**JUICE E2 STYLE OR TAKE IT EASY??**2thick,lawnsaver and everyone else come.....

[TxLonghorn]

Ultra, I don't know if 100mg of dbol is safe, I know for me, 30mg is not safe: nosebleeds, symptoms of high blood pressure, etc. But, look at the pictures of retabolil2, he says he took ~150mg/day of dbol.

I too am curious about the endoscreen thingy.

 

[Growing Pains]

I know some of the mods and vets know where to get it done , guys like E2, Ulter etc.

 

[ultragainz]

ooooh ok

 

[LCBUTLER]

So you talk up the "Endoscreen" and then don't explain where we can have it done.

If it is so great why can't you give us any more info??

 

[LCBUTLER]

Endoscreen?

Could it be this??

 

[lawnsaver]

Although E2 is very knowledgable, I dont agree with his metality on doses. I believe you can make soild gains with half the doses he recomends. I dont think I will ever take over 1500mg a week of combined gear. I think you are asking for problems. With E2 doses he probably gains 30+ lbs. With my dose I will gain 20+lbs and feel much better about what I'm doing to my body. I strongly believe in moderation.

 

[panerai]

" Whatever makes you happy.. "
If you follow E2's suggestions right from the beggining, when he was recomending "Captaine Insane-O" cycles, you will see that he has pretty much healthy approche, he doesn't advocate using 2g of Test a week to anybody, but if one reaches the point when he keeps making solid progress on such a dosage, he knows it, he doesn't need suggestions.
His cycles for newbies are very reasonable, 500-750mg of Test, 40mg of dbol, some Fina, etc...
If you take average newbie and compare side effects of those cycles vs. gains, you will see that those making a way more sense then 2Thick's 200mg/week of Deca( could stay natural as well, and use just creatine,lol)
If person decide to use steroids, he may try to get most out of it, as well, with minimum side effects of course.
And E2's suggestions are not alarmingly dangerous, he doesn't suggest using up to 500mg of Anadrol a day, like MeanOne did, or using Halo if there's no need for it. Testosteron is very safe and has easy to control side effects, it's absolutely not toxic to liver or kidney, positively effect CNS,etc,etc...
Well, I can go on and on, and on, but the bottom line is, that everyone should follow what he thinks is better for him.

 

[MadCow1]

My opinions are below:

- for novices or infrequent users (1-2 cycles per year) I would recommend 2Thick's approach. People have been getting great results of a single drug or even 2 in a stack for years at dosages comparable to 15-25mg of dbol or 200-400mg of Deca/Equ. Makes me sick to see first cycles with all kinds of shit listed. Hell, I could still make great gains off one of these cycles.

- the normal cycles should be for someone who's done a fair amount before. I don't think anyone on their first 3 cycles should be taking 3 drugs at 1 gram per week unless it's already been proven that their receptors are the worst.

- E3's dosages are for career roiders. They are fully committed to drugs and only come off to go back after waiting the minimum period.

 

[Hugh Gellatts]

For me the E2 approach to test is a catch 22. When I run high-dose test I have to use proscar or else I lose hair like crazy. The thing is that the test seems alot less effective when used with proscar.

Maybe when I give up on keeping my hair I'll give the high-dose test thing another try.

BTW I have used E2 levels with tren, and really liked it (also kept all my hair).

 

[ajc]

I think lot of uninformed bros think that more juice will make up for their inconsistent diet and/or not-so-good habits (drinking every weekend, etc.). On the flip side, I think the longer you've been using the more you need to get the same effects.

I knew a guy who was 5'9" 245lbs at about 12% bodyfat who got that way by eating like a fucking bear and training his ass off... and on his heaviest cycle, he only took 250mg Sustanon every 5 days and 200mg EQ every 7.

I don't know if I could grow like that or not on those doses, but I have never been able to choke down 8,000 calories per day either...Now that I think about it, it would be pretty hard not to grow like a weed (maybe more fat) naturally on that diet.