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swole

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Because anything that doesn't add 17lbs of water within 4 days of use is just a big fat waste of money.

Seriously though, post your lean mass cycles. The ones that keep you full and cut while adding pure, quality mass to your frame.

Mine is the one I'm currently on:

WK 1 - 20 300mg Test E EW
WK 1 - 20 500mg Primo EW
WK 1-4 4 Pumps Derma ED (this was a beautiful jumpstart...primed everything with no water weigh or side effects)

I take HCG and aromasin as needed. One to keep the boys working and the other to keep bloating at bay when it wasn't diet related. I use this phrase cautiously simply because it's not as easy as it sounds. It took me a good 2 months to learn what "as needed" meant to ME.

PCT will be HCG, aromasin and sustain alpha.
 
perryscoon said:
I think you mean anything that DOES add 17lbs of water is a waste of money.
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nah man! It's only worth it if you get bloated and make insane (water) gains within the first 2 weeks! It means your dose is perfect.
 
Hell yeah bro.

I did a few low dose var.

Did a few low dose short props. Just worked up to 500mg.

I had reached my genetic limit and I made small gains on each cycle.

I definately don't want to be the asshole that is all...

"oh look at me. I'm on steriods"
 
FINA!...Sweet Nectar of the Gods!!....a little winny here...some var there....don't forget the clen!!....slow and steady wins the race!
 
besides test
i only use primo, eq, var & tren.

slow steady gains are very keep-able, if you're smart about it.

i'm all about the "greek sculptured" look not the "bloated bull" look lol.
 
Damn swole...stop posting this shit! You're making the next 4 weeks seem like forever. I then will be in this primo wonderland you speak of...lol! I have to stop reading your primo posts or time is going to drag big time. I am barely off my last cycle, and all I can think of is the next one. So can't wait to try the shit!
 
10 weeks 250mg test
10 weeks 60mg var


low test so estro issues aren't prominent, keeping water retention minimal, var to add the pure lean gains on top of the test. Nothing but solid gains with this one.
 
im 4 weeks into a turinabol test E cycle im just getting more lean keeping my diet clean, i love the slow quality gain.... i did winny and primo last summer for my first cycle it completely transformed my body and im looking forward to doing primo again i love the stuff its liquid gold!!!!!!!!
 
I'm all about the slow and steady gains. I trained for 15 years and was already over 200 lbs. before deciding to try roids. I'm only 10-15 pounds above that a few mild cycles later.

For now the only drugs I'd touch are Test, EQ, Primo and Var.

Good thread bro. Slow and steady. Don't be reckless with your body and health brothers.
 
I've always been a HUGE proponent of the "slow and steady gains" process... and it doesn't have to be with what are fondly considered "cutting" cycles or "cutting AAS"... my favorite cycle that most would consider a cutter is tren ace, prop, and provion (or t-bol). However, my most recent cycle of NPP and prop also provided me with LEAN, quality, sustainable gains. When all is said and done, I'm holding about 5 pounds of muscle from it. IT'S ALL ABOUT DIET and maintaning estrogen sides. I have to admit, I'm sometimes envious of guys that gain 10-15 pounds and still look great... BUT, slow and steady works for me! I typically gain and KEEP 5-7 pounds per cycle.
 
I know people consider these "slow steady gains" but if you think about it, gaining 5-10 quality pounds over the course of 10 weeks or so is NOT slow. In fact, it's remarkable. Try doing that natty. It would take 6 months or more. I'm totally of fan of the "slow" gains because blowing up 15 lbs in 4 weeks is so noticable and looks like shit.
 
i dont mind blowing up a little. i think it helps me stay excited that i am making progress (real or imagined) which turns into awesome workouts.
 
needtogetaas said:
Swole is going to cream his pants once he tries some tren lololol.
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lol, sad thing is

i know.
 
needtogetaas said:
Swole is going to cream his pants once he tries some tren lololol.
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Yeah, then he will be saying...

"Oh, look at me. I'm on steroids of the Gods".
 
lllolooool dying here
 
These types of gains are exactly what Im going for on my first cycle, gonna do Test E 300/week 10 wks and var at 40/day 7 wks if the var ever comes in. What kind of cals/day do u guys take in for these types of gains? do u include any T3/clen/dnp ever?
 
i love slow and steady. I think its healthy and a lot less suspicious. But, when im trying to boost strength and get massive jus for the hell of it, ill test deca dbol, high doses every time.
 
rjbodnar62 said:
These types of gains are exactly what Im going for on my first cycle, gonna do Test E 300/week 10 wks and var at 40/day 7 wks if the var ever comes in. What kind of cals/day do u guys take in for these types of gains? do u include any T3/clen/dnp ever?
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Start your own thread and you will get more help.

But, Save the var for the next cycle. Just do the test.

Don't touch dnp
 
250mg test e and 20mg dbol (low dose) works best for ME

adex on hand IF needed, I dont getbbloat so much even at high doses..
 
I find the only explaining I have to do is when I start to shrink. Of course I probably think this cus thats the only part I hate. Fuck I'll explain gaining size all day. Splaining why you lost it is what blows.
 
My favorite is a high dose of primo ie 800 to a g a week, test prop and anavar. I ran test p and primo for 10 months straight back in 04, with VAR for 6 weeks on then 6 off through the whole 10 months. Such great gains much of which I still keep to this day( gota love primo).
The only thing that sucked about that was my bank account.
 
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