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is it possible to be natural on the Olyp stage?

He was actually light there, I think around 190. He got his procard in the 180s or 190s, and put on 30lbs in his first off season after placing horrible in his first pro sho. Fresh receptors and good genetics allowed that.

Doesn't mean he didn't juice to get to 180-190 either. I'm pretty sure Ronnie used more than creatine before that video
 
Doesn't mean he didn't juice to get to 180-190 either. I'm pretty sure Ronnie used more than creatine before that video

That's what I am thinking also, just because someone says they are natural doesn't mean shit. All of Ronnie's videos he says thank god for pure natural strength. He was juicing before anyone knew who he was, unfortunately that's what this sport calls for now.

But Evan you are right about genetics part I'm not taking anything from Ronnie we all could run the same shit as him, the same workout program, and his diet and 90% of us won't even come close to what he looked like.
 
any person I don't care what their weight is who is holding more muscle on their frame then what they can naturally support is on male hormones. its 100% the case. obviously yes it also takes genetics, diet and hard work to get there.

you can run BUN bloods and see it. guys that have too much muscle will come in hot on that number... don't anyone ever tell you otherwise.

PS. i tell people i'm natty too. but those that i run into that have history in fitness know I'm not and give me the wink. its really no ones business that i juice. 1 needle a week doesn't do shit for you if you don't spend hours in the gym a week.
 
How do you know hes natural? He said he was


Well that solves it all I guess
 
How do you know hes natural? He said he was


Well that solves it all I guess

He didnt say he was natural. Im saying he was because he put on 30 pounds of MUSCLE in one off season. Im not talking about how people on here put on "30 pounds" with a cycle. Im saying 30 pounds to his contest weight. It was easy to see how his physique changed from hormones in one off season. If he competed at his prime in the 270s you really think he had to fucking juice to be a not as lean 180?...
 
You guys are missing my point. The point is the best bodybuilder who has stepped foot on the Olympia couldnt place at the Olympia without drugs.
 
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