume workouts with a blue collar mentality, I tried to talk myself out of each and every exercise and I tried to talk myself into pussy modifications.....but, I plowed through.....2 more weeks of hell, then a deload.
 
sweet gezus man!! Volume doesn't do that justice! I'll have to come up with a good "e-phrase" for ya ;)

I wanna know what fueled that one!? ... was it just consistant/the usual 6,000 cals or... did u load up last night?
 
Sarge, just the usual for the most part......an hr before the work, I had 2 PB and Honey sandwiches on white bread, with extra honey and damn near a half jar of PB, and I bought a quart of whole milk for the occasion.
 
BiggT said:
Training today was a 2 hour mind game......but I came out happy with it.

Back Squat: 135x10, 225x10, 315x5, 365x1 (here is where I was tempted to be a vagina and go to 385, but I said fuck you to that little voice in my head and went to 4 plates)....405x5x5....none of these were hard, it was a lot of volume, I hope I didn't burry myself, we'll see next week.

Close Grip Bench: 135x10, 225x5, 275x5, 315x5x5 (again, not super hard, but long, boring, and mentally draining though)

Strict Standing Overhead Press: 135x5, 185x5, 200x5, 205x5, 210x5, 215x5

Jump Shrug: 225x5, 315x5, 405x5, 495x5, 585x5, 585x5, 585x5

Got to the gym at 4:30.....left at 6:30.....I earned this one, I have to approach these high volume workouts with a blue collar mentality, I tried to talk myself out of each and every exercise and I tried to talk myself into pussy modifications.....but, I plowed through.....2 more weeks of hell, then a deload.
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Look at the payoff at the end of all your hard work.
No more talking yourself out of them or modifications! FOCUS :) :velvett: on your form!
 
I bet those jump shrugs were tough to get through at the end. LoL

It's good to see that it's not just me who takes a long time getting through 5 heavy sets of 5. I try to keep 'em to an hour max due to "other" time constraints, and I feel like I'm slouching by only getting through 3 exercises in that time frame. By the time I do 5 heavy sets of 5 on the back squat, I've chewed up 30-40 minutes with warmups.

Good job sticking with it.
 
Mop up day today.....

Chins: bodyweight x 10, 9, 8, 6, 6

D-Bell Hammer Curl: 50sx8, 60sx8, 65sx8, 70sx8

Cable Triceps Pushdown : I can't remember where the pin was, but did 3 sets of 20 just to get some blood moving around in my elbows

MUCH needed day off tomorrow, then power cleans, btn push presses, and heavy front squats on Sun
 
Lifted today....already off course, so just bear with me lol, but a great workout though.

Behind the neck push press: 135x5, 185x5, 185x5 (see below for why I did this set twice), 225x5, 245x5, 280x3 (PR), 280x3 (PR....or ties my new PR, lol)

Incline Press: 135x5, 225x5, 275x5, 300x5, 315x5 (Flats are still the main lift, but I love inclines more than trainig itself and wanted to do them)

Incline D-Bells: 110sx8-8-8-8

Felt good today, power cleans, clean pulls, and front squats tomorrow.

FYI on my form on BTN push press since there has been much discussion/interest about this lift.........here is what I do, I dip into a 1/4 squat or a little more and try to squat the bar off of me and through the ceiling, squatting really fast with nowhere near my squatting weights causes my heels to come up off the ground like doing a jump squat almost, when the bar reaches it's highest point, I drive my heels back into the ground and 'press out' the last several inches.....the heavier the weight, the less pronounced the 'air' is, but it is still there.....the 1st warm-up set at 185, I tried it while consciously planting my heels through the floor, and the speed was horrendous for a push press because I was 'holding back', it basically felt like a strict press w/ a little momentum, the way I feel is if I am squatting as hard and fast as I can, the heels are gonna leave the ground, 'planting' them is just gonna cause you to hold back on the squat, thus fail at weights that count.......so thats my final verdict on PP form, lol.
 
al420 said:
That is a shit load of pressing bro - I marvel at the amount of work you can handle. How long did the workout take?
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^^^

You should have a personal plate loader. I bet that takes 2/3 of your workout time, lol.
 
Trained today.....Mon. 9/18/06

Power Clean: Bar x a bunch, 135x3, 135x3, 135x3, 185x3, 225x3, 255x3, 275x3, 300x1, 315x1, 320x1 (these felt great, and I am happy w/ the weights as I am training these every other week and not really pushing them right now)

Clean Pull: 365x3, 385x3, 405x3, 405x3

Front Squat: 135x5, 225x5, 275x5, 300x5, 325x5, 345x4, 345x4 (I wanted 5 on the first 345 set, and I think I was strong enough for 5, but I couldn't freaking breath on the 4th rep, and I didn't want to chance blacking out, lol....so I just did another set of 4 for good measure)

Overall, a good night.....Weighed 254, which is amazing because the way I have been eating, I deserve to weigh about 400lbs.
 
BiggT said:
Trained today.....Mon. 9/18/06

Power Clean: Bar x a bunch, 135x3, 135x3, 135x3, 185x3, 225x3, 255x3, 275x3, 300x1, 315x1, 320x1 (these felt great, and I am happy w/ the weights as I am training these every other week and not really pushing them right now)

Clean Pull: 365x3, 385x3, 405x3, 405x3

Front Squat: 135x5, 225x5, 275x5, 300x5, 325x5, 345x4, 345x4 (I wanted 5 on the first 345 set, and I think I was strong enough for 5, but I couldn't freaking breath on the 4th rep, and I didn't want to chance blacking out, lol....so I just did another set of 4 for good measure)

Overall, a good night.....Weighed 254, which is amazing because the way I have been eating, I deserve to weigh about 400lbs.
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You're a beast :-)
How many cals do u eat a day T? I do not eat enough!
 
blueta2 said:
You're a beast :-)
How many cals do u eat a day T? I do not eat enough!
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Typically 6000++, I probably ate closer to 7 the last several days though.....it's college football, lol, it makes me eat like an asshole.
 
BiggT said:
Typically 6000++, I probably ate closer to 7 the last several days though.....it's college football, lol, it makes me eat like an asshole.
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What is a typical days menu look like?
 
I don't count cals or macros or anything, here is what I'd typically eat in a day...again it varies, sometimes I have another meal, sometimes I eat more fish or chicken......sometimes I go out to lunch and get sushi, sometimes I'll get 2 double hamburgers from Wendy's w/ fries....if I do that, I skip the dessert at night...

5 egg (whole eggs) omlette with Ham
Several slices of bacon, lean and extra crisp, lol
2 slices whole wheat toast
2 servings of oatmeal
1 quart of milk

PB and J sandwich
1 Quart of milk

1 pound of lean beef
1 packet of instant rice, sometimes 2
salad
water

preworkout
2 Power Bars
1 banana
1 tablespoon of PB
water

postworkout
50g whey w/ 2 cups milk

an hour after shake
1lb lean beef
2 baked potatoes w/ butter, sour cream, and bacon bits
brussels sprouts w/ butter
1 quart of milk
a small blizzard from Dairy Queen, lol....sometimes I have a rice krispie treat or a doughnut......if I don't do this, I just can't get in the damn calories

tuna sandwich
pb and j sandwich

*all salads have full fat dressing, baked potatoes have the works on them, etc etc....

go to bed
 
BiggT said:
I don't count cals or macros or anything, here is what I'd typically eat in a day...again it varies, sometimes I have another meal, sometimes I eat more fish or chicken......sometimes I go out to lunch and get sushi, sometimes I'll get 2 double hamburgers from Wendy's w/ fries....if I do that, I skip the dessert at night...

5 egg (whole eggs) omlette with Ham
Several slices of bacon, lean and extra crisp, lol
2 slices whole wheat toast
2 servings of oatmeal
1 quart of milk

PB and J sandwich
1 Quart of milk

1 pound of lean beef
1 packet of instant rice, sometimes 2
salad
water

preworkout
2 Power Bars
1 banana
1 tablespoon of PB
water

postworkout
50g whey w/ 2 cups milk

an hour after shake
1lb lean beef
2 baked potatoes w/ butter, sour cream, and bacon bits
brussels sprouts w/ butter
1 quart of milk
a small blizzard from Dairy Queen, lol....sometimes I have a rice krispie treat or a doughnut......if I don't do this, I just can't get in the damn calories

tuna sandwich
pb and j sandwich

*all salads have full fat dressing, baked potatoes have the works on them, etc etc....

go to bed
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Oh man, u are a growing boy..haha! This looks like one weeks menu for me...less all that milk, dairy is no good for the body (IMO)!
I want a doughnut right now!
 
BiggT said:
Milk bad for you?? no way, lol.....A gallon a day keeps the smallness away.
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My theory, milk is for babies and no other animal on the planet drinks milk, but the human animal. Once we are weened as babies, our bodies do not need it. Dairy keeps mucus in the body. mucus in turn allows virus's to live and breed.
Also, I was told this by gasto dr's and homeopaths, the human gut is lactose intolerant b/c as we grow, we lose the enzyme to break down lactose.
I used to feel unwell when I took any dairy hence my findings. Just food for thought.
 
BiggT said:
a small blizzard from Dairy Queen, lol....sometimes I have a rice krispie treat or a doughnut......if I don't do this, I just can't get in the damn calories
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having trouble eating or something? ;)

blueta2... yea, alot of folks are lactose intolerant but i'm not sure that everyone's entirely that way... maybe some of us will be that way when we are much older... lucky us i guess :)
 
Fortunately milk causes no stomach issues for me....I know it is very common for people to be lactose intolerant to varying degrees.....knock on wood, milk agrees with me for now at least.
 
Awesome Olympic lifting day yesterday :garza:

The only perceived drawback for me... from realizeing i'm lactose intolerant is the price of Lactaid milk. Oh... and making sure if I'm going to have ...let's say alfredo sauce or something cheesy like that (which I LOVE) that i'll be outside shortly thereafter to break wind, lol... I have no shame, I just like being curtious.
 
It's those incline that impress me... you can't do any of the squirming, arching, belly bouncing tricks with the incline that you can get away with on the flat
 
BiggT said:
Typically 6000++, I probably ate closer to 7 the last several days though.....it's college football, lol, it makes me eat like an asshole.
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All Mexican food & ice cream, right? ;)

7000 calories is close to what I eat in 4 or 5 days. I think my stomach hurts just thinking about it....
 
blueta2 said:
My theory, milk is for babies and no other animal on the planet drinks milk, but the human animal. Once we are weened as babies, our bodies do not need it.
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No other animal drinks lemonade either.

BiggT: that sample preworkout meal seems awfully tiny. Two c. milk and a few scoops of whey? Damn.
 
Protobuilder said:
No other animal drinks lemonade either.

BiggT: that sample preworkout meal seems awfully tiny. Two c. milk and a few scoops of whey? Damn.
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No, pre workout is 2 power bars......the whey shake is right when I get done lifting, then I have a big meal within an hour or so of that....sometimes I just go right for the meal, but if it is heavy squats and pulls, sometimes I'm too sick to eat for a good hour.

I have gotten to like fuel an 'endurance athlete' would use preworkout because they keep me feeling stable the whole time, I'll have 2 power bars....or waffles w/ PB and honey and fig newtons......stuff like that
 
i can't believe how much milk u drink, i got a roommate who swears by it too...id be doing HIIT sprints to the shitter if I drank as much milk as you ha
 
WoNderWoMan25 said:
All Mexican food & ice cream, right? ;)

7000 calories is close to what I eat in 4 or 5 days. I think my stomach hurts just thinking about it....
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They both played a HUGE role, lol....
 
If everyone were to identify one foodstuff that we don't need and have it stricken from the global menu, we'd be left with an empty plate and nothing to drink.
 
i am amazed....i cringe at trying to get in 4000 cals.

and those inclines are fawking awesome!!! good workout bro!
 
Wed. 8/20/06

Power Snatch: lots of warm-ups and various overhead squats w/ 45, 135, 185.....then, the work sets......200x2, 205x2, 210x2, 215x2, 220x2, 225x1, 225x1

Front Squat: 135x5, 225x5, 275x5, 310x5x5

Snatch Pull: 225x3, 275x3, 295x3, 305x3, 315x3, 325x3

Decent workout....I was dreading high volume front squats, but after the first 310 set, they were nice and smooth, plus I always dread front squats, so I never look into it much.

Weighed in at 254.....waist is at 36" (in the AM, measuring the waist in the PM while eating 6000-7000 cals a day is foolish imo), so I can't complain one bit, and I will keep piling in the calories for the time being.
 
BiggT said:
Wed. 8/20/06

Power Snatch: lots of warm-ups and various overhead squats w/ 45, 135, 185.....then, the work sets......200x2, 205x2, 210x2, 215x2, 220x2, 225x1, 225x1

Front Squat: 135x5, 225x5, 275x5, 310x5x5

Snatch Pull: 225x3, 275x3, 295x3, 305x3, 315x3, 325x3

Decent workout....I was dreading high volume front squats, but after the first 310 set, they were nice and smooth, plus I always dread front squats, so I never look into it much.

Weighed in at 254.....waist is at 36", so I can't complain one bit, and I will keep piling in the calories for the time being.
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any tips for staying hungry, biggt? do you do any exercise during the day aside from lifting to increase hunger?

also, what are your thoughts for o-lifting on gaining mass vs bodybuilding training? could the average bodybuilder benefit from o-lifts?
 
nice work on the fron squats bro! high volume on squats is prob the thing i dread most!!

keep eating! :RADAR
 
eager2learn said:
any tips for staying hungry, biggt? do you do any exercise during the day aside from lifting to increase hunger?

also, what are your thoughts for o-lifting on gaining mass vs bodybuilding training? could the average bodybuilder benefit from o-lifts?
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I have a 9-5 job, so I don't do anything during the day...what I should do, is get up at 5 and hit the gym for a light circuit of o-lifts and complexes, as I think that is very beneficial for a million reasons.....but to answer your question, I just do my workout somewhere around 5 PM.

For appetite, it is just something to slowly build to, you can't go from 2500 cals to 7000 overnight.....as you build more muscle, the appetite increases too......also, on a more ''bodybuilding'' oriented board, people see 7000 cals and think "GAWD, that's a lot of boiled chicken and egg whites''....the thing is, while I am not a proponent of Dunkin' Doughnuts every day and eating Dorritos by the bag, I am also not a proponent of ''bodybuilding'' foods for anybody who is not on a ''precontest/cutting'' diet.....I eat whole eggs, butter and sour cream on my baked and sweet potatoes, LOTS of red meat, I eat my burgers on a bun, I get mayo on my sandwiches, I have no problem getting steak fries at dinner, I eat mashed potatoes, I don't think dairy is the devil, and I drink a gallon of milk a day, and this helps greatly.....so, by eating calorically dense, GOOD TASTING foods, it is easier for me to eat loads of calories than it is for the guy trying to choke back puke as he crams down 72 egg whites a day.

I think what most people commonly think of as ''bodybuilding'' training is terrible for everything from hypertrophy to strength to function......for hypertrophy, imo, nothing can compare to squats, deadlifts, free-weight rowing, bench/incline/overhead pressing, and jump shrugs, AND eliminating useless crap from the routine so it can be more focused on getting good at those things.

I think olympic lifting can stimulate hypertrophy when done with enough weight (meaning you'd need to have experience with the lifts), it is especially good for guys (and girls) who finish their pulls at full extension with an explosive snap of the traps......I think, say, a guy who deadlifts 650lbs wouldn't get any hypertrophy from first learning how to power clean with 135....BUT, things he can immediately do with big loads like clean pulls and jump shrugs would serve very well.

I love the olympic lifts, and I always have......I cannot lie, hypertrophy is important to me, I do the olympic lifts and their variants because I have been doing them since I was a kid, I love them, and I always will.....I think in the iron game, Oly lifting is the ULTIMATE....if you can clean a barbell, you can do any exercise under the sun........However, I am inclined to think that the bulk of my hypertrophy comes from all the squatting, and the upper body pressing, as well as heavy jump shrugs and deadlifts....the oly lifting helps add frequency and workload though, I must say.

Mostly, for me, the olympic lifts are kind of a love/pride thing.....they're certainly not necessary for bodybuilders.....although I think jump shrugs should be mandatory for everyone, and ATF squatting for hypertrophy couldn't hurt the bodybuilder either.....also the mental toughness and mindset would help a BB, and most BB's (especially the ones trying to get big who are either natural or using more moderate drug doses) could stand to learn that all the iso fluff wouldn't be missed if they cut it out and concentrated on what counts.

That was long-winded......but I am very opinionated on the subject, and since you're 'eager2learn' lol, I thought I'd share.....plus it's my journal, so I'll post what I want, lol
 
BiggT said:
That was long-winded......but I am very opinionated on the subject, and since you're 'eager2learn' lol, I thought I'd share.....plus it's my journal, so I'll post what I want, lol
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lol, thanks for that. it was informative; 'specially the part on the diet and getting in the calories.

in my gym we have two large seperate sections. one for the o-lifters, and one for the bodybuilders. i see young teens come through here and reguarly squat 300+ lbs and do jerks with 200 + lbs, then I see large bodybuilders in the other room having trouble doing a full olympic squat with just 135 pounds, so i can't help but wonder how effective bodybuilding training is. then again they might not be the best examples of effective bb'ing training, but i can't help but judge them.

i also notice a subtle difference in overall physique of the larger o-lifters vs the larger bodybuilders. i just can't put my finger on it though.
 
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