I've Lost My Mind! Contest Prep Layout!

[Reps For Jesus]

5'7, 210, 10%

1-16 Test E - 750mg/week
1-20 Equipiose - 800mg/week
1-12 Deca - 600mg/week
17-24 Test Prop - 100mg/eod
17-24 Tren Ace - 100mg/eod
17-24 Mast Prop - 200mg/eod
17-24 Anavar - 60-80mg/day
17-24 Proviron - 100mg/day
21-24 Winstrol Depot - 50mg/day
21-24 Halo - 40mg/day

1-12 LGD - 10mg/day
17-24 S-4 - 50-75mg/day
17-24 GW-50 - 20mg/day

1-24 Aromasin - 12.5mg/eod
1-12 Armidex - .5mg/e3d
1-24 Caber - .5mg/e3d

 

[bonacris]

Love it.. i plan on running something similar soon but with lower test

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[EZ_E]

That is a big ass cycle

 

[Reps For Jesus]

I had a big change of heart, got some friends training for a big show and they convinced me to join them. This will be the prep for a big NPC show in May. Want to come in the heavy weight class, 198+ pounds.

 

[Reps For Jesus]

Love it.. i plan on running something similar soon but with lower test

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Should be a grand ol' time! Getting ready for a show?

 

[Reps For Jesus]

That is a big ass cycle

Yes it is, not for the beginner. I usually run something along these lines for contest prep. It's more of 2 cycles combined into one.

 

[Nelson Montana]

When I see dosages like that I'm convinced more than ever that UG shit is way under-dosed.

 

[Reps For Jesus]

When I see dosages like that I'm convinced more than ever that UG shit is way under-dosed.

Test E, Test P, and Deca are all Human Grade

Mast, Tren, and Winstrol are Alpha Pharma

Anavar, Proviron, and Halo are Pharmacom

Equipiose is Geneza

Aromasin, Arimidex, and Caber are from A-G guys

LGD, S-4, and GW are from SARMS1

Sometimes, people need higher doses.. at least there isn't 2100mg a week of tren in there.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Test E, Test P, and Deca are all Human Grade

Mast, Tren, and Winstrol are Alpha Pharma

Anavar, Proviron, and Halo are Pharmacom

Equipiose is Geneza

Aromasin, Arimidex, and Caber are from A-G guys

LGD, S-4, and GW are from SARMS1

Sometimes, people need higher doses.. at least there isn't 2100mg a week of tren in there.

Like I said. : )

As far as people needing more, that may be so but the body can only use so much. You're currently using close to 6000 total mgs. That's about 4 times more than the top 10 in the Olympia. So, either the stuff is underdosed or you aren't responding very well. At any rate, the sides are the same. Your organs blood pressure and lipids don't care that you might "need" more. Just be careful.

I hope your taking all precautions and proper supps.

Any pics?

 

[Reps For Jesus]

4x more than the top 10 in the Olympia? I don't know who your source is for that, but your numbers are a bit off my friend. And this cycle isn't all that extreme if you look closer at it. Pre contest cycles usually have a higher mg average than others because of all the finishing drugs. This isn't 1970 where a little bit of primo and dbol will get you by. Safety isn't much of an issue, I know what I am doing. Thanks for the concern though.

 

[RickRock13]

I don't see anything wrong with the cycle at all for the more advanced user looking to come in at the best condition on stage. I would be running something very similar for prep with some minor changes.

I like the idea of the cycle broken down into two phases aimed at initially adding more size and then following up with the cutting, hardening, and tightening up to the show.

 

[Nelson Montana]

4x more than the top 10 in the Olympia? I don't know who your source is for that, but your numbers are a bit off my friend. And this cycle isn't all that extreme if you look closer at it. Pre contest cycles usually have a higher mg average than others because of all the finishing drugs. This isn't 1970 where a little bit of primo and dbol will get you by. Safety isn't much of an issue, I know what I am doing. Thanks for the concern though.

I'm sorry, I didn't realize you were competing at the professional level. Best of luck.

 

[Reps For Jesus]

I don't see anything wrong with the cycle at all for the more advanced user looking to come in at the best condition on stage. I would be running something very similar for prep with some minor changes.

I like the idea of the cycle broken down into two phases aimed at initially adding more size and then following up with the cutting, hardening, and tightening up to the show.

The stage is addicting, and I just can't stay away! Peer pressure doesn't help either!

 

[Nelson Montana]

I don't see anything wrong with the cycle at all for the more advanced user looking to come in at the best condition on stage. I would be running something very similar for prep with some minor changes.

I like the idea of the cycle broken down into two phases aimed at initially adding more size and then following up with the cutting, hardening, and tightening up to the show.

You don't see anything wrong with 6 grams of gear a week? It depends on what you think is "wrong." He can do whatever he wants. But two facts remain. ONE: There is no way that much gear isn't damaging to the body. If he, or you, don't care, then that's fine. But it is what it is.

And TWO: If you need 6 grams of gear to compete in a little amateur contest maybe competing isn't for you. I did six HUNDRED mgs a week to get into the shape I'm in in my pic. At 59 years old. And the cycle was only 6 weeks long. So, again, I'm curious to see pics. If the guy has the genetics to go all the way, maybe it's worth it./ But no way do I want ANYONE on this forum to think that isn't a potentially dangerous amount of drugs.

And as for my sources, I've been around at this game a long time. I think I know what I'm talking about.

 

[Reps For Jesus]

I'm sorry, I didn't realize you were competing at the professional level. Best of luck.

NPC Junior Nationals

I want to come in the heavyweight class.. which being 5'7 I think would put me in good shape.

My friends that are doing this too are currently running 1500mg of test, 800mg of EQ and Deca, and will be running 600-800mg of tren with 1000+ mg of Masteron. And then there are the orals..

 

[Reps For Jesus]

The max amount of Gear used would be around 3g per week, so I don't see where you are getting 6g from.
I don't plan to compete in a little amateur show. I have competed in many big NPC shows, with many wins and more top 3 finishes.
It's awesome that you competed at age 59, I don't want to take that away from you. But I am doing this for more then a since of accomplishment. My goal is to compete and win.
and for a dangerous amount of drugs? I don't think that is true at all.
I have pictures on this site, look them up if you want to see them.

There's no HGH, no Slin, no peptides.. I don't see how you can say this is dangerous

 

[Nelson Montana]

NPC Junior Nationals

I want to come in the heavyweight class.. which being 5'7 I think would put me in good shape.

My friends that are doing this too are currently running 1500mg of test, 800mg of EQ and Deca, and will be running 600-800mg of tren with 1000+ mg of Masteron. And then there are the orals..

I did the NPC as well. They charge you to compete, treat you like shit and if you place you get a plastic trophy. I have respect for anyone who "goes for it", but it isn't worth getting sick over. I realize you're young and you can't contemplate health issues down the road. I'll just say for now, new livers are really hard to find.

 

[Reps For Jesus]

The liver can repair itself, and I take plenty of support supps and clenses along the way. By no means am I taking it to dangrous levels. Will liver enzymes be elevated a bit? Could blood pressure become an issue? Maybe. But I know how to take care of those things.

You have been around the game for a long time.. but I think you have been out of touch with it for awhile too. This is not 1975.

 

[Nelson Montana]

The liver can repair itself, and I take plenty of support supps and clenses along the way. By no means am I taking it to dangrous levels. Will liver enzymes be elevated a bit? Could blood pressure become an issue? Maybe. But I know how to take care of those things.

You have been around the game for a long time.. but I think you have been out of touch with it for awhile too. This is not 1975.

Yeah, that must be it. I think it's 1975. (Even though I competed in 2013). I guess human body has evolved so much from then that taking 10 times as much drugs is no longer an issue. You're probably right.

 

[Reps For Jesus]

and what place did you finish in?

you are very out of touch with what it takes to compete. Not every one wants to run a tiny cycle so they can feel good about themselves. Some of us actual want to compete

 

[dorian jr]

Nelson Montana bodybuilding is out of control, here in Brazil, there are people doing 8ui GH, insulin, 1g tren, 1,5 test and 1g bold per week for amatuther shows... I am afraid that deaths will occur soon... it is not simple, this drug regiment put so much stress on heart and kidney.

 

[bonacris]

Should be a grand ol' time! Getting ready for a show?

Considering it. Never happy with how I look so never thought i would be competitive. Going to bulk and see where I stand after that so I might only be doing the 1st part of the cycle..

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[Nelson Montana]

and what place did you finish in?

you are very out of touch with what it takes to compete. Not every one wants to run a tiny cycle so they can feel good about themselves. Some of us actual want to compete

Okay, now you're being a douche. Show some respect. Not only to me, but to this board and the sport itself. And to your own body.

Allow me to explain.

First off, I placed but it wouldn't matter is I came in first or 50th. You don't win any money. I did it for the challenge. And what is all that shit you're taking going to get you? A contract with Weider? Modeling gigs? Loads of money? I'm hope you're not that much of a fool to think so.

I did a tiny cycle to feel good about myself? That's ironic. You need to take more shit than Jay Cutler to feel good about yourself and you're pulling this shit on ME?!? I'll excuse your youth and ignorance for that one.

WHo the fuck do you think you are? As far as I'm concerned you're just another meathead who doesn't have the balls to train hard. Your idea of gutsy competitiveness is to shoot your ass full of more juice than the next guy. Me? I'm a bodybuilder. I'm on my 5th decade of it while guys like you have come and gone. Some have died. But damn they were jacked-- right up to when they dropped dead.

I get it. When you're young you're immortal, everybody old is out of touch. Just one thing. I walk the walk dude. I STILL haven't seen any pictures of you -- mister six fucking grams a week. Okay, I'll say it. Anyone who does 6 grams a week is a flying fucking asshole. Anyone who condones it doesn't know what they're talking about.

This isn't an opinion. This is knowledge. I have nothing to gain and nothing to lose if you fuck yourself up. But I am concerned for the people who come here expecting to get information and see idiots talking about taking more gear than guys who look fifty times better than you ever will.

You can do whatever you want. Enjoy that piece of shit trophy you may or may not win (and will cost you thousands of dollars to try and get). But I implore anyone reading this to understand that this is reckless and irresponsible behavior. It isn't bodybuilding. It's vanity shrouded in a fragile ego. It's really fucking stupid is what it is. And I beg of the mods to not treat this like an "advanced cycle" but consider it what it really is -- a desperate attempt to try and be bigger without putting in the effort it takes to do it for real.

Done.

 

[Reps For Jesus]

Actually, what you placed matters a lot. You did it for the sport, which is nice. You were not trying to win, you did the show for a sense of accomplishment, to see if you still had it in you. So your idea of "prepping" for a show is totally different than mine. I actually want to do this for a living, I want to have my own little fitness empire. I have already done modeling gigs, I have a sponsor, and I am looking to do more. So I guess that makes me a fool

Yes, you did a tiny cycle to help get yourself ready for stage. I am doing a big cycle to try to add a good amount of mass to me, and to hold that mass while I cut down and get ready for the stage. That is kind of how contest prep drug protocols work. And I am taking no where near what Cutler takes.. that is laughable that you would even compare what I plan to do, to what he plans to do. Every drug I am running has a purpose.

Thank you for your assumptions about me. Sorry that I am not pretentious like you. I work my ass off everyday. We are both bodybuilders, with different goals. But you've done this for decades.. so that means you right and I am wrong... well according to you anyways. I just want to do more than you.

You want to see pictures of me, look at my old posts.. I have posted them. And I love how you think your opinions are facts. Hilarious! Oh, but you've done this for decades so you're right.

Basically your entire post is one big pissed off rant because you don't like what bodybuilding is now a days. Sorry guys are bigger, stronger, and faster than you ever were. You are very out of touch with how things work now. Very, very, very, out of touch. That, or you are just stubborn and unwilling to accept that primo and dbol won't get you by anymore.

 

[bonacris]

Reps are you going to run a log of this cycle

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[Nelson Montana]

Actually, what you placed matters a lot. You did it for the sport, which is nice. You were not trying to win, you did the show for a sense of accomplishment, to see if you still had it in you. So your idea of "prepping" for a show is totally different than mine. I actually want to do this for a living, I want to have my own little fitness empire. I have already done modeling gigs, I have a sponsor, and I am looking to do more. So I guess that makes me a fool

Yes, you did a tiny cycle to help get yourself ready for stage. I am doing a big cycle to try to add a good amount of mass to me, and to hold that mass while I cut down and get ready for the stage. That is kind of how contest prep drug protocols work. And I am taking no where near what Cutler takes.. that is laughable that you would even compare what I plan to do, to what he plans to do. Every drug I am running has a purpose.

Thank you for your assumptions about me. Sorry that I am not pretentious like you. I work my ass off everyday. We are both bodybuilders, with different goals. But you've done this for decades.. so that means you right and I am wrong... well according to you anyways. I just want to do more than you.

You want to see pictures of me, look at my old posts.. I have posted them. And I love how you think your opinions are facts. Hilarious! Oh, but you've done this for decades so you're right.

Basically your entire post is one big pissed off rant because you don't like what bodybuilding is now a days. Sorry guys are bigger, stronger, and faster than you ever were. You are very out of touch with how things work now. Very, very, very, out of touch. That, or you are just stubborn and unwilling to accept that primo and dbol won't get you by anymore.

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Keep telling yourself that bro. You want to be a pro. Good luck. Do you know how many guys make a living as a bodybuilder? I'd maybe 100 --out of ten million. And do you know how many of them are rich from bodybuilding? None. I know ex Olympians who are struggling to get work as personal trainers. So your plan sounds right on track. : /

You think I'm pissed because I'm not as big as you? That's funny. I never had the desire to be stupidly massive. And I'm 5'11" and you're 5' 7". And at 60 years old I can still date hot women in their 30's so I must have done something right. I'm not pissed -- I'm passionate about this and I want everyone to know that this shit is meant to be taken seriously.

You want to do more than me? How so? By entering more contests? By placing higher? THAT is your goal in life? If so, that's pretty sad.

And sorry, I did a search and still couldn't find the pics.

I don't want this to turn into a pissing contest. Believe it or not, I'm saying what I'm saying as a wake up call. If you don't get it, I hope that others will. Get a life. Grow your mind. See the bigger picture. Or not. Either way, I'm okay with my choices. Get back to me in 10 years and let me know how yours worked out.

 

[stevesmi]

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/photo-shoot-prep-cycle-1271383.html << here is reps pics.. he definately has a lot of potential to go far

and am i reading his cycle wrong? I didn't see 6 grams of gear a week. i counted 2g a week and then it goes up a bit towards the end with the shorter esters. that is still a lot compared to what i have run but its not as crazy as you are making it out to be Nelson.

I agree with nelson in that if you aren't doing this for a living or you plan on competing then you should stick with very low doses and cycle 2 or 3 times a year short cycle tops..but where I disagree with him is if you want to make a living at this even if it doesn't pay much then i have no issue with responsible higher dosages, and reps definately fits that bill.. so i say go for it.

its the 20 year olds who want to take 3 grams of juice and who have been working out a couple years who give this shit a bad name, not guys like reps.

my last cycle I ran some EQ with 200mg a week of tren.. thats it.. it came out to about 700mg a week.. thats not a lot but i really am not a rich guy nor do i like to pin so i keep shit low for a reason.

 

[Nelson Montana]

nd am i reading his cycle wrong? I didn't see 6 grams of gear a week. i counted 2g a week and then it goes up a bit towards the end with the shorter esters. that is still a lot compared to what i have run but its not as crazy as you are making it out to be Nelson.

I agree with nelson in that if you aren't doing this for a living or you plan on competing then you should stick with very low doses and cycle 2 or 3 times a year short cycle tops..but where I disagree with him is if you want to make a living at this even if it doesn't pay much then i have no issue with responsible higher dosages, and reps definately fits that bill.. so i say go for it.

its the 20 year olds who want to take 3 grams of juice and who have been working out a couple years who give this shit a bad name, not guys like reps.

my last cycle I ran some EQ with 200mg a week of tren.. thats it.. it came out to about 700mg a week.. thats not a lot but i really am not a rich guy nor do i like to pin so i keep shit low for a reason.

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He looks good. Great cuts in the legs. Nice high chest. If I were judging I could pick apart what would be a deduction, but that's not the point. I will say, there are guys in the over-50 category who look better. He should place. But that brings me back to the original point...so what? What is won? Can he go pro? Maybe. Can he be the best? No way. And it doesn't change what he's doing to his body.

I re-did the total of the gear. It comes to just under 5 grams with almost another gram in chems. Did you not count the orals? For some people reason think that doesn't count, but 100 mgs of an oral every day is 700 mgs a week. And he's doing more than that, which is actually far more damaging than the injectables. And Halo is the most toxic of all.

So, again, do what you want. I just want to keep it real. And give a warning to newbies that this is more than "advanced". It's nuts.

By the way, since I'm stuck in the 70's, here's an old 70's guy who used a fraction of that amount. I guess he isn't big enough eh? I guess reps for jesus looks SOOO much better? http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl...a=X&ei=vmiXUsmJForloATtz4LQAg&ved=0CEoQ9QEwBg

 

[bonacris]

I love zane but didnt he abuse T3 and is now dependant on it for life

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[Reps For Jesus]

You are misinterpreting how I want to make a living doing this. I don't necessarily want to become a pro, or make money bodybuilding. I want to have my own fitness empire. Like Steve Cook has going, or Greg Plitt. Where people say, "hey, I want to look like him, I wonder how he trains, or what he eats" Then they can go to my website and join and get training and diet tips. I already make a good living as a personal trainer, I am not looking to become "rich". I also am sponsored by an energy drink company, so yes.. I think I am right on track.

There you go, you said it. You have no desire to be massive. So your goals would be different than mine. How you go about achieving them are different. But you think you are above what I plan to do, or what others do. You think you are too good for it, that people are trying to replace hard work and dedication with steroids, which is not true.. at least for me. And I don't really get what you are saying telling me to get a life. Bodybuilding is my life.

And another things, I cycle correctly. You may not agree with the dosages or compounds used, but that doesn't mean it is unhealthy or I will all of a sudden drop dead 10 years from now because of this. I take plenty of supports, I keep an eye on my lipids, and blood pressure. 4 weeks of Halo and Var, even with Tren are not going to kill my liver. So the damage you think I am doing to my body is blown way out of proportion.

And this would obviously fall under the category of a more advanced cycle, by no means would I recommend it to someone who is just starting out. Frank Zane.. now you're talking about heavy test dosages, heavy primo dosage, lots of D-Bol, and even more T-3. I guess he wasn't a big time juicer at all..

 

[Reps For Jesus]

I love zane but didnt he abuse T3 and is now dependant on it for life

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Yes, I am going to log this. Starting my bulking diet on monday, then the gear will start a little bit later.

 

[stevesmi]

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He looks good. Great cuts in the legs. Nice high chest. If I were judging I could pick apart what would be a deduction, but that's not the point. I will say, there are guys in the over-50 category who look better. He should place. But that brings me back to the original point...so what? What is won? Can he go pro? Maybe. Can he be the best? No way. And it doesn't change what he's doing to his body.

I re-did the total of the gear. It comes to just under 5 grams with almost another gram in chems. Did you not count the orals? For some people reason think that doesn't count, but 100 mgs of an oral every day is 700 mgs a week. And he's doing more than that, which is actually far more damaging than the injectables. And Halo is the most toxic of all.

So, again, do what you want. I just want to keep it real. And give a warning to newbies that this is more than "advanced". It's nuts.

By the way, since I'm stuck in the 70's, here's an old 70's guy who used a fraction of that amount. I guess he isn't big enough eh? I guess reps for jesus looks SOOO much better? ]Google Image Result for http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-7ytueI0A0MA/TnxU47CbtsI/AAAAAAAAAEs/EP254c4dH5M/s1600/how-to-pose-frank-zane-best-competition1.jpg

I'm saying the first 17 weeks with EQ, tren and test it came out to exactly 2G. after that the doses go up, i didn't count up how high but since they are short esters and only 5 weeks or so it doesn't seem to be as bad as saying 5 or 6 grams for a full 20 weeks.

I think if he is making a living as a personal trainer and he looks the way he does I have zero issue with him juicing, thats his liveliehood bro. he isn't some 20 year old wannabe still in college trying to figure out how to bang the chick in his biology class. and he is taking bloods and cycling etc. a lot of guys blast and cruise and don't even bother to run bloods, i know this cause we see these guys post on here all the time complaining about sides.. so you gotta give this guy credit for that at the very least and meet him halfway

 

[Reps For Jesus]

I'm saying the first 17 weeks with EQ, tren and test it came out to exactly 2G. after that the doses go up, i didn't count up how high but since they are short esters and only 5 weeks or so it doesn't seem to be as bad as saying 5 or 6 grams for a full 20 weeks.

I think he is blowing it out of proportion a bit. And again, contest prep cycles are known for having higher amounts of gear because you have all the DHT compounds in there.

 

[Nelson Montana]

You are misinterpreting how I want to make a living doing this. I don't necessarily want to become a pro, or make money bodybuilding. I want to have my own fitness empire. Like Steve Cook has going, or Greg Plitt. Where people say, "hey, I want to look like him, I wonder how he trains, or what he eats" Then they can go to my website and join and get training and diet tips. I already make a good living as a personal trainer, I am not looking to become "rich". I also am sponsored by an energy drink company, so yes.. I think I am right on track.

There you go, you said it. You have no desire to be massive. So your goals would be different than mine. How you go about achieving them are different. But you think you are above what I plan to do, or what others do. You think you are too good for it, that people are trying to replace hard work and dedication with steroids, which is not true.. at least for me. And I don't really get what you are saying telling me to get a life. Bodybuilding is my life.

And another things, I cycle correctly. You may not agree with the dosages or compounds used, but that doesn't mean it is unhealthy or I will all of a sudden drop dead 10 years from now because of this. I take plenty of supports, I keep an eye on my lipids, and blood pressure. 4 weeks of Halo and Var, even with Tren are not going to kill my liver. So the damage you think I am doing to my body is blown way out of proportion.

And this would obviously fall under the category of a more advanced cycle, by no means would I recommend it to someone who is just starting out. Frank Zane.. now you're talking about heavy test dosages, heavy primo dosage, lots of D-Bol, and even more T-3. I guess he wasn't a big time juicer at all..

Okay, bro , whatever you say.

 

[RickRock13]

I think he is blowing it out of proportion a bit. And again, contest prep cycles are known for having higher amounts of gear because you have all the DHT compounds in there.

You are exactly right. Running test/Tren/Mast/Winny is a pretty textbook prep cycle for the weeks leading up to a show. Everything in that stack has its purpose to create the best finished product on stage.

I still see no problem with what you are doing. It really doesn't look like that much to me. The harsh compounds like Tren are kept at a reasonable dose while pushing the mild hardening drugs like Masteron. The only thing I would do different (if it were me) is I would leave out the Var and just stick with Winny. Other than that I would run test/mast/Tren basically the same

 

[Reps For Jesus]

might even add a bit of HGH to spice things up a bit.

I want to see how var and winny are stacked together, really the only reason why I am running both. Usually would just stick with winny but maybe this might be better..