is there a way to speed up reflexes?

[teep]

The easy way out

Well, let's look at it like it really is, okay?

You don't compete ergo no data for your training protocols.

You are not a professional who gets paid on performance standards of raising the performance of other athletes (thus your statements have no merit).

You are not part of a gym that regularly produces winners (thus no data to support the gyms techniques--take a look at Kronk Gym for boxing, Mejiru Gym for Muay Thai, Vos Gym for Muay Thai, etc.--but then again you don't compete so you have no data).

This is not my opinion it is fact. There are those that defintely produce results: Louie Simmons in Power Lifting, for example. They do this by their methods that are sequential and scientific.

Eastern Bloc countries were successful with their protocols.

Data is there for those that are successful.

Bruce took a dim view on "Masters of Oriental martial Arts" I share that for the same reasons that he wrote. Those reasons can be found elsewhere so I will not write them here.

Everyone is a champion sitting at home in their safe chair not competing.

Tradition never competes with result driven training.
And there is no "defense" against the facts of data. And in that data is all there is--you either have it or you don't. Either you produce winners or you don't. Either you deal with successful methods or you don't.

 

[Bam]

Re: The easy way out

Well, let's look at it like it really is, okay?

You don't compete ergo no data for your training protocols.
Like I said, I have no need to prove anything.

You are not a professional who gets paid on performance standards of raising the performance of other athletes (thus your statements have no merit).

Your statement that a "non professionals" statements have no merrit is simply ignorant.

You are not part of a gym that regularly produces winners (thus no data to support the gyms techniques--take a look at Kronk Gym for boxing, Mejiru Gym for Muay Thai, Vos Gym for Muay Thai, etc.--but then again you don't compete so you have no data).

My "Data" comes from the worlds most expirenced and well known Martial Arts Masters. They are FAR more credible that a nobody such as yourself.

This is not my opinion it is fact. There are those that defintely produce results: Louie Simmons in Power Lifting, for example. They do this by their methods that are sequential and scientific.

I never said thet training in your methods does not produce results, I did however state that there are other methods that are more effective and are available to everyone regardless of where they train.

Eastern Bloc countries were successful with their protocols.

So are the Masters from all over the world.

Data is there for those that are successful.

Data has nothing to do with success. It is simply "Data". It is there not for a special group of people (this again is ignorant). Data is there because people produced it with some form of study and or expirement.

Bruce took a dim view on "Masters of Oriental martial Arts" I share that for the same reasons that he wrote. Those reasons can be found elsewhere so I will not write them here.

Bruce Lee's was very fast but a few of his students who have far surpassed his training and skills can refute that.

Everyone is a champion sitting at home in their safe chair not competing.

I never claimed to be a "Champion". It has no value to me.

Tradition never competes with result driven training.

Skills and use of natural resources can be a "Tradition" but are also actually an ongoing fact used by many of the worlds most accomplished Masters. Tradition as used by you here is an inaccurate description.

And there is no "defense" against the facts of data. And in that data is all there is--you either have it or you don't. Either you produce winners or you don't. Either you deal with successful methods or you don't.

Data needs no "Defense" Data is simply available information. I am not trying to "Produce winners". I am as I have stated several times simply making a point for those that are interested on the subject.

You seem to have a need to prove your self to the readers of this forum. You speak of all these "Facts and Data" but you offer no real "Facts and Data".
I suspect that since you charge people money for your services (Which is fine) that your initial reason for coming to this forum is not for edification but to sell your business.

And looking at your posts you are new here, with only a few posts to your credit which only strengthens the theory that you are trying desperately to discredit me in an attempt to gain some sort of validation here.

This is silly since I have no need to sell or prove anything. I simply enjoy sharing my ideas with the regular readers here and in a few other forums on the EliteFitness site.

I hope you are sucessfull in your business and continue to grow and learn about the things you are currently missing in your very narrow view of the world.

 

[teep]

Glad you agree

Glad to see that you agree you are aan amateur and I am a professional. Rather be considered in the crowd of a Louie Simmons than someone who can only offer ancedotal information. As for edification--seems like your mind was already made up with the tradition that you have been handed.

Once again thanks for drawing everyone to the fact of your non-professional standing. It helps understand your posting.

 

[Sinar]

Re: Glad you agree

figured i'd put my 2 scence in. ok, i don't really think you can "train" to get your relexes up, its more of a natural thing. for example, i'm not fast at running or anything but one of the few compliments my gym teacher gave me (he hated me for some reason.......have no idea why) is that i had good reflexes. but, there are ways to make yourself better but its hard to do. relexes are really how your body naturally reacts when something unexpected happen. like, i fell of a ladder while i was standing at the top and without thinking, i reached out and grabed a beam and to the hammer in my other hand and grabed the beam with it. so, since it has to be unexpected you can't really increase it by normal means. the best way would probably to be get into fights. not saying pick fights or anything but like get a friend to spar with you or something but have it full out contact. that away you can't really expect where he is punching. also, and this might sound weird, get good with speed reading....litterally, being abel to read fast. i picked up a book one time when i was at the library cause i was bored waiting for my ride and it was a speed reading book. the drills they had you do was look at one word on the paper and tell what the 2 words on each side were. i was surprised that i could actually speed read easy. also, since your at your computer, stare at the screen and without moving your eyes, pick out everything thats on your desk. the reason why i'm saying this is cause you have to be able to see more than what your used to to have good relexes. it works, i know. i was sitting at my computer and it didn't even register that my speaker was falling (small speakers) and my hand just kinda shot out and caught it. i looked at my hand like WTF? and then saw the speaker. perefial vision is important (i am a terrible speller lol. so, thats basically the only ways that i think you can actually improve upon your reflexes. if you want to just look like you got good reflexes, improve your speed. but, thats a whole nother topic.

 

[Bam]

Re: Glad you agree

figured i'd put my 2 scence in. ok, i don't really think you can "train" to get your relexes up, its more of a natural thing. for example, i'm not fast at running or anything but one of the few compliments my gym teacher gave me (he hated me for some reason.......have no idea why) is that i had good reflexes. but, there are ways to make yourself better but its hard to do. relexes are really how your body naturally reacts when something unexpected happen. like, i fell of a ladder while i was standing at the top and without thinking, i reached out and grabed a beam and to the hammer in my other hand and grabed the beam with it. so, since it has to be unexpected you can't really increase it by normal means. the best way would probably to be get into fights. not saying pick fights or anything but like get a friend to spar with you or something but have it full out contact. that away you can't really expect where he is punching. also, and this might sound weird, get good with speed reading....litterally, being abel to read fast. i picked up a book one time when i was at the library cause i was bored waiting for my ride and it was a speed reading book. the drills they had you do was look at one word on the paper and tell what the 2 words on each side were. i was surprised that i could actually speed read easy. also, since your at your computer, stare at the screen and without moving your eyes, pick out everything thats on your desk. the reason why i'm saying this is cause you have to be able to see more than what your used to to have good relexes. it works, i know. i was sitting at my computer and it didn't even register that my speaker was falling (small speakers) and my hand just kinda shot out and caught it. i looked at my hand like WTF? and then saw the speaker. perefial vision is important (i am a terrible speller lol. so, thats basically the only ways that i think you can actually improve upon your reflexes. if you want to just look like you got good reflexes, improve your speed. but, thats a whole nother topic.

Interesting Sinar, If you read my first post in this forum you will see that I mentioned "Energy" that precedes the strike. You speak of "Natural reactions" that are really explained by your sensitivity to the energy surrounding you at all times. This energy warns you of the impending event weather it be an attack or the possibility of hitting the ground during a fall. You also speak of "seeing" things around you and aside from peripheral vision you can sense what is around you at any time using the energy there and therefor "Increase" your reaction or response time to the external event by having an increased awarness.

 

[Roidboyz]

sometimes what u think are fast reflexes, are just the person seeing your shoulder move and being trained to instinctively slip a punch when they know it's coming. So it's kinda more like "technique through repetition" (and you telegraphing your punches) more than the person having inhuman reflexes, although some people do indeed have ridiculous reflexes (like an early Roy Jones, Pernell Whitaker, etc.)

Thank you , Thats exactly what I was trying to say.

 

[teep]

The difference

What you are talking about is perception. What to be keyed into; what is extant and what is not.

All of these skills can be taught. They increase performance a huge amount.

Definiton of the event is the first step in isolating skills to be improved.

 

[Bam]

Re: The difference

What you are talking about is perception. What to be keyed into; what is extant and what is not.

All of these skills can be taught. They increase performance a huge amount.

Definiton of the event is the first step in isolating skills to be improved.

Who are you replying to here?

You did not identify who "YOU" is.

 

[teep]

Re: The difference

Who are you replying to here?

You did not identify who "YOU" is.

Well that would be to KO Artist and Roid who agreed with the statement.

 

[Bam]

Re: The difference

What you are talking about is perception. What to be keyed into; what is extant and what is not.

All of these skills can be taught. They increase performance a huge amount.

Definiton of the event is the first step in isolating skills to be improved.

OK You use the word "Perception" I use the word "Awareness".

The meanings are similar but not quite the same. Perception in this context reflects the act of viewing an action or movement of your oponnent while awarness is the sensing of that movement without actually "seeing" it with your eyes.
I spoke of this earlier using the reference of the 5th degree test with the sword. Using awarness gives the user (the one on the defense) a time advantage over the defender that waits to react until he or she "sees" the movement. Simple but true and has been used for centuries.