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mattdan
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This is just my opinion on the use of insulin. You are free to disagree if you like, just do it civilly.
A while back (I think it was Nelson) posted a thread on 10 things that have improved lately. I’d like to add one – less use (abuse) of insulin. I’d like to question just how necessary it is to inject insulin, and can similar gains be made without the injections.
Back in the early 90’s you just had to do insulin – all you had to do was go to any board and they’d tell you. Kinda like some with test on this board.
We all know that insulin is the most anabolic hormone and is the master hormone when it comes to storing fat and building muscle. In fact, the body really can’t effectively do either without some insulin.
But – does this mean you HAVE to inject insulin? I don’t think so. This is of course not based on any medical studies. I do have some medical training, but this is mostly common sense.
Here’s why: Let’s make up some purely hypothetical numbers here. These numbers are for example only and ARE NOT accurate. Lets say you do 5 iu’s of insulin. Let’s also say you consume 100 grams of carbs with the insulin.
Now let’s say the body actually requires the equivalent of 10iu’s of insulin to properly process those 100 grams of carbs. Well your body will only release 5 iu’s of insulin. (again, these numbers are not accurate, only for example)
Example 2: So lets say you don’t do insulin at all, you only ingest the 100 grams of carbs. Your body will in this case release all 10 iu’s of insulin to maintain proper blood sugar level.
In other words, your body will self-regulate your blood sugar levels. TRUE – you don’t get that initial spike of insulin up front by injecting, but in the end, your body will essentially use the same amount of insulin to process the 100 grams of carbs (more or less).
So – doesn’t it stand to reason you could get similar gains by just doing the carbs, then follow up with the protein an hour later? Maybe the gains won’t be quite as good, but they should be similar in my mind with much less risk.
Plus, I remember one very unpleasant side effect of insulin. You get tired as hell an hour later. It’s damned hard NOT to go to sleep.
You also have to deal with the stored fat. What the muscles don’t use WILL get stored as fat, even if you don’t eat any fat. I wonder how many people know your body will MANUFACTURE ITS OWN FAT. You DO NOT have to eat fat to store fat. Your body converts some of the excess sugar to fat.
My main problem with insulin is the possibility of developing diabetes later in life. Our bodies were never designed to eat the amount of poor quality carbs we eat. We were not designed to eat processed white shit like sugar, white flour, etc. We process out all the fiber and such which causes the spiking and crashing blood sugar which adds to the insulin resistance.
Because of this our bodies develop insulin resistance. This means it requires more and more insulin to accomplish the same thing – regulating our BS. The pancreas cannot keep up with the ever increasing insulin needs and you eventually develop type II diabetes. (I’m obviously leaving out the obesity factor here.)
There are other potential side effects of insulin abuse. Heart disease for one. Plus insulin abuse increases the stores of visceral fat, which is not a good thing.
The bottom line is I feel you can get similar results with a good carb drink followed by a healthy meal with much lower risk.
Oh yeah, there is that other little pesky side effect of insulin – death. There HAVE been documented cases of insulin abuse comas and death. Insulin can cause a coma in a matter of minutes. I’ve never heard of someone overdosing on a carb drink. One girl was in a coma for 2 years before dying. She was a pro BB abusing insulin.
Good luck.
A while back (I think it was Nelson) posted a thread on 10 things that have improved lately. I’d like to add one – less use (abuse) of insulin. I’d like to question just how necessary it is to inject insulin, and can similar gains be made without the injections.
Back in the early 90’s you just had to do insulin – all you had to do was go to any board and they’d tell you. Kinda like some with test on this board.
We all know that insulin is the most anabolic hormone and is the master hormone when it comes to storing fat and building muscle. In fact, the body really can’t effectively do either without some insulin.
But – does this mean you HAVE to inject insulin? I don’t think so. This is of course not based on any medical studies. I do have some medical training, but this is mostly common sense.
Here’s why: Let’s make up some purely hypothetical numbers here. These numbers are for example only and ARE NOT accurate. Lets say you do 5 iu’s of insulin. Let’s also say you consume 100 grams of carbs with the insulin.
Now let’s say the body actually requires the equivalent of 10iu’s of insulin to properly process those 100 grams of carbs. Well your body will only release 5 iu’s of insulin. (again, these numbers are not accurate, only for example)
Example 2: So lets say you don’t do insulin at all, you only ingest the 100 grams of carbs. Your body will in this case release all 10 iu’s of insulin to maintain proper blood sugar level.
In other words, your body will self-regulate your blood sugar levels. TRUE – you don’t get that initial spike of insulin up front by injecting, but in the end, your body will essentially use the same amount of insulin to process the 100 grams of carbs (more or less).
So – doesn’t it stand to reason you could get similar gains by just doing the carbs, then follow up with the protein an hour later? Maybe the gains won’t be quite as good, but they should be similar in my mind with much less risk.
Plus, I remember one very unpleasant side effect of insulin. You get tired as hell an hour later. It’s damned hard NOT to go to sleep.
You also have to deal with the stored fat. What the muscles don’t use WILL get stored as fat, even if you don’t eat any fat. I wonder how many people know your body will MANUFACTURE ITS OWN FAT. You DO NOT have to eat fat to store fat. Your body converts some of the excess sugar to fat.
My main problem with insulin is the possibility of developing diabetes later in life. Our bodies were never designed to eat the amount of poor quality carbs we eat. We were not designed to eat processed white shit like sugar, white flour, etc. We process out all the fiber and such which causes the spiking and crashing blood sugar which adds to the insulin resistance.
Because of this our bodies develop insulin resistance. This means it requires more and more insulin to accomplish the same thing – regulating our BS. The pancreas cannot keep up with the ever increasing insulin needs and you eventually develop type II diabetes. (I’m obviously leaving out the obesity factor here.)
There are other potential side effects of insulin abuse. Heart disease for one. Plus insulin abuse increases the stores of visceral fat, which is not a good thing.
The bottom line is I feel you can get similar results with a good carb drink followed by a healthy meal with much lower risk.
Oh yeah, there is that other little pesky side effect of insulin – death. There HAVE been documented cases of insulin abuse comas and death. Insulin can cause a coma in a matter of minutes. I’ve never heard of someone overdosing on a carb drink. One girl was in a coma for 2 years before dying. She was a pro BB abusing insulin.
Good luck.
