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Is it possible to alter our children's genetic structure because we lift?

str8cubano

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I have heard many times that if your wife becomes pregnant during a time when you are excersising, and lifting weights, your childern have a chance of having better genetics (muscle wise) as oppose to your average joe who doesn't excersise. Are there any theories on this? Is it possible that steroids can alter the genetic structure of ourselves thus our childern?
 
I think that it is a health issue, studies have shown that healthier men father healthier children. Children that remain healthier and learn better than peers who have parents with unhealthy lifestyles. My opinion is that it doesn't take a lot of brains to be a lazy out of shape slob who smokes 2 packs a day. Children of parents who smoke have lowered learning capacity from birth.
 
as posted by liftsiron
I think that it is a health issue, studies have shown that healthier men father healthier children. Children that remain healthier and learn better than peers who have parents with unhealthy lifestyles. My opinion is that it doesn't take a lot of brains to be a lazy out of shape slob who smokes 2 packs a day. Children of parents who smoke have lowered learning capacity from birth.

Thats a good answer bro.


as posted by str8cubano
I have heard many times that if your wife becomes pregnant during a time when you are excersising, and lifting weights, your childern have a chance of having better genetics (muscle wise) as oppose to your average joe who doesn't excersise. Are there any theories on this? Is it possible that steroids can alter the genetic structure of ourselves thus our childern?

The chances of children with better genetics comes from parents who have a good genetic base in the first place. Because some of your genes (not all) are passed on in the germline, thus your child will receive these genes and they themselves will carry these genetics on to future generations.
Hope I didnt confuse you there.
Exercising and lifting weights during the time your wife is pregnant wont make any differences to your childeren having better genetics, however, as mentioned by liftsiron, healthy parents will father healthy kids. :)

Mini
 
I'm not sure the theory can actually be proven, but from what I have seen I believe it to be true. I know a lot of guys that were nothing special genetics wise and had kids while through their bodybuilding years, now their kids are in their late teens and have great physiques. Could be mere speculation, but much of it is in black and white.
 
From the man's side, yes. Now, a few weight training sessions is not going to do it - but a healthy lifestyle including weight training will.

We constantly make new sperm. Quite simply, the things we do have some degree of influence on our genes.

HOWEVER, the degree of genetic difference we can make through lifestyle is debateable.
 
if steroids have an effect on your sperm structure, than yes, but i am not sure if this is possible... i am almost positive its because of your natural genetics on what your kids look like.. but just raise them healthy, dont let them get fat like everyone else is letting their kids get.. diet has alot to do with how fit your kids will be when they get older
 
you guys (except for mini viper) are retarded. didn't you pay attention in middle school biology class? you can't change your genes by manipulating your body (i.e. working out). for example, if you get really really fat because you stop lifting and eating right, do you think your kid is going to be born fat? no. same way that if you are huge and ripped your kid isn't going to be born that way either. you can change your body, but you can't change your genes.
 
No you can't change your cildren's genes. You cannot alter your DNA. It is possibly to have a very athletic child though even if you and your wife and you are not athletic at all simply because there are literally trililons of DNA combinations that can occur. You lifting and not being a fat ass will in no way affect your child. If it was your wife however her health habbits can affect the childs health but cannot change the childs actual gene's unless it is caused by mutation due to drug use or inproper nutrition so that the childs cells cannot create the correct proteins during growth.
 
CollegeKid2 you guys (except for mini viper) are retarded. didn't you pay attention in middle school biology class? you can't change your genes by manipulating your body (i.e. working out). for example, if you get really really fat because you stop lifting and eating right, do you think your kid is going to be born fat? no. same way that if you are huge and ripped your kid isn't going to be born that way either. you can change your body, but you can't change your genes.


Its easier for you to remember middle school biology, you just open your current text book. I didn't say a goddamn thing about gene manupilation or altering DNA. I said healthy parents are more likely to have healthy children than crack addicts who smoke 2 packs a day. Sit outside a fast food joint 99% of the lard ass parents have lard assed little bastards with them.
 
alot of it has to do with environmnet
like stated before, health conssious parents are more likely to have healthy kids, because children imitate their parents.
when I was a kid my dad was a gym nut, and all i wanted to do was lift wieghts like him.
now i have a daughter of my own, and she will try and do crunches with me, because she wants to be around me.
you can flip it around for the shit heads who eat at McDonalds three times a day and try to sue because they and their kids are fat slobs
go to a t-ball game or soccer game for little kids, you can see why some do better than others
 
jesus liftsiron, tells us what you really think about lard ass little bastards...

Seriously though, I agree with lifts. it may not be genetic, but setting the proper example goes a long way.
 
Fuck middle school bio. Look at reality. What we do and the environment we do it in DOES affect our DNA.

But like I said, simply wieght training is not going to result in some major genetic difference you will easily see compared to if you had not.
 
Silent Method said:
Fuck middle school bio. Look at reality. What we do and the environment we do it in DOES affect our DNA.

But like I said, simply wieght training is not going to result in some major genetic difference you will easily see compared to if you had not.

I disagree, at least, when it comes to the father. Exception with the mother would be if she were to do things during pregnancy which would affect the fetus.

Many times, you see children of athletes become athletes too, but I think this is due more to parential influence rather than genetics.

-sk
 
ok makes sense, but what about evolution? don't you think certain races have genetic traits because of environmental factors? so in the long run, woudn't this apply to us? Not arguing anyone's point, just thinking.. Obviously the right way is to lead a healthy lifestyle and not eat a stick of butter with your biscuit everday..
 
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Originally posted by Silent Method
Fuck middle school bio. Look at reality. What we do and the environment we do it in DOES affect our DNA.

But like I said, simply wieght training is not going to result in some major genetic difference you will easily see compared to if you had not.
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sk* said:


I disagree, at least, when it comes to the father. Exception with the mother would be if she were to do things during pregnancy which would affect the fetus.

Many times, you see children of athletes become athletes too, but I think this is due more to parential influence rather than genetics.

-sk
I'm not sure where you're at. Do you believe that the things we do and the environment where we do them has an influence on our genetics?
 
Well just look at Arnold's son...He weighed in at close to 12 lbs at birth. Now don't tell me he isn't going to be one big fucker when he's older.
 
The state of sperm health research
Until recently the health of sperm was identified by microscopic observation of their speed and shape. Advances in genetics looking at the composition of sperm are leading to more accurate identification of healthy sperm.

Current research indicates that male sperm counts are declining in many parts of the world, including America and Europe. In one Danish study a 1 per cent decline per year in the sperm count has been recorded over the last 50 years. Such findings have their critics particularly in the face of more recent studies that suggest no such decline. On balance however the current wisdom suggests there is some decline in sperm counts and there seems to be consensus on at least most of the causes; the most important of which are listed below:

What can I do to make my sperm fit, healthy and potent?
It is important to remember that there is still a lot to be learnt about male fertility. We do know that a lot of the things that make sperm healthy are the things that are healthy for men anyway. So even if it takes a while for your partner to get pregnant you are not wasting your time!

(1)Tight trousers and underwear, synthetic material and heat.
It has been suggested that all these effect fertility so get out those baggy cotton boxers! Keep the family jewels cool. It is known that the scrotum area needs to be 4 degrees lower than body temperature.

(2)Climate.
Some experts suggest that climate and seasons, countries, regions and different years may all have an influence on sperm counts and fertility. One piece of research showed the sperm count in New York was much higher than Los Angeles, that Finland's was higher than Britain.

(3)Hot tubs.
Frequent hot tubs have been shown to lower sperm counts. Have a shower instead.

(4)Alcohol.
Alcohol can damage sperm. Limit your alcohol intake when you are trying to improve your fertility.

(5)Drugs.
There are a number of drugs that affect fertility, amongst them are steroids, cytotoxic drugs used in cancer treatments and opiates. Contact your family doctor if you are on any long term medication that you are worried may affect your fertility. Doctors should always inform you of any side effects but it is always easy to check if you have forgotten.

(6)Environmental Toxins.
There is quite a lot of conflicting evidence about the substances that may cause damage to sperm. It is known that radiation causes damage and birth defects. Other substances thought to have a detrimental effect on sperm are some perfumes containing phthalates, some types of pesticides, organic mercury, polychlorinated biphenyls, estrogens in water supply. Many of these substances are still the subject of on-going research.

(7)Supplements.
Folic acid in combination with zinc sulfate has been shown to have often dramatic effects on sperm counts. Some men when taking these supplements increased their sperm count by as much as 74 per cent.

Class dismissed.
In search of truth,
Academically yours,
Professor Ellis
4MEN Staff






Take a good look at #7, certain toxins in the male can lead to birth defects, radiation being an example.
 
as posted by Mr. Black
Well just look at Arnold's son...He weighed in at close to 12 lbs at birth. Now don't tell me he isn't going to be one big fucker when he's older.

It is true that his son will be a big mother fucker when he grows up just like his father. However, Arnold has the genetics already I mean his pics of him when he was 14 years old, the genetic base is already there and it shows and thats why he got so fucking huge by the time he was 19. Its in the genes and his son is a damn lucky fucker, lol!!!

:)
 
Mr. Black said:
Well just look at Arnold's son...He weighed in at close to 12 lbs at birth. Now don't tell me he isn't going to be one big fucker when he's older.

had nothing to do w/ the fact arnold lifted,
has everything to do w/ the fact he has outstanding genes
 
I am absolutely astonished by this thread.

I really hope people are just miscommunicating as to exactly what is being asked.

I think it's amazing that there are people on here who feel qualified to self medicate with multiple substances, when they are oblivious to the very basics of Mendelian genetics (typically taught about Freshamn year of high school) - here, specifically, the Weissman boundary.
 
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By the way, birth weight has nothing to do with the size of the person later in life. My girlfriend's friend has 2 daughters who were both 9-10 lbs at birth, and now, years later, they're tiny skinny little things.


I agree with rjl-whateverhisnameis, lifting won't change your DNA.
 
I think YES. We can modify the genetics of our sons and grandsons. For example. Look at obesity. What is obesity?. Ok, it is an illness, genetic hereditary. But, beyond that, obesity is a mutation or a degeneration of the specimen. How?. It is a product of a long history of poor nutrition habits and inactivity. So with time, that habits are passed over generation and generation. Then, after about 4 or 5 generations, the poor boy will be obese. What happen when a person is fat but not obese?. It is because his parents have very bad nutrition habits and has passed that to the son but the obesity has not been created yet.

So I think the reverse thing happens when we have good nutrition habits and good lifestyle like working out, being active, eating well, being healthy, all that information is passed over our sons and grandsons giving with every generation a better specimen.
 
liftsiron said:



Its easier for you to remember middle school biology, you just open your current text book. I didn't say a goddamn thing about gene manupilation or altering DNA. I said healthy parents are more likely to have healthy children than crack addicts who smoke 2 packs a day. Sit outside a fast food joint 99% of the lard ass parents have lard assed little bastards with them.

hahahahaha, also doesnt juice and gh alter our genetics in a way...YES;)
 
JibbyJabba said:
I am absolutely astonished by this thread.

I really hope people are just miscommunicating as to exactly what is being asked.

I think it's amazing that there are people on here who feel qualified to self medicate with multiple substances, when they are oblivious to the very basics of Mendelian genetics (typically taught about Freshamn year of high school) - here, specifically, the Weissman boundary.
 
djufo said:
Look at obesity. What is obesity?. Ok, it is an illness, genetic hereditary. But, beyond that, obesity is a mutation or a degeneration of the specimen.
obesity is the result of a lack of adaption, adaption to high-carb diets that is. Mankind never ate so much sugar as the western world did in the last 50 years. The introduction of the low-fat high-carb regimen is only some 20 years old - exactly the same period obesity became an epidemic.
But people are eating more sugar as they should for - depending on the geographic area - for 5000 and more years. Still, most people are not made for high-carb diets and get fat. This is an example of a lack of genetic adaption. And you will find no other genetic change in humans anymore because human evolution has stopped altogether. Evolution is survival of the fittest; humans with the good genes will reproduce more often than humans with bad genes. But this is not the case anymore, more the opposite is reality: a fat jobless sloth is likely to have more children than a careerwoman. Thank the welfare state for that.
 
In point of fact, Darwin never said "survival of the fittest", he said "survival of the fit." Sorry, just got back from class. ;)
 
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