I'm becomming a cripple on Dbol

[babbabuee]

same thing would happen to me when I took dbol. Pumps in my jaw from chewing food. It fucks with my workouts too much. this time around i'm not exceeding 15mg/day. interesting about the milk thistle radar. I've got some on hand for my upcoming cycle, but not the same brand you mentioned. Hopefully It'll work for me. but then again, if the pumps get that bad, I'm dropping it from my cycle all together.

 

[ViperHMS]

this is sooo funny cause i did the same thing when i was in korea...except i was on anadrol....im in the army so i have to keep myself mobile....i planned on running 2-3 miles....lol i ran about 1 mile probably less had to walk for a while....i tried to run again but it just wouldnt happen...i turned around on walked back it took forever....the pump were so painfull

Glad someone knows my pain! LMFAO

 

[RADAR]

same thing would happen to me when I took dbol. Pumps in my jaw from chewing food. It fucks with my workouts too much. this time around i'm not exceeding 15mg/day. interesting about the milk thistle radar. I've got some on hand for my upcoming cycle, but not the same brand you mentioned. Hopefully It'll work for me. but then again, if the pumps get that bad, I'm dropping it from my cycle all together.

Chewing gum is a bitch also ,i was growing two biceps on each side of my forehead.

Good luck on the MT you have i'm sure there has to be other brands that compare to mine, i just havn't fount them yet, probably never will, when you have something that works you stick with it.

RADAR

 

[marqui77]

I feel your pain...lol..I was out shoveling the snow 2 days ago, my lower back was so pumped up I had to keep on take a rest on a 30 ft side walk.

 

[twinker]

Interesting thing about using milk thistle(silymarin) while on:

there's persistant bullshit circulating stating that silymarin is bad to take along with orals because it increases the rate at which the liver metabolises the drug. this is false. either no effect or the opposite has been found with both alcohol and aspirin:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...4&dopt=Abstract

in vitro evidence suggests that silymarin actually inhibits drug metabolism, causing steroids to circulate in the body longer. most steroid breakdown is done by the cyp3a4 enzyme, which is significantly(dose dependant, but at least a 65% slower rate) inhibited by silymarin:

http://dmd.aspetjournals.org/cgi/co...full/28/11/1270

so why have users reported decreased steroid effects when using silymarin when the opposite should be true?

i found this study which has fascinating consequences:

http://carcin.oupjournals.org/cgi/c.../full/22/9/1399

a choice excerpt:

"SB decreased androgen-stimulated growth and prostate-specific antigen (PSA) levels in LNCaP cells (6). In this study, we further evaluated the effects of SM and SB on androgen action. We found that SM and SB down-regulate several androgen-regulated genes, including PSA, human glandular kallikrein (hK2) and an immunophilin, FKBP51, mainly by inhibiting the transactivation activity of the AR. More interestingly, we show that SM and SB can inhibit nuclear localization of the AR. Thus this report provides a novel mechanism by which SM and SB inhibit function of the AR."

or, in plain(er) english, when an androgen comes to a cell it passes through the cell membrane and binds to an androgen receptor in the cytoplasm. upon binding, the receptor/androgen bundle float to the nucleus to tell which tell the cell to alter its behaviour, i.e. in this case, "synthesize more protein and grow larger". different androgens probably relay different messages, which is why particular stacks seem to be more effective than others, despite all binding to the same receptor.

silymarin inhibits this either by preventing androgen/receptor bundles from ever reaching the nucleus, or by allowing the bundle to drift out of the nucleus easily once there.

i.e. all androgens, oral or injectable, will not work nearly as well. avoid silymarin, and please spread the word.
Feel free to repost this anywhere with proper acknowledgements to both marble and getbig.

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=23634.0

 

[fulforb]

I had the same problem with M1T as far as the back pumps go. Never really got that from DBOL so far and I have done up to 60mg a day.

 

[kbrkbr]

Radar, will MT work for fina pumps as well?

Thanks much.

 

[RADAR]

Radar, will MT work for fina pumps as well?

Thanks much.

I've had it to work in other cases,never tried fina so i can't say, wouldn't hurt to try ,its cheap.


RADAR

 

[toxicsambo]

Chewing gum is a bitch also ,i was growing two biceps on each side of my forehead.

RADAR

ROFL. That would be badass on the beach. You could oil up and flex your jaw so the peaks impress the ladies.

 

[DIVISION]

Took off today to go shopping at the mall, filled my pockets with some emergency milk thistle, half way thru the mall my left calf starting getting a umongous pump thus causing me to limp, my partned Dee asks "when did you hurt your leg?" about that time my lower back and right calf started pumping also, i was almost on my knees the time i made it to the mens room.
The milk thistle got me back in the game but just barely, 3 more painful weeks before i drop the dbol all current activities are now suspended, except Training,& eating,and working as little as possible. Yuck!

RADAR, you are not fucking CRIPPLED!!!!

Stop bitching, bro.......I hooked you up......I helped you.

Settle down, man.

BTW: Tell babyDee I still want those nudes!





DIV