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CrazyRussian said:
Why are you still talking about this? You started a post knowing nothing about what you were talking about. He's getting put in prison for gambling rings, conspiracy, illegal interstate commerce, possibly racketeering/sponsoring a criminal organization, and a bunch of other counts we don't know about.

Not "killing dogs".

Your opinion on whether killing 8 dogs warranted this punishment is irrelevant, because that's not why he's going to prison. How many times do people have to repeat this before you get it through your head?

The fact that you won't just admit that you're wrong and that you're just arguing for the sake of arguing is what makes you a dick.
Bro, do I need to break it down any simpler?

Its because of the DOGS that everyone is talking about this. Its the DOG issue that makes people want to see him get the book thrown at him.

His little rackateering and conspiracy thing? It was for peanuts, not even worth the feds time of day, and it would not have even existed without the dogs. Some of those purses were for less than $1000. Do you think the Feds are really concerned about that? Tax evasion even? There were a couple big purses, 5 digits. I bet many pro athletes throw wagers around for that amount, but its the involvement of the DOGS that set this apart. No one would give a shit otherwise.
 
Lestat said:
Bro, do I need to break it down any simpler?

Its because of the DOGS that everyone is talking about this. Its the DOG issue that makes people want to see him get the book thrown at him.

His little rackateering and conspiracy thing? It was for peanuts, not even worth the feds time of day, and it would not have even existed without the dogs. Some of those purses were for less than $1000. Do you think the Feds are really concerned about that? Tax evasion even? There were a couple big purses, 5 digits. I bet many pro athletes throw wagers around for that amount, but its the involvement of the DOGS that set this apart. No one would give a shit otherwise.

Now reread your statement. Now it is about the money?

He had nothing to gain, He had millions of dollars. He used them to abuse animals to make more money.

You can't even stick to one argument. go smoke a bowl and post pics of leftover chicks from sd. You have proven yourself the fool on this topic.
 
NO IDIOT! he is getting bent over because he broke the fucking law!

He is a man of privelege, because of football, and he CHOSE to torture and profit from innocent creatures. IT was against the law.

You need a fucking reality check.
 
Lestat said:
I don't try to pick fights, I enjoy being well liked and arguing with everyone doesn't help.

There are topics I just seem to have strong opinions on. Religion and politics obviously get me in trouble. But this Vick thing is new, just saw a bit of news on it and it made me sick how they are publicly lynching the guy. He fucked up, but come on, wouldn't you expect to be treated a bit better? I expect more from humanity, at least what we consider the civilized part of it. Vick fucked that up with the whole dog fighting deal, that shit is not right and brings us all down. Deal with the shit, have him man up, and lets move on.

If he takes a "deal" he agreed to fully cooperate with the Feds. He should help them take down a bigger portion of the whole operation. Its primarily in the South, he has to be connected somewhat if his dogs were fighting regularly in the circuit. Lets get rid of the shit once and for all and let this guy remain with a little dignity intact. He fucked up, no doubt. No one died though, no one suffered injury physically or monetarily. Just some stupid people doing stupid shit. The dogs, that sucks man, its fucking terrible. But I can't get too choked up over some 8 executed dogs (and who knows, there was probably more) when there's people dying right now of starvation, people getting blown up by suicide bombers, and stray US bombs. Bleak shit is going down everywhere (poor mexican's fucked up in some mine, bunch of people losing all their shit in a hurricane) but we have to focus in on some dogs? People leave their dogs on the fucking highway when they get tired of them, or move, we've all seen it. How do you think these dogs get out there? Jumping out of trucks?

Fact is, Vick is getting bent over because of the dogs involvement. People think aw fuck he's a perverted motherfucker if he can electocute a poor lil puppy dog. Its some sick shit, but who did he hurt? Its his own fucked up fetish (which is, and should be illegal) so make him pay up and promise never to do it again (all kinds of bans on owining dogs and probation and what not) and lets call it a day.

cool?

There's gonna be a lot of varying opinions. I think he should get some jail time (Maybe a month or two) and fines and his career is gonna be ruined. What he did calls for possible jail time under the law and under these circumstances, I would agree that a little time is deserved. But, not too much. As despicable as what he did was, they were dogs... People are allowed to shoot dogs if the wander onto their property. Happens out here in the country sometimes.
 
I don't give a fuck about the dogs. And I don't give a fuck about the gambling ring shit. I don't give a fuck about Vick either (other than the fact that I have been saying he's overrated since day one and was DEAD ON BALLS ACCURATE).

But any "he made a mistake, he apologized, let's move on" approach to dealing with people over the age of 14 is just ridiculous.
 
The same media engine that made him very rich is now taking him down in the public eye.......even if he was not a public figure he would be fucked...there just wouldnt be much media. You break the law and get caught and get convicted you are fucked......end of story.
btw the IRS WILL go after you for $1000.00...
 
Lestat said:
I don't try to pick fights, I enjoy being well liked and arguing with everyone doesn't help.

There are topics I just seem to have strong opinions on. Religion and politics obviously get me in trouble. But this Vick thing is new, just saw a bit of news on it and it made me sick how they are publicly lynching the guy. He fucked up, but come on, wouldn't you expect to be treated a bit better? I expect more from humanity, at least what we consider the civilized part of it. Vick fucked that up with the whole dog fighting deal, that shit is not right and brings us all down. Deal with the shit, have him man up, and lets move on.

If he takes a "deal" he agreed to fully cooperate with the Feds. He should help them take down a bigger portion of the whole operation. Its primarily in the South, he has to be connected somewhat if his dogs were fighting regularly in the circuit. Lets get rid of the shit once and for all and let this guy remain with a little dignity intact. He fucked up, no doubt. No one died though, no one suffered injury physically or monetarily. Just some stupid people doing stupid shit. The dogs, that sucks man, its fucking terrible. But I can't get too choked up over some 8 executed dogs (and who knows, there was probably more) when there's people dying right now of starvation, people getting blown up by suicide bombers, and stray US bombs. Bleak shit is going down everywhere (poor mexican's fucked up in some mine, bunch of people losing all their shit in a hurricane) but we have to focus in on some dogs? People leave their dogs on the fucking highway when they get tired of them, or move, we've all seen it. How do you think these dogs get out there? Jumping out of trucks?

Fact is, Vick is getting bent over because of the dogs involvement. People think aw fuck he's a perverted motherfucker if he can electocute a poor lil puppy dog. Its some sick shit, but who did he hurt? Its his own fucked up fetish (which is, and should be illegal) so make him pay up and promise never to do it again (all kinds of bans on owining dogs and probation and what not) and lets call it a day.

cool?

#1 - You are not well liked.
#2 - Where is the 1 million K you bet me when you opened your big mouth. A real man honors his bets. Pay up son or you'll never hear the end of it.
 
Lestat.

I am not purposely trying to pick something out of this and analyis you, but any chance this has to do with the fact that he is a black celebrity being brought down by the white government that is bothering you about this?

I noticed you used the word 'lynched' as well. I know your sensitive to racial issues and it occured to me that you might be sensitive to this because of the fact he is black.
 
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