Ideas on how to go from 185-210 by may?

[Tux]

I've finally made up my mind to get onstage. The contest is in late August, giving me May, June, July, and part of august to diet, about 15 weeks. I have from now till beginning of May to bulk. What are some of you guys suggestions as to what I should do? Btw, I'm 5'5", currently about 187 and 10% bf, 26yrs old, will try pretty much anything I can afford though I do have a fair amount of knowledge so if you throw out something whack you better have studies to back it up So far I am only on what I had on hand, 500mg/week test enth and 800mg/week of EQ, tons of protein and food and heavy lifting. What kind of cycles would you guys recommend from now up till contest time? All ideas welcome, the crazier and higher-dosed the better!

P.S. I want to bulk to about 210 or so, then come down to just under 176 to destroy the middleweight class, but should I somehow get freakishly huge, I suppose I could be a really tight, lower-end light-heavy! Think middleweight would be best for me at my current weight and height though.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Take everything you can get your hands on and take as much as possible.

 

[hesnobradpitt]

Fill your pockets with sand . j/k
Throw in slin , hgh
Its a big ask of your body tux ,most answers will need a disclaimer .
Brad.

 

[702daswoll1]

EQ and test will do you well. You seem a little new to all this though. Be sure to study your ass off.

 

[Tux]

You all gave piss-poor, arrogant answers just like jerks... which I know you usually aren't. I've been in this game for 7 years, I've BEEN 205lbs at 10% before, I'm more knowledgeable than 90% of this board if not more. I was merely looking for interesting ideas to mull over, not fools looking to shoot down an apparent newbie. Thanks so much for your informative answers though, sheesh, why the hell did I ever come back to a board so full of crap like this?

 

[youngbuck22]

hey same here man
Im stuck on 188lbs 14% b.f. .....ive been trying to bulk as well to 200 range...i eat and eat clean but the weight goes to the wrong places! stomach/and thighs

 

[xrsist]

how did you get to 205 10% last time bro?

 

[Tux]

Last time all it took was 800mg/week of test enanthate... T-200 by brovel if you can believe it. However, lots of that was water-weight. I was strong as hell though so alot of it was real muscle. I started that cycle with dbol too. I've been almost that big before, so it's not like I'm trying to get there for the first time, I'm just trying to get BACK to that weight, which is much easier. Anyone have any serious ideas, or do supposedly knowledgeable bros just want to flaunt their sarcasm a bit more?

 

[hehateme000]

You all gave piss-poor, arrogant answers just like jerks... which I know you usually aren't. I've been in this game for 7 years, I've BEEN 205lbs at 10% before, I'm more knowledgeable than 90% of this board if not more. I was merely looking for interesting ideas to mull over, not fools looking to shoot down an apparent newbie. Thanks so much for your informative answers though, sheesh, why the hell did I ever come back to a board so full of crap like this?

hahaha hilarious

 

[nzrodney]

PW :
dbol 40mg ED first 4 weeks
Enanthate 1g - split 4 times by 1ml if 250mg/ml
nandrolone 700mg split into 2 shots
stanozol - 100mg EOD (yes as a bulker)
EQ @ 600mg is an option but running it with deca makes my metabolism fire up like using tren, BP goes up & sweats as well. Maybe bring it in later.
Then maybe tren closer to contest time.
Pretty much what I'm running at present. Like the unusual synergy between compounds

 

[Tux]

Thank you nzrodney... interesting idea, and I've recently heard that about winny having interesting synergistic effects while bulking, I may try adding that in along with deca in a few weeks, once I hit 195 or so. Anyone else, now the daytime peeps should come along and flood this thing with neat ideas!

 

[jagerbombme]

You all gave piss-poor, arrogant answers just like jerks... which I know you usually aren't. I've been in this game for 7 years, I've BEEN 205lbs at 10% before, I'm more knowledgeable than 90% of this board if not more. I was merely looking for interesting ideas to mull over, not fools looking to shoot down an apparent newbie. Thanks so much for your informative answers though, sheesh, why the hell did I ever come back to a board so full of crap like this?

first off for your question i don't see it happeninig. secondly, when you were 205 holding lots of water then you weren't a solid 205, you were probably a solid 190. if your 185 it'd maybe be possible to hit a solid 200 by may, imo, but what an ignorant reply, they weren't being jerks, they were probably chuckling as to how it'd be possible to get what your looking for. good luck, youll need probably test deca dbol or adrol up front and winny tren primo mast on the rear

 

[bw1]

It sounds like you have cycled just about everything thing possible. So I'm sure you can get that part down on your own. Insulin, GH could in your cycle could take you to the next level. I have personally never ran slin, but have trained with people who have. As soon as they started running it gains were fast and obvious.

 

[rambleon]

I've finally made up my mind to get onstage. The contest is in late August, giving me May, June, July, and part of august to diet, about 15 weeks. I have from now till beginning of May to bulk. What are some of you guys suggestions as to what I should do? Btw, I'm 5'5", currently about 187 and 10% bf, 26yrs old, will try pretty much anything I can afford though I do have a fair amount of knowledge so if you throw out something whack you better have studies to back it up So far I am only on what I had on hand, 500mg/week test testosterone enanthate and 800mg/week of Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - , tons of protein and food and heavy lifting. What kind of cycles would you guys recommend from now up till contest time? All ideas welcome, the crazier and higher-dosed the better!

P.S. I want to bulk to about 210 or so, then come down to just under 176 to destroy the middleweight class, but should I somehow get freakishly huge, I suppose I could be a really tight, lower-end light-heavy! Think middleweight would be best for me at my current weight and height though.

The higher dose the better???
I woulda thought the idea was to reach ur goals with as little as possible.

Anyways i dont think those goals are realistic given the time frame. Like Jagerbombme i tend to think that with such gains in so little time most'll have to be water. Why dont u set the date for ur debut a year later? That'll give u the time needed to make those gains solid. At 26 u got the time.

I could write up some guerillatactic bulker/cutter here but i really dont think that would get u what u're looking for. What the hell just for laughs:

1-14 test e 750 mg ew
1-22 eq 800 mg ew
1-12 deca 600 mg ew
1-4 abombs 50 mg ed
5-8 dianabol 60 mg ed
9-14 proviron 75 mg ed
13-20 tren ace 100 mg ed
13-22 test prop 100 mg ed
13-20 T3 25 mcg ed
15-21 winny 60 mg ed
21-22 proviron 100 mg ed
1-20 Hcg 500 iu e5d
PCT: 23-24 hcg 500 iu ed, 24-27 nolva 20 mg ed(the ace should be out then), clomid 50 mg ed, derma sustain.

AI: Because of the deca and the tren: 1-20 letro .625 mg ed- 1.25 med ed adjust as needed. 21-23 adex .5 mg ed.

1-13 AT LEAST 5000 clean cals ed, then go below maintenance, do some carbcycleing etc. but i guess u know that.

I did one not too dissimilar to this except for the deca and the abombs. Didnt gain nearly as much as u've set out to do but shredded up real nice.

Now this has been an exercise in futility in a way because as i've said i dont think ur time frame is realistic. What remains to be said is this: I've written up a shitload of drugs there. Nobody should need quite that much and rest assured that if u do that much there WILL be consequenses. In short: Don't try this at home folks!

 

[GUARDIAN]

Post up some pix tux. u might as well get used 2 some critisim as the judges & fans r harsh.

i cant believe i am even going to suggest this but the only way u r going 2 meet your goal is to use insulin postworkout starting small with 2iu's a day and gradually working up 6 or so. since u r knowledgeable i wont insult your intelligence as 2 all the fine details such the immediate use of fast acting carbs etc. u should run some gh with this ed or 5 on 2 off in the 2-8 iu range. stack this with your favorite bulking cycle such as decca/sus/dbol & u might have a chance.

i would never normally recommend any of this 2 anyone so use at your own risk and please no one try this at home. i just dont see it happening without superior genetics or alot of fat.

 

[xrsist]

Last time all it took was 800mg/week of test enanthate... T-200 by brovel if you can believe it. However, lots of that was water-weight. I was strong as hell though so alot of it was real muscle. I started that cycle with Dianabol - methandrostenolone - too. I've been almost that big before, so it's not like I'm trying to get there for the first time, I'm just trying to get BACK to that weight, which is much easier. Anyone have any serious ideas, or do supposedly knowledgeable bros just want to flaunt their sarcasm a bit more?

well hit 800mg or 1g with aromasin for an AI and a super clean diet with a bit of cardio if needed..

before the show run a short pro.p/winn.y cycle, maybe even add tren

 

[jumpmaster82]

eq and test will do ya great. But run the test at a higher dose than the eq. If youve been cycling for 7 years I suggest 800mg eq and a g of test.

 

[almost-pro]

I think you should stick with what you have. Test/EQ. Or test/primo would be good..

 

[Nelson Montana]

You all gave piss-poor, arrogant answers just like jerks... which I know you usually aren't. I've been in this game for 7 years, I've BEEN 205lbs at 10% before, I'm more knowledgeable than 90% of this board if not more. I was merely looking for interesting ideas to mull over, not fools looking to shoot down an apparent newbie. Thanks so much for your informative answers though, sheesh, why the hell did I ever come back to a board so full of crap like this?

It's a ridiculous question bro. You can't arbitrarily decide how much you want to gain and seriously think there's some sort of stack that will achieve that.

My remark was in response that you were looking for the most outrageous suggestions possible. You say you've been at it for a while but you sound like an irresponsible impatient teenage newbie. You want to grow? Eat more and lift more.

 

[GUARDIAN]

It's a ridiculous question bro. You can't arbitrarily decide how much you want to gain and seriously think there's some sort of stack that will achieve that.

My remark was in response that you were looking for the most outrageous suggestions possible. You say you've been at it for a while but you sound like an irresponsible impatient teenage newbie. You want to grow? Eat more and lift more.

well said!

 

[Trendsetter21]

You all gave piss-poor, arrogant answers just like jerks... which I know you usually aren't. I've been in this game for 7 years, I've BEEN 205lbs at 10% before, I'm more knowledgeable than 90% of this board if not more. I was merely looking for interesting ideas to mull over, not fools looking to shoot down an apparent newbie. Thanks so much for your informative answers though, sheesh, why the hell did I ever come back to a board so full of crap like this?

Well your question is too broad to answer. My answer would be try eating. Thats the only way to gain weight. If you know 90% more than everyone else why do you even ask? Seriously? You know what to do then so don't waste our time.

 

[hesnobradpitt]

You all gave piss-poor, arrogant answers just like jerks... which I know you usually aren't. I've been in this game for 7 years, I've BEEN 205lbs at 10% before, I'm more knowledgeable than 90% of this board if not more. I was merely looking for interesting ideas to mull over, not fools looking to shoot down an apparent newbie. Thanks so much for your informative answers though, sheesh, why the hell did I ever come back to a board so full of crap like this?

This after 3 post s to your thread , you could do it but if youve been at it for years and are not closer to your mark now it might take longer than you have to do it safely on your body .
Brad.

 

[makaveli25]

this is a good thread even though it was a very broad question. those are pretty high goals you have for yourself.. when i started training and dieting and using aas seriously i started out at 175.. it took me three very long cycle to get to 210 pound with 10% bf.. if you do get up to 205 it will be a lot of bloat and you wont look as good on stage.. whyn;y compete at a lower weight and when the show is over take advantage of that time and run a serious bulker

 

[Tux]

I apologize for the thread, I was bored and just wanted to see different peoples ideas of how to go about this. I retract the question, it only brought out a bunch of idiotic answers on all sides. I wasn't holding much water at 205 last time b/c I was on .5mg/day of adex, it was solid. I'm already up to 190 in a week. I'll be close to 200lbs by january, and will most definitely hit 205 or better by february. I won't use insulin or GH, nor will I use massive doses, I'll just train even more like a beast and eat 5k plus cals per day. I'll let you guys be the judges of whether or not I succeed. I think most of you will be rather surprised when I'm 210 and solid before April... and yes, I'll post pics at like 200lbs, 205, 210, etc... some kind of progress pics. Anyone want to take bets on how close I'll get to a solid 210 or better by April?

 

[GUARDIAN]

I apologize for the thread, I was bored and just wanted to see different peoples ideas of how to go about this. I retract the question, it only brought out a bunch of idiotic answers on all sides. I wasn't holding much water at 205 last time b/c I was on .5mg/day of Arimidex - anastrozole - , it was solid. I'm already up to 190 in a week. I'll be close to 200lbs by january, and will most definitely hit 205 or better by february. I won't use insulin or gh - growth hormone (somatropin) - , nor will I use massive doses, I'll just train even more like a beast and eat 5k plus cals per day. I'll let you guys be the judges of whether or not I succeed. I think most of you will be rather surprised when I'm 210 and solid before April... and yes, I'll post pics at like 200lbs, 205, 210, etc... some kind of progress pics. Anyone want to take bets on how close I'll get to a solid 210 or better by April?

u betting karma?

 

[Tux]

Don't really know how to bet karma, but sure, why not? I bet I make it to 210 fairly solid, or 205 really solid, by April. Get your bets in now

 

[eddymerckx]

3 words: Coldstone Rocky Road--but those may not be the pounds you are looking for

 

[Tux]

If I were going that route, I'd emulate your avatar and go for donuts....mmm... donuts...*drooling*

 

[jagerbombme]

it only brought out a bunch of idiotic answers on all sides.

??? wtf???

it takes all kinds i guess. last time i look at this thread

 

[eddymerckx]

If I were going that route, I'd emulate your avatar and go for donuts....mmm... donuts...*drooling*

if you are stuck, try some of the shock workouts --they are a bit insane, but i use them every couple of months to remind me how weak i really am

http://www.abcbodybuilding.com/workoutsshock.php?id=17&subId=39

 

[gautho]

Red meat!

 

[hesnobradpitt]

I'LL bet 1k if your goal weigh is done good luck tux .

Brad.

 

[nzrodney]

The higher dose the better???
I woulda thought the idea was to reach ur goals with as little as possible.

Anyways i dont think those goals are realistic given the time frame. Like Jagerbombme i tend to think that with such gains in so little time most'll have to be water. Why dont u set the date for ur debut a year later? That'll give u the time needed to make those gains solid. At 26 u got the time.

I could write up some guerillatactic bulker/cutter here but i really dont think that would get u what u're looking for. What the hell just for laughs:

1-14 testosterone enanthate 750 mg ew
1-22 Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - 800 mg ew
1-12 Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - 600 mg ew
1-4 abombs 50 mg ed
5-8 dianabol 60 mg ed
9-14 proviron 75 mg ed
13-20 trenbolone ace 100 mg ed
13-22 test testosterone propionate 100 mg ed
13-20 T3 25 mcg ed
15-21 Winstrol - stanozolol 60 mg ed
21-22 proviron 100 mg ed
1-20 HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - 500 iu e5d
PCT - post cycle therapy - : 23-24 HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - 500 iu ed, 24-27 Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - 20 mg ed(the ace should be out then), clomid 50 mg ed, derma sustain.

aromatase inhibitor: Because of the Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - and the trenbolone: 1-20 Femera - letrozole - .625 mg ed- 1.25 med ed adjust as needed. 21-23 Arimidex - anastrozole - .5 mg ed.

1-13 AT LEAST 5000 clean cals ed, then go below maintenance, do some carbcycleing etc. but i guess u know that.

I did one not too dissimilar to this except for the Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - and the abombs. Didnt gain nearly as much as u've set out to do but shredded up real nice.

Now this has been an exercise in futility in a way because as i've said i dont think ur time frame is realistic. What remains to be said is this: I've written up a shitload of drugs there. Nobody should need quite that much and rest assured that if u do that much there WILL be consequenses. In short: Don't try this at home folks!

Beautiful pro cycle but I would run the HCG during the cycle cutting it off jusrt before the last shot of gear, then PCT as suggested. Much quicker recovery. Also cabergoline for prolactin .5mg ED.