JKurz's Log "Mirrors are all hidden"!

[SgtSlaughter]

Classic Triple w Cheese, Baked Potato, 2 tall glasses of milk taken from the company refrigerator. (To be used ONLY in coffee) Fuck'em.

STFU!!!!

LOL!!

NICE bro ... classic triple w/ cheese. No doubt!

What I ate/still eating for "lunch":

1 PB & J : whole grain bread, ANPB, sugar free ras (can't help myself, lol)

about 8 oz. chicken breast: with ketchup on top of course for flavour.

16 oz. whole lactose free milk

... all done.

I'm still hungry

 

[anotherbutters]

Lunch: some kind of mexican bean salad in a tortilla wrap with a banana and a quart of full fat milk, followed 2 hours later by another banana and a quart of semi-skimmed milk. Everyone at work seems to think I'm obsessed with milk.

 

[JKurz1]

See, thats the difference between this board and me...my goal is to build a bodybuilding physique....looking at your diets and training....you guys are more concerned with strength...which is cool, best of both worlds, but that's where I get my crazy nutritional habits.....measuring shit and weighing shit......are any of you under 10%? I know u dont care, just curious...

 

[SgtSlaughter]

See, thats the difference between this board and me...my goal is to build a bodybuilding physique....looking at your diets and training....you guys are more concerned with strength...which is cool, best of both worlds, but that's where I get my crazy nutritional habits.....measuring shit and weighing shit......are any of you under 10%? I know u dont care, just curious...

I'm 13% @ 201.0lbs ... 6'0"
... started out skinny fat 160 lbs bro.

I never got overly analytical with weighing foods, ect.... i prolly will have to to drop into lower BF %, and that's fine.

My point: I do care. I AM concerned with building a bodybuilding physique. It takes time... can't be overly OCD about everytihng all the time. I'd rather focus on other things in life.

And... most of all I LOVE FOOD

lol

 

[JKurz1]

I'm 13% @ 201.0lbs ... 6'0"
... started out skinny fat 160 lbs bro.

I never got overly analytical with weighing foods, ect.... i prolly will have to to drop into lower BF %, and that's fine.

My point: I do care. I AM concerned with building a bodybuilding physique. It takes time... can't be overly OCD about everytihng all the time. I'd rather focus on other things in life.

And... most of all I LOVE FOOD

lol

right on...for me, its what the weekends are for!! Cant wait til sunday, cept I do love most of my foods during the week....sweet potatoes/yams and rice are whatever, but oats are awesome! Love my pw meal and shake....love my cc and almonds prebed........

 

[alex2678]

Sarge. to Wendy's.

JK, bodybuilding and strength go hand and hand. You CANNOT be huge without having big lifts under your belt. That's not my opinion it's fact. You mentioned before not being concerned with strength. But honestly there is no way you'll ever get bigger if you're not increasing your bench, squat, deadlift and rows. You don't see bodybuilders maxing out on the bench with 225 pounds.

And these so called "clean" diets are so full of shit. Eat more than you burn and you'll gain weight. I don't care if it's from oats and almonds or steak and milk. What your body does with those excess calories is based on your DNA and overall hormone levels. A lot of people on this board train for strength and have physiques that look more like bodybuilders. Just have to realize that more muscle is the result of more weight added to the bar.

 

[SgtSlaughter]

Whatever works for ya bro.

Puttin' down SUPER clean ~ 4,000 cals a day can be tough sometimes.

 

[BiggT]

See, thats the difference between this board and me...my goal is to build a bodybuilding physique....looking at your diets and training....you guys are more concerned with strength...which is cool, best of both worlds, but that's where I get my crazy nutritional habits.....measuring shit and weighing shit......are any of you under 10%? I know u dont care, just curious...

JK...as far as 'bodybuilding'....don't be fooled by the pics in the mags, bodybuilders don't hold that condition year-round....nobody here advised you to get fat and look like mst SHW powerlifters do, but you can't expect to get anywhere staying sub-10% all year long......You should take a trip to Southern Cal where there is a large concentration of Pro BBs and see them stuffing their faces at Taco Bell in the offseason with amounts of garbage I would even think are disgusting, just to get in calories......those guys aren't bulking on boiled chicken and egg whites and the bullshit diets FLEX and Musclemag print off.

I know it may 'look' like it, but when you see a guy who is 270lbs with abs....he dieted down to that condition, he didn't go from 180 with abs to 270 with abs micromanaging every little thing he put in his mouth.....also, this is the hard part for you....calories are calories.....if X amount of excess calories makes you store fat, it doesn't matter if that X amount comes from tuna or from pork rinds.

 

[Protobuilder]

And these so called "clean" diets are so full of shit. Eat more than you burn and you'll gain weight. I don't care if it's from oats and almonds or steak and milk. What your body does with those excess calories is based on your DNA and overall hormone levels. A lot of people on this board train for strength and have physiques that look more like bodybuilders. Just have to realize that more muscle is the result of more weight added to the bar.

Great paragraph. JK -- BB'ing is chock full of myths and circle jerking. Everyone's micromanaging their chromium intake when, in the end, it makes up maybe .0001% of their overall progress. It can be hard to break out of that mentality, but sooner or later you'll hopefully realize that the BB'ing voodoo is just that -- voodoo. That's why guys are raving about how great the gains are on "New! Improved! Supplement XYZ!" when they really have no idea how to track progress. They "feel" great today, and they took Supp. XYZ today, thus they figure they're connected. In 6 months, if they make any progress, it'll be wholly unrelated to Supp. XYZ or their chromium intake. It'll come down to calories in vs. calories out and progressive weight training. The rest is mostly irrelevant, unless you're at contest time and really trying to dial it in.

 

[The Shadow]

See, thats the difference between this board and me...my goal is to build a bodybuilding physique....looking at your diets and training....you guys are more concerned with strength...which is cool, best of both worlds, but that's where I get my crazy nutritional habits.....measuring shit and weighing shit......are any of you under 10%? I know u dont care, just curious...

You *should* be concerned with getting to 210 - then worry about abs.....you cannot carve a pebble


You see my avatar.....this is the fattest I have been in a decade - a year layoff and I'm fairly lean....I was 205 and 7% in that picture - clean - no AI, clen etc....and zero cardio...I was also stong as hell at that weight all things considered.


You can't agrue both sides of the coin.....

you cant say - I want to gain mass


and then say



I want to stay super lean




it does NOT work that way - gear or not.