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John Cena benches 405lbs for 8 reps... surely he can't be natural can he?

How come these threads keep popping up about professional wrestlers and juice? Just like it's no suprise that the fighting in wrestling isn't "real," it shouldn't be a suprise that the majority of guys in entertainment who are shown without a shirt are on some type of anabolic steroid or growth hormone or a combo.

He trains hard so good for him.
 
because fans and Cena himself claims to be natural which is very misleading on people who want to build muscles naturally. This doesn't mean I don't respect him because personally I am 99% certain he does take AAS and only gets away with it because he is a star...
 
The thing that always gets me is they never peak and hit down times. They always look hard and jacked. Us normal guys we peak throughout the year. Not guys like batista and cena. The only reason cena is a tad smaller now is cause of injury.
 
The thing that always gets me is they never peak and hit down times. They always look hard and jacked. Us normal guys we peak throughout the year. Not guys like batista and cena. The only reason cena is a tad smaller now is cause of injury.

It's because they never come in super shredded like a contest, yet they never get big and put on fat in the off-season like we do. I think a lot of this is attributed to constant year round dieting, training, and gear/GH. They need to look the same year round since they need to show their physiques all year long.

And I am not upset with him because he says he is all natural. If he said "yeah I take GH, test, and hit tren here and there" what would happen to him? Career gone and probably thrown in jail. Just like if someone asked you if you are juicing. You're gonna say no. That doesn't mean you are a cheat or you shouldn't be respected. You just need to cover yourself due to the legal nature and the cultural taboo assocciated with AAS.
 
it's because they never come in super shredded like a contest, yet they never get big and put on fat in the off-season like we do. I think a lot of this is attributed to constant year round dieting, training, and gear/gh. They need to look the same year round since they need to show their physiques all year long.

And i am not upset with him because he says he is all natural. If he said "yeah i take gh, test, and hit tren here and there" what would happen to him? Career gone and probably thrown in jail. Just like if someone asked you if you are juicing. You're gonna say no. That doesn't mean you are a cheat or you shouldn't be respected. You just need to cover yourself due to the legal nature and the cultural taboo assocciated with aas.

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It's because they never come in super shredded like a contest, yet they never get big and put on fat in the off-season like we do. I think a lot of this is attributed to constant year round dieting, training, and gear/GH. They need to look the same year round since they need to show their physiques all year long.

And I am not upset with him because he says he is all natural. If he said "yeah I take GH, test, and hit tren here and there" what would happen to him? Career gone and probably thrown in jail. Just like if someone asked you if you are juicing. You're gonna say no. That doesn't mean you are a cheat or you shouldn't be respected. You just need to cover yourself due to the legal nature and the cultural taboo assocciated with AAS.

very good points.. I would definately think deca would be in their diet. If you live in USA you cannot openly admit to steroid use though I recall Kevin Nash admitting to steroid use on cnn.com but maybe he had a doctors prescription for it. I guess that is the only safe (legal way) of admitting to steroid use.

Makes me wonder why women are allowed to have breast implants for cosmetic reasons yet us guys are not allowed to use AAS for cosmetic purposes.
 
because fans and Cena himself claims to be natural which is very misleading on people who want to build muscles naturally. This doesn't mean I don't respect him because personally I am 99% certain he does take AAS and only gets away with it because he is a star...

Have you ever heard a current pro bodybuilder say he uses steroids? NO, he will never admit to it until he retires. They will lose sponsors and thats how their money comes from. same with wrestlers, they never say they are on steroids, but they never denied it. john cena stated in an interview that, "i cant tell you that i havent, but youll never be able to prove that i have" he says hes been pasing drug tests since he was 17 and has passed every single one.

its not cheating when everyone does it. look at chris jericho, he used to be a skinny punk. now hes thick and got abs, same with benoit. look at benoit before he died and then look at his first pic when he was in WCW. if you dont take it, you will not stand a chance against all the other superstars in wwe
 
is this guy for real?

everyone and their mothers is on steroids what's wrng with you? get with the program
 
are u asking b/c of the weight and reps? if so, i know of two guys completely natural, they don't even think about protein/diet/supps..just moving heavy weight. They both do 405 10+ reps
 
Cena used to be a competetive BB'r. I have seen very brief footage of him onstage. As far as the weights, yes natural guys can certainly reach these weights. The look and size Cena has? No you cannot get that look without AAS. That should have been an obvious tip off.
Same as asking if Bill Goldberg, Dave Batista, or The Rock use.
 
Everything I was saying was about his physique, not his lifting strength.

Yeah, he looks big and ripped. Not super shredded and not monstrously huge. But probably the physique that is just the right amount of mass and low bodyfat without looking like a total freak. Hopefully after my winter bulk and summer cutting phase I will have a similiar physique (but more vascularity and striations). Remember that he has been training, dieting, and using supplements/gear for many years to achieve that look. He's also got pretty good genetics. It's not a look that is unrealistic though so if you want to look like that, I'm sure with determination it won't be that hard.
 
Thank you!

Those are great numbers for high school powerlifters.

And since when is NOT using straps a sign of toughness?

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less than 1% of all male gym members who consistently train could lift 545lbs off the ground without straps and hit 10 reps with perfect form.. he hits 550lbs deep squats without a weight belt. Less than 0.01% of all male weight lifters look as good as John Cena..

I don't mean to hype him up (he is the highest paid wrestler in WWE for reason) but it seems like noone on here is giving him any kind of respect at all... he lifts more than all the top natural bodybuilders in Australia without any problems.

Don't tell me John Cena isn't tough.. he is as hard as nails.
 
less than 1% of all male gym members who consistently train could lift 545lbs off the ground without straps and hit 10 reps with perfect form.. he hits 550lbs deep squats without a weight belt. Less than 0.01% of all male weight lifters look as good as John Cena..

I don't mean to hype him up (he is the highest paid wrestler in WWE for reason) but it seems like noone on here is giving him any kind of respect at all... he lifts more than all the top natural bodybuilders in Australia without any problems.

Don't tell me John Cena isn't tough.. he is as hard as nails.

I have no idea where you get your numbers about who can lift what, but I would love for you to post them.

ANd I didn't say he wasn't tough, I just said that NOT using straps is not a measure of toughness.

And he gets the same respect any actor gets.

And just to put this into perspective for you even further, I am nearly 60 and I can pull 545x10 on a 2" axel bar without straps or even knurling on the bar.

All I'm saying, is be careful what company you put him into, and be careful of the numbers you throw around. He may look real good, and put on a good show, but his buckets have a long way to go to hold much water in the strength world or outside Vince McMahon's ring.

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The thing that always gets me is they never peak and hit down times. They always look hard and jacked. Us normal guys we peak throughout the year. Not guys like batista and cena. The only reason cena is a tad smaller now is cause of injury.
Thats whats even more amazing about. Think about the grueling schedule they have on the road most of the yr and every night putting on a show,which is physical as hell if its real or not and not many of us could do what these freaks do. Then to find the time and determination to train,recover and supplement/eat, didnt mean to blow these guys and I rarely watch wrestling,but I give credit where its due.
 
Thats whats even more amazing about. Think about the grueling schedule they have on the road most of the yr and every night putting on a show,which is physical as hell if its real or not and not many of us could do what these freaks do. Then to find the time and determination to train,recover and supplement/eat, didnt mean to blow these guys and I rarely watch wrestling,but I give credit where its due.

thanks bro.. I admire the top WWE performers a lot for their hard work and dedication towards pleasing the fans. John Cena is in a position in life which most bodybuilders (and sane guys) would kill to be in... he has his foot in hollywood, main event contender in WWE, well respected among the media (except cnn), thousands of fans, bloody awesome physique, and a lot of attention from the women I believe!!!

in conclusion his work ethic should be modelled if you waat to get anywhere in life
 
The look and size Cena has? No you cannot get that look without AAS. That should have been an obvious tip off.
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i'd have to disagree....i'd say by the looks of his shoulder girdle he's natural...usually juicers have a look in this area due to the amount of receptors. being big and somewhat cut isn't instand give away.
 
Its part of the job title. Who cares if hes constantly ramming it in him???? he trains harder than most people on here and has to do it on the road and after getting his ass kicked in the ring, regardless if the sport is fake or not, they take a kicking a few times a week.
 
It's because they never come in super shredded like a contest, yet they never get big and put on fat in the off-season like we do. I think a lot of this is attributed to constant year round dieting, training, and gear/GH. They need to look the same year round since they need to show their physiques all year long.

And I am not upset with him because he says he is all natural. If he said "yeah I take GH, test, and hit tren here and there" what would happen to him? Career gone and probably thrown in jail. Just like if someone asked you if you are juicing. You're gonna say no. That doesn't mean you are a cheat or you shouldn't be respected. You just need to cover yourself due to the legal nature and the cultural taboo assocciated with AAS.

True that.
 
Cena was a bodybuilder. Cannot believe people are debating if he uses steroids or not. His physique (like BBers) is his job...would the wwe pay him that much if he was 140lbs skin n bone or 500lb of fat???? No!! he looks like an action figure and is marketed like one....he is what young kids admire and many of the people on here aspire to be. The guy is huge, i have seen him in person and those arms are not natural. Again, its part of the job and all the biggest names in wrestling need to be larger than life, it goes with the territory.

Seriously do you think you could maintain a physique like the top guys do living the lifestyle they do??? Looks glamerous from the outside but travelling, public appereances, contantly being banged up and shows take their toll. Try training like a bodybuilder and eating clean around that. WHen guys like egde, mr kennedy, kevin nash etc have all admitted steroid use how do you think batista, cena, scott steiner etc stay so jacked year round???

Take nothing away from cena, or any other pro wrestler for that matter. The guy is very tough and from the video, trains hard.
 
My question would be ... not that they juice or not - who cares?, but what is it that lets them stay big and strong year round and not get the evil sides like hair loss. Except ... now that I think about it ... isn't Cena and Bastista and Orton getting a little shiney? Primo maybe?
 
Cena is a pimp. I don't follow professional wrestling like I did as a kid, but I respect that guy. Worked his ass off to get there.

I think that's why he's the highest paid pro wrestler. It's the authenticity. It's like if you met him and started talkin shit he'd kick your face in kind of authenticity.

On the flip side he's all about his business so if you aren't fuckin with him he isn't fuckin with you.

Least that's the vibe I get.

And ya, he's definitely on roids. Not too many people could look like that.

There are natural powerlifters that can put up as good or better numbers than Cena, but there are extremely few that also are as heavily muscled as that with as low bodyfat. He's pretty damn lean despite initial appearances.

I have known a handful of absolute genetic super freaks and even then the one that had the best bodybuilding specific genetics of them all probably couldn't get that big and lean and at the same time stay natural.
 
I cant believe this thread is still around. The origional question is ridiculous. Its ridiculous that people are naive enough to think you can look like john cena and triple h, batista, ect. Naturally.
People have been conditioned to expect wrestlers to look a certain way. Especially nowadays. They are all heavily muscled. Some alot more than others. You see them all together alot and you dont think anything of it. But when you get one on their own out in the real world around everyday people then you see how big they really are.
 
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