**JUICE E2 STYLE OR TAKE IT EASY??**2thick,lawnsaver and everyone else come.....

[ultragainz]

ok iam not ripping on no one here that juices easy or hard...so what do you guys think juice the way E2 says and there is notthing wrong with that or just take it easy...much love to E2's cycles and much love to the people that juice easy but i see on that post where this guy was talking about his second cycle...where E2 said its low ya it was a little too low.....ok here is a example noramal cycle and E2 style cycle.....just tell me what you guys think like 2thick and all of the other guys that dont juice hard(E2 style).....just want to here your side....say what ever is on your mind about hard juiceing or easy juiceing.....see here is what iam saying i have seen people grow very good on easy cycle like normal amount takin..so should you just stick with the normal amount or take it all the way or almost all the way...and i see people here that make a hard cycle and a lot of people tell them not to juice hard just stick with the normal dose, or a little higher then the normal dose....some people might say that they grow off normal amount so why tkae more what do you guys think that juice hard?..

NORMAL CYCLE........
normal amount that some people take
WKS-----D-BOL-----------TEST-----deca-------fina
1----------30/40mgs------600mgs---300/400---------
2----------30/40-------------600--------300/400----------
3----------30/40-------------600-------300/400----------
4----------30/40------------600--------300/400----------
5----------30/40-----------600---------300/400----------
6----------30/40-----------600---------300/400----------
7----------------------------600----------300/400-----------
8---------------------------400----------300/400------1cceod
9---------------------------400----------300/400-------1cceod
10----------------------------------------300/400-------1cceod
11----------------------------------------300/400------1cceod
12---------------------------------------300/400------1cceod


E2 STYLE........
high amount that some people take.....

WKS---D-BOL-------TEST------------deca----FINA
1------75/100mgs----2000/1500-----600---------
2------75/100----------2000/1500-----600----------
3------75/100---------2000/1500-----600----------
4-----75/100----------2000/1500-----600--------
5----75/75-------------1750/1500-----600--------
6----65/75-------------1750/1500-----600--------
7----50/50-------------1750/1250-----600----2cceod
8-------------------------1500/1250----600-----2cceod
9------------------------1000/1000----600------2cceod
10-----------------------750/750-------600-----2cceod
11-----------------------------------------600----2cceod
12-------------------------------------------------2cceod



NORMAL AMOUNT OF JUICE PEOPLE TAKE
primo--200-400mgs
deca---200-400mgs
anavar--25-50mgs
d-bol-25-50mgs
test(250mgs =cc)-500-1000
test(100-200mgs=cc)-400-800
anadrol-25-100mgs
halo-20-40mgs
eq-200-400mgs


HARDCORE STYLE(some of the amount of juice here might be more takin by some people)
primo--400-600mgs
deca---400-800mgs
anavar--50-100mgs
d-bol--45-100mgs
test(250mgs =cc)-750-2000mgs
test(100-200mgs=cc)-600-1600mgs
anadrol--50-200mgs-------- or more
halo-35-50mgs ---------------or more
eq-600-1000------------------or more

 

[TxLonghorn]

Well, the answer for me is somewhere in between. I think that is the problem with most people is that they don't understand that this is not a math problem. You can't say if you take 400mg/week of eq you will gain 12.3 pounds. It just doesn't work that way, and that throws people. I think if these people took a look at what others do, start off with moderate doses, they will have a good idea of what will happen with their own body.

Take Fonz for example. He is an oxandrolone non-responder. However, this is not a big deal, because he has the ability to think, and he does other things that get him the results he wants.

Oh, you got something wrong about the E2 cycle. E2 shoots fina EVERY day, not every other day.

 

[MikeyLikesJuice]

75/100mg of d-bol, lol

 

[ultragainz]

thats not E2's cycle just a example of his cycle

 

[LCBUTLER]

I think I would classify as "HIGH NORMAL". I might be crossing the line on my next cycle.

I have been increasing doses each cycle, I will do this until I see diminished returns. So far for me more is better.

LC

 

[Growing Pains]

When I began AS a little more then a year ago, I went to an MD (who had competed in Ms. Olympia about 20 years ago). She put me on testo and HGH. I was glad I went to an MD first, because she did lots of tests before during and after to see what I needed and how it was going.

I paid for it myself and it got very pricey ($150 office visits every other week along with lab tests). Now I am taking 1 gram a week of testo and a few other things. I am now getting tests done with Endoscreen. I sound like a broken record about Endoscreen right now because I am exited. Can't say enough good things about it. My first lab evaluation with endoscreen proved that although I was taking Arimidex 3 times a week, it wasn't enough - my estrogen was still a little bit high (estrogen can causes cancer and gyno - I don't want that). And although I was taking Saw Palmetto twice a day, it was not near enough as my DHT was off the chart. So I upped the Arimi by adding 1/2 mg on two other days of the week - which helped. And I also took some other measures to bring my DHT down (as I want to keep my hairline and not have the biggest prostate around).

My point? NO...I repeat, NO cycle is safe without testing to see : 1) where you are starting 2) how it is going 2) how you recover after the cycle is over. I am just thankful for Endoscreen because it allows me to get tested much less expensively then a standard lab blood test, I do not have to go see the doctor unless I want to, and I can do it whenever I want in privacy.

But when you ask questions like this, it is the exact same as calling someone on the phone and asking "I am driving in my car. Which way should I go?". Because unless you tell the other person on the phone Where you are right now, which way you are going, and where you want to go - how can they give you directions? To really know what to advise its important to know : where you are when you start (ex. do you have too much natural estro?That would tell us how much Arimi or Nolva to recommend), how it is progressing (did your testo levels raise enough after taking AS or do you need more AS?), and after the cycle (have you recovered? read all the posts of guys who spend alot of time and money getting big and then lose it after the cycle. An endoscreen test will show you if you need more clomid to keep your gains). Endoscreen is like having a road map to get you to your destination - it shows you where you are, how it is progressing and when you are "done". To try and go ona long precarious journey without a road map is dangerous whether you use big or small doses.

But if you are getting lab tests done - E2 doses are entirely safe. if you don't - then 2thick doses might cause you to lose your prostate (due to surgery) or your hairline.

Be safe - get tested. I know E2 is familiar with this testing.

 

[ultragainz]

so around 100mgs of d-bol is safe?

 

[ultragainz]

where do you get this Endoscreen done at?..i never heard of it.....

 

[Growing Pains]

I can't believe you just asked that

Dude...are you reading these posts? NOBODY can just give you a cookbook answer if 100 mg of D-bol is safe. It depends on the person and their "biochemical individuality". Its okay for one person and real bad for another. 25 mg of D bol a day really f*** up my liver.

Be safe - get tested at a lab.

If you want a cookbook pull it out of your ass answer then get one of those magic 8 balls that you ask questions to, and then turn over to see the answer : "signs point to yes", "Maybe" "ask again".

 

[ultragainz]

so Endoscreen tell you how much juice to take?