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digimon7068 said:
when there's a bigger outcry over atrocities committed against animals than there is for atrocities committed against people, the human race is doomed. . .it's a damn shame. . .we had a pretty good run. . .


There is NOT a bigger outcry. The reason for the outcry for animals is b/c they cannot speak for themselves.
Any damage done to society (to humans or animals) should be punished.
We, as humans, must treat ALL living things with respect and dignity.

Forget the laws.......the laws of Muslim countries are fucking stupid and are made by inadequate men. They kill their wives for walking out of the house w/out their fucking scarves. This is not the same, we are not fucking monsters like those ppl.
Here in North American we work hard on making our society humane and respectful, this pc of dirt Vick went against what our society is trying to attain so he must be punished. He's a sick part of the human species.
We institutionalize sick ppl all the time.
 
blueta2 said:
There is NOT a bigger outcry. The reason for the outcry for animals is b/c they cannot speak for themselves.
Any damage done to society (to humans or animals) should be punished.
We, as humans, must treat ALL living things with respect and dignity.

Forget the laws.......the laws of Muslim countries are fucking stupid and are made by inadequate men. They kill their wives for walking out of the house w/out their fucking scarves. This is not the same, we are not fucking monsters like those ppl.
Here in North American we work hard on making our society humane and respectful, this pc of dirt Vick went against what our society is trying to attain so he must be punished. He's a sick part of the human species.
We institutionalize sick ppl all the time.

remember what happened the last time we got in an argument?? you really need a cold shower that bad??? :qt:
 
blueta2 said:
There is NOT a bigger outcry. The reason for the outcry for animals is b/c they cannot speak for themselves.
Any damage done to society (to humans or animals) should be punished.
We, as humans, must treat ALL living things with respect and dignity.

Forget the laws.......the laws of Muslim countries are fucking stupid and are made by inadequate men. They kill their wives for walking out of the house w/out their fucking scarves. This is not the same, we are not fucking monsters like those ppl. Here in North American we work hard on making our society humane and respectful, this pc of dirt Vick went against what our society is trying to attain so he must be punished. He's a sick part of the human species.
We institutionalize sick ppl all the time.

Ms Blue... I must humbly disagree with your statement. How many monsters have you seen LAUGHING about the fact that my children were not only stripped of their mother for NO REASON but have to be continually subjected to abuse?

Sorry, but this is VERY personal for me.

I would never hurt a fly. I dont even like squashing bugs but, if I had to kill and animal I would - not for pleasure... I am not wired that way and pity those that are...

I am disgusted by the very people that *suddenly* have become human because of some goddamned dogs. Some of those very same people have

- said the most disgusting things about my defenseless and innocent abused children.

- laughed at their suffering as well as my own.

- wished death upon me AND my husband.

So.... you were saying?

Sorry, but my heart is far too hardened to worry about some fucking dogs. I am too busy trying not to lose my mind over how my children are made to suffer and are abused DAILY yet nobody seems to give a fat fucking rat's ass.
 
blueta2 said:
I won??! ;-)

Well this is not an argument, it's a debate ;-)

actually it's not even a debate. . .i understand and respect your point of view and, personally i have no great love for my fellow man. . .it just strikes me as odd that the executions of the four college students in newark by a bunch of fuggin' scumbags (at least one of which was a piece of shit illegal fucking alien) is on the radar screen for like two days and got ZERO attention form the feds. . .yet this michael vick dog execution/abuse thing has played hard everyday since the initial raid and the federal government dedicated some of it's best forensic people/tools to gathering evidence to use against a formerly honest taxpaying citizen. . .
 
BIKINIMOM said:
Ms Blue... I must humbly disagree with your statement. How many monsters have you seen LAUGHING about the fact that my children were not only stripped of their mother for NO REASON but have to be continually subjected to abuse?

Sorry, but this is VERY personal for me.

I would never hurt a fly. I dont even like squashing bugs but, if I had to kill and animal I would - not for pleasure... I am not wired that way and pity those that are...

I am disgusted by the very people that *suddenly* have become human because of some goddamned dogs. Some of those very same people have

- said the most disgusting things about my defenseless and innocent abused children.

- laughed at their suffering as well as my own.

- wished death upon me AND my husband.

So.... you were saying?

Sorry, but my heart is far to hardened to worry about some fucking dogs. I am too busy trying not to lose my mind over how my children are made to suffer and are abused DAILY yet nobody seems to give a fat fucking rat's ass.

The people who are laughing in your situation with your kids, are also not good humans. Anyone who will abuse kids is as sick as anyone who abuses an animal
My point is, we ALL live in the planet together, we must respect EVERYONE (that includes animals).
Your heart can be with the love of kids and animals, the heart is big enough to accommodate both!
This is a personal and sensitive issue for you I know, but you must know animal abuse is my biggest issue since I see abused and tortured animals all the time.
I do not value a human more than an animal, so I cannot say I sway to one side or the other. I respect both
 
digimon7068 said:
actually it's not even a debate. . .i understand and respect your point of view and, personally i have no great love for my fellow man. . .it just strikes me as odd that the executions of the four college students in newark by a bunch of fuggin' scumbags (at least one of which was a piece of shit illegal fucking alien) is on the radar screen for like two days and got ZERO attention form the feds. . .yet this michael vick dog execution/abuse thing has played hard everyday since the initial raid and the federal government dedicated some of it's best forensic people/tools to gathering evidence to use against a formerly honest taxpaying citizen. . .


oh well that's only b/c he's a "star". If John Nobody was caught in the same act as Vick, we would not have even heard about it on the news.
In fact, dog fighting goes on all the time and we never heard about it.

Parent abuse happens a lot as well, but now that it's all the "rage" with Britney, we're going to hear about it non stop.....

See what I'm saying....
 
blueta2 said:
The people who are laughing in your situation with your kids, are also not good humans. Anyone who will abuse kids is as sick as anyone who abuses an animal
My point is, we ALL live in the planet together, we must respect EVERYONE (that includes animals).
Your heart can be with the love of kids and animals, the heart is big enough to accommodate both!
This is a personal and sensitive issue for you I know, but you must know animal abuse is my biggest issue since I see abused and tortured animals all the time.
I do not value a human more than an animal, so I cannot say I sway to one side or the other. I respect both

That is why I say HYPOCRITES because some of the most outraged about these dogs are the ones who have had YEARS of laughter over the situation of my children, have made all sorts of jokes about my daughters and wished me and my husband death then to REALLY be charming have expressed that they hoped my children NEVER see me again! NYICE... to wish that ANY CHILD grow up without a mother. Their mothers must have been stellar human beings is all I can think of. How can ANYONE wish a child not have a mother?

I dont find pleasure in the suffering of anyone. I could NEVER hurt an animal. Just isn't in me. And I do agree, anyone who is capable of torturing an animal for pleasure would most likely not have to stretch too much to torture a human being.

The only issue I have is with THE UNBELIEVABLE HYPOCRASY of some of the male members on these threads going on and on about how sad it is to see animals tortured...

All of them turn my stomach.
 
BIKINIMOM said:
That is why I say HYPOCRITES because some of the most outraged about these dogs are the ones who have had YEARS of laughter over the situation of my children, have made all sorts of jokes about my daughters and wished me and my husband death then to REALLY be charming have expressed that they hoped my children NEVER see me again! NYICE... to wish that ANY CHILD grow up without a mother. Their mothers must have been stellar human beings is all I can think of. How can ANYONE wish a child not have a mother?

I dont find pleasure in the suffering of anyone. I could NEVER hurt an animal. Just isn't in me. And I do agree, anyone who is capable of torturing an animal for pleasure would most likely not have to stretch too much to torture a human being.

The only issue I have is with THE UNBELIEVABLE HYPOCRASY of some of the male members on these threads going on and on about how sad it is to see animals tortured...

All of them turn my stomach.


NO DOUBT in all that you say....again proving my point, HUMANS SUCK!
Well not all, but most!
Karma comes in all different shape and sizes and one day the evil will get theirs. That is the only comfort I have
 
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