is there a way to speed up reflexes?

[Bam]

A simple single or double leg takedown will supercede that law of physics anytime if properly executed. Now tell me, am I wrong?

The person on defense is usually the loser when 2 trained fighters go at it because if you aren't attacking you're generally evading and blocking his energy and are vulnerable to dammage. Now alot of guys say well I will use his motion to throw him, or wait for him to make a mistake or this or that, but in real life that rarely happens, and while you're on the defensive you're getting your ass pummeled to a certain extent.

It's always better to make the first move. Especially if you can misdirect their attention and get a blind shot in first. Once you move you gotta go at it with everything you got.

Technique, experience, speed are all great, but alot of times a fight will end very quickly because one guy is bigger, stronger and more agressive than the other guy.

Technique and speed can win a fight almost instantly, but so can strength and power.

Better yet, how about just not fight, and if you have to fight just poke him in the eye and run. It works.

Not necessarally, It depends on the skill of both parties involved. I would much rather be on the defensive anytime.

You are right about the poke and run tactic in certain cases and of course to fight in any case should be a last resort.

 

[philipusmcr]

Reflexes have some to do with blinking. Blinking slows the average person down quite a bit. To get rid of this I flick my eye lashes and splash water by clapping my hands together into my face. You would be suprised how much easier it is to see things, and how much easier it is to evade a punch or kick if you arent blinking. And like somebody said above, telegraphing can give all of what ur gonna do in advance so he knows what ur gonna do before the punch is even thrown. Although, there are guys out there who can, in our eyes, dodge a frigin bullet. thats genetics.

 

[Tom Treutlein]

I see everyone talking about genetics being key to reflexes, but is this really the case? I mean, perhaps your beginning ability will be hereditary, but can't one train themselves to become more reflexive, just as much so as the next guy?

 

[Bam]

I see everyone talking about genetics being key to reflexes, but is this really the case? I mean, perhaps your beginning ability will be hereditary, but can't one train themselves to become more reflexive, just as much so as the next guy?

Awareness and sensitivity will build greater speed in your actions taken in response to an outside stimulus.

 

[teep]

Mixed talk

As I posted on the other thread you can look there for part of this comment. There are several components to what everyone is lumping into reflex: most of what people are talking about on this thread is about perception. There are specific ways tgo train that. Visual cues and visual tracking skills can be increased and will make incredible differences.

As for the being on defense is better--no it is not. I would say that you have not been with high level opponents (world class and others know) that the first to move is ahead--you have to play try to catch up. Have you tried to catch the dollar bill when it is let go right above your hand? Also when tired the reaction time slows so much that initating wins every time. Have you noticed why Tyson was winning in his early years? or Joe Frazier? Or Rocky Marziano (undefeated btw)?

Training is comples and has to be sequential in its approach. Problem is that too many people try to do what they think is right without any sort of data to support their doing it.

Again research and you can find answers to the specifics--I am just here to let you know that it does exist.

 

[Bam]

Re: Mixed talk

As I posted on the other thread you can look there for part of this comment. There are several components to what everyone is lumping into reflex: most of what people are talking about on this thread is about perception. There are specific ways tgo train that. Visual cues and visual tracking skills can be increased and will make incredible differences.

As for the being on defense is better--no it is not.
Thats your opinion and you are entitled to it.
I would say that you have not been with high level opponents
You have no way of knowing who or what I have trained with.
(world class and others know) that the first to move is ahead
Not true, Again only your opinion.
--you have to play try to catch up. Have you tried to catch the dollar bill when it is let go right above your hand?
This has nothing to do with what I was speaking of. A dollar bill has no energy preceeding it like a human has so that is a completly usless analogy.

Also when tired the reaction time slows so much that initating wins every time. Have you noticed why Tyson was winning in his early years? or Joe Frazier? Or Rocky Marziano (undefeated btw)?

Boxing is not the same as an attack by anyones standards.

Training is comples DID you mean Complex? and has to be sequential in its approach. Absolutly 100% incorrect.
Training is as individual as the people who are doing the training.

Problem is that too many people try to do what they think is right without any sort of data to support their doing it.

You have no data to support that and it is irrelevant to the subject of reflexes.

Again research and you can find answers to the specifics--I am just here to let you know that it does exist.

Thanks for your "letting us know".

 

[teep]

Since you won't tell us that you are a worl champion I think it is safe to say you are not.

Where are you training and with whom? Not answering is not going to help your case.

Sure, post your research data. I can bring a whole load of eastern bloc research to support what I say.

So you discount boxing or the simple fact of reflex speed in the dollar bill--of course that means your idea carries more weight than others.

Support your argument.
As for you personal contention that defense is begtter: Love to hear your record as a professional fighter--since you must be one, right? Vague asnwers aren't going to prove anything.

ON this thread as in athletic training centers for world class and Olympic atheletes (have you gone to one) it seems that you are the only one that thinks that waiting for someone to pull the trigger is better than pulling the trigger (sorry if you think the analogy is not isomorphic).

Dig through the Soviet research to validate in a verifiable non ancedotla manner. Or go talk to any Dutch Kick boxing trainer or the Kronk Gym, etc.

Nice discounting of Rocky Marizzano--avoid it at all costs.

 

[Bam]

Since you won't tell us that you are a worl champion I think it is safe to say you are not.

Where are you training and with whom? Not answering is not going to help your case.

Sure, post your research data. I can bring a whole load of eastern bloc research to support what I say.

So you discount boxing or the simple fact of reflex speed in the dollar bill--of course that means your idea carries more weight than others.

Support your argument.
As for you personal contention that defense is begtter: Love to hear your record as a professional fighter--since you must be one, right? Vague asnwers aren't going to prove anything.

ON this thread as in athletic training centers for world class and Olympic atheletes (have you gone to one) it seems that you are the only one that thinks that waiting for someone to pull the trigger is better than pulling the trigger (sorry if you think the analogy is not isomorphic).

Dig through the Soviet research to validate in a verifiable non ancedotla manner. Or go talk to any Dutch Kick boxing trainer or the Kronk Gym, etc.

Nice discounting of Rocky Marizzano--avoid it at all costs.

I don't need to prove anything. I do not attend or participate in tournaments and never said I did.

If you read the original post carefully you will see that the question did not relate to tournaments or professional sports but used an example of one martial artist demonstrating his ability to defend against an attack from another person.
My whole point is that I agree with the martial artist. I can and have avoided being hit by an attacker including an attack with a knife and I did this while being on the defensive posture.
I am a martial artist and have trained with the highest ranking Sensi outside of Japan in my art. I have also trained with the Grand Master of that art.
The test for 5th degree Black belt in this art is to avoid a sword strike from behind while kneeling in Seiza and with the attack coming silently at an unknown time from the Grand Master himself.
This requires an accute command of awarness skills and the control of timing. This is the whole key to this type of response. I do not believe in ever attacking another for any reason other than self defense including the attempt to prove my skills in a match or tournament. By the way we also train in dis-arming attackers with firearms. This more that any other tequinique requires control of timing.

 

[teep]

Sport

The first post was talking about sport fighting and athletes in various disciplines of it this is why we all continued in this vein.

It is always easy not to compete--I think reading of Bruce Lee will give adequate comment on that subject.

Best gun disarms and best techniques ever were pioneered by two men in the USA--guess what? They used an empirical method to arrive at the techniques.


Under this reflex talk there has been all of the following:

movement speeed
Choice reactoni,
perception,
visual processing
mental selection
visual tracking
afferent to effernt traiining
hard wiring of the nervous system

all of these are specific and individual points to improve the potential that is in each person with their own genetic envelope.

There are sequential methods to improve all of these parts (that is what the Eastern Bloc Sports Scientists did). Not to believe in this is to have never seen the 50 foot shark.

Empricial methods always beat randomn "felt it in my gut" training.

And before any sort of other comment is made--yes, I do get paid to enhance those learning strategies (i,e, visual processing, tracking, afferent to efferent, hardwiring, etc)

The first question to ask is what am I tryhing to improve and why?

From there a professional can design a protocol.

Hope that makes it clearer this time around for you.

 

[Bam]

Re: Sport

The first post was talking about sport fighting and athletes in various disciplines of it this is why we all continued in this vein.

It is always easy not to compete--I think reading of Bruce Lee will give adequate comment on that subject.

Best gun disarms and best techniques ever were pioneered by two men in the USA--guess what? They used an empirical method to arrive at the techniques.


Under this reflex talk there has been all of the following:

movement speeed
Choice reactoni,
perception,
visual processing
mental selection
visual tracking
afferent to effernt traiining
hard wiring of the nervous system

all of these are specific and individual points to improve the potential that is in each person with their own genetic envelope.

There are sequential methods to improve all of these parts (that is what the Eastern Bloc Sports Scientists did). Not to believe in this is to have never seen the 50 foot shark.

Empricial methods always beat randomn "felt it in my gut" training.

And before any sort of other comment is made--yes, I do get paid to enhance those learning strategies (i,e, visual processing, tracking, afferent to efferent, hardwiring, etc)

The first question to ask is what am I tryhing to improve and why?

From there a professional can design a protocol.

Hope that makes it clearer this time around for you.

You may believe as you wish. Your statement "Empiricial methods always beat random feel it in my gut methods" only shows you lack of understanding of the energy involved and the ability of each of us to use this to an advantage. You may have had some successes, but your methods are not the only way to accomplish the goal and are not the answer for many of us Including the worlds best and most accomplished Martial Arts Masters.