I think I am going to inflict something horrible on myself

[Nathan]

I might try not smoking any weed at all for the next few days. The only real reason for this is so that I can actually get high again. Also, my lungs feel fucking disgusting after this past weekend. I'm seriously grossed out by myself. After bouts of too much smoking from boredom, I get seriously disgusted with myself. I have yet to go days without it - or even a day for that matter - but I am holding out hope. Obviously I need to get my hands on some other form of drug. Or I need to occupy myself. But how? Oh fuck. Help me.

 

[puddlemonkey]

Obviously I need to get my hands on some other form of drug.

Ambien + Vicodin =

 

[Cal_21]

I was where you're at 3 months ago. Stayed away from weed for 2 months, when I smoked it again it was much more enjoyable. I'm not sure what other people do to keep from smoking but I either beat my meat or did a shit load of push ups & curls until I was too tired to care about smoking haha. Good luck bro.

 

[Cal_21]

Ambien + Vicodin =

I hear such good things about Ambien on here, might have to check it out...

 

[Nathan]

I was where you're at 3 months ago. Stayed away from weed for 2 months, when I smoked it again it was much more enjoyable. I'm not sure what other people do to keep from smoking but I either beat my meat or did a shit load of push ups & curls until I was too tired to care about smoking haha. Good luck bro.

Yeah, I'm going to have to start running at night or something. Or learn breakdancing. It's just I already get made fun of for the amount I exercise so throwing more into the pot isn't going to help shit. Plus, I might waste away. Aaaarrggghhh.

 

[Cal_21]

Yeah, I'm going to have to start running at night or something. Or learn breakdancing. It's just I already get made fun of for the amount I exercise so throwing more into the pot isn't going to help shit. Plus, I might waste away. Aaaarrggghhh.

Yeah you're already jacked...I used playing guitar a few times to keep my mind off booze/drugs. It helped too, dunno if you're into music or not.

 

[Nathan]

Yeah you're already jacked...I used playing guitar a few times to keep my mind off booze/drugs. It helped too, dunno if you're into music or not.

Yeah, I tried picking up the base - I haven't played in years though and the callouses aren't there. It really hurts getting started again and I can't play for too long at a time.

 

[slat1]

I will tell you what. Hiking can be cool.
You open your lungs up. Get a good sweat going.
Then when you are at the top the view is amazing. The air feels really clean too.

 

[juiceddreadlocks]

I will tell you what. Hiking can be cool.
You open your lungs up. Get a good sweat going.
Then when you are at the top the view is amazing. The air feels really clean too.

+1 for 14'ers.

Benzo addiction is also cool, some of them help your GH levels considerably.

 

[gjohnson5]

I don't understand... Why does a guy at your age who looks like you do have self esteem problems? As the old saying goes youth is wasted on the young...

Either learn to use weed socially or for appetite. If you can't stop all together and save your money on CLA and b12 for appetite.

I'm not getting down on you because I'm the same way with beer. I could be drunk and not even know it... So I stopped drinking all together several years ago.

The horrible thing your doing to yourself is sitting there boored smoking weed and knowingly causing yourself help problems... But continuing to do it anyway. The best thing your body is telling you right now is that weed is disgusting. This will help you quit. But once you quit you need to stop entirely or atleast use weed sparingly.

I might try not smoking any weed at all for the next few days. The only real reason for this is so that I can actually get high again. Also, my lungs feel fucking disgusting after this past weekend. I'm seriously grossed out by myself. After bouts of too much smoking from boredom, I get seriously disgusted with myself. I have yet to go days without it - or even a day for that matter - but I am holding out hope. Obviously I need to get my hands on some other form of drug. Or I need to occupy myself. But how? Oh fuck. Help me.

 

[roadwarrior]

+1 for 14'ers.

Benzo addiction is also cool, some of them help your gh - growth hormone (somatropin) - levels considerably.

Agreed re: 14ers and hiking in general as good exercise. I did Pikes Peak 2 weekends ago since I was "trapped" in Denver over the weekend on business. Big difference compared to New England mountains.

As far as quitting weed... go away on business trips regularly. I don't carry and don't smoke when on the road so I get a good 2 weeks off every month, sometimes 3... at least Monday through Friday. I go home most weekends even if it means a red-eye Friday night with a flight back out on Sunday. Weed's much more enjoyable after a bit of clean out.

 

[Nathan]

I don't understand... Why does a guy at your age who looks like you do have self esteem problems? As the old saying goes youth is wasted on the young...

Either learn to use weed socially or for appetite. If you can't stop all together and save your money on CLA and b12 for appetite.

I'm not getting down on you because I'm the same way with beer. I could be drunk and not even know it... So I stopped drinking all together several years ago.

The horrible thing your doing to yourself is sitting there boored smoking weed and knowingly causing yourself help problems... But continuing to do it anyway. The best thing your body is telling you right now is that weed is disgusting. This will help you quit. But once you quit you need to stop entirely or atleast use weed sparingly.

What? How do I have self esteem problems? I'm way fucking full of myself these days don't you worry. I just deleted like 45 things I wrote because they all made me sound like an egomaniac.

I smoke pot for my own reasons. It just isn't working anymore. Mother fucker.

SHIT. I just remembered a huge hash connect I found on the weekend. Nevermind. Bots will do the trick.

 

[Nathan]

Agreed re: 14ers and hiking in general as good exercise. I did Pikes Peak 2 weekends ago since I was "trapped" in Denver over the weekend on business. Big difference compared to New England mountains.

As far as quitting weed... go away on business trips regularly. I don't carry and don't smoke when on the road so I get a good 2 weeks off every month, sometimes 3... at least Monday through Friday. I go home most weekends even if it means a red-eye Friday night with a flight back out on Sunday. Weed's much more enjoyable after a bit of clean out.

Got one of those at the end of the month. We'll see.

Seriously, what does low self esteem have to do with anything? I'm dying to know.

 

[jerkbox]

pick up some involved hobbies bro....you'd be suprised how much time you can piss away researching them forums....oh....wait

 

[roadwarrior]

Got one of those at the end of the month. We'll see.

Seriously, what does low self esteem have to do with anything? I'm dying to know.

I don't know about the self esteem thing. Not an issue for me either. I think some of the thinking is that substance abuse can hide many other issues but as you know, that's different than substance use. Weed is a good relaxer if used in moderation and at the right time. I'm 48 and have smoked since I was a teenager though I would strongly discourage any one who is immature and/or not fully developed physically and mentally to use any recreational drugs as they can and do effect the maturation process and decision making skills. I know that I should not have done all the drugs that I did from 12 to 23 or so. I probably would have turned out different if I had stayed clean. I only smoke weed now... no more of the real destructive stuff in over 20 years and no alcohol for a long time too. But an adult who works hard and does does not want the many negative effects of alcohol... puff away when relaxing at the end of a hard day.

 

[Phaded]

the only thing i've ever been really addicted too is the computer.. the only problems ill have from that is eyesight which then ill get lasik..

prob. have spent an average of 50 hours a week on the computer last 4 years of my life..

 

[KillahBee]

Weed sucks now.

 

[Nathan]

I don't know about the self esteem thing. Not an issue for me either. I think some of the thinking is that substance abuse can hide many other issues but as you know, that's different than substance use. Weed is a good relaxer if used in moderation and at the right time. I'm 48 and have smoked since I was a teenager though I would strongly discourage any one who is immature and/or not fully developed physically and mentally to use any recreational drugs as they can and do effect the maturation process and decision making skills. I know that I should not have done all the drugs that I did from 12 to 23 or so. I probably would have turned out different if I had stayed clean. I only smoke weed now... no more of the real destructive stuff in over 20 years and no alcohol for a long time too. But an adult who works hard and does does not want the many negative effects of alcohol... puff away when relaxing at the end of a hard day.

I concur. I am smoking for self-medication reasons. It has nothing to do with low esteem though. Point out the hottest girl you can find, and I'm right there working my angles, well on my way to getting shut down....actually to keep with the non-low self esteem vibe I'll concede that I never really think I'll get shut down these days and it wouldn't hurt me if I did. So there. I don't even care if it's true, just by convincing myself of it I'm good to go. In my mind, there is no greater threat to the female population. HI PULL MY FINGER. Who's got an ego now? This guy, that's who.

 

[Phaded]

I concur. I am smoking for self-medication reasons. It has nothing to do with low esteem though. Point out the hottest girl you can find, and I'm right there working my angles, well on my way to getting shut down....actually to keep with the non-low self esteem vibe I'll concede that I never really think I'll get shut down these days and it wouldn't hurt me if I did. So there. I don't even care if it's true, just by convincing myself of it I'm good to go. In my mind, there is no greater threat to the female population. HI PULL MY FINGER. Who's got an ego now? This guy, that's who.

if you lived in florida you could train me as a hobby.. i'd pay large dividends.. i need like a nutrionalist/trainer someone pushing me to eat and train proper..

my life sucks.

 

[Nathan]

if you lived in florida you could train me as a hobby.. i'd pay large dividends.. i need like a nutrionalist/trainer someone pushing me to eat and train proper..

my life sucks.

Dude, I'd be all over it. And then I'd go off and introduce myself to every pretty girl in your gym cause I'm a complete jackass like that and I'm totally in that mood right now - you might get at least a good laugh or two out of it too when I go after the ones who are like WHO THE FUCK IS THIS WEIRDO and rebuff me before I even get 5 feet from em. It'd keep me entertained for a couple hours though. One of the few percs of bouncing - eventually I clued in I was being paid $10 an hour to get punched at so was like fuck this, I WORK FOR NATE. Nah, I was good at my job when I thought it was merited.

 

[gjohnson5]

You tone has done a 180 from this post...
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/7544693-post1.html

1.

The only real reason for this is so that I can actually get high again.

The original reason does not sound like self medication at all. it sounds like you have an addiction and just want to get your fix... if this were for self medication reasons , Getting high would have nothing to with the reasons you are doing the drug


2. How do you have a self esteem problem?

After bouts of too much smoking from boredom, I get seriously disgusted with myself

Definitly sounds like a self estreem problem to me... Someone who was really high on them self wouldn't be boored sitting at home by themselves and doing drugs

3. This doesn't sound like someone who is asking for help???
I guess I just misread this below.

Obviously I need to get my hands on some other form of drug. Or I need to occupy myself. But how? Oh fuck. Help me.

Whatever... It sounds to me you need to find another way to medicate like seeing a doctor
my .02

What? How do I have self esteem problems? I'm way fucking full of myself these days don't you worry. I just deleted like 45 things I wrote because they all made me sound like an egomaniac.

I smoke pot for my own reasons. It just isn't working anymore. Mother fucker.

SHIT. I just remembered a huge hash connect I found on the weekend. Nevermind. Bots will do the trick.

 

[Phaded]

Dude, I'd be all over it. And then I'd go off and introduce myself to every pretty girl in your gym cause I'm a complete jackass like that and I'm totally in that mood right now - you might get at least a good laugh or two out of it too when I go after the ones who are like WHO THE FUCK IS THIS WEIRDO and rebuff me before I even get 5 feet from em. It'd keep me entertained for a couple hours though. One of the few percs of bouncing - eventually I clued in I was being paid $10 an hour to get punched at so was like fuck this, I WORK FOR NATE. Nah, I was good at my job when I thought it was merited.

lol chicks love confidence.. i'd give you mad props if you went up to the bitches in the gym and just struck up conversation.. not to mention i live right by ucf so my gym is completely crowded with hotties..

 

[Gambino]

i love blazing
though i haven't for a few days, and won't be able to again untill next week when i get home
i'm an addickt, but i can go long periods without my fix

 

[Smurfy]

lumberg says lexapro

 

[bones1435]

wow, how about some self control man. Just say no. (Do i get to call myself a recovering addict after one AA/NA meeting?)

 

[needtogetaas]

nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

 

[bones1435]

oh what the hell do YOU know......

 

[heavy_duty]

I traded in weed/hash and blow for martial arts a couple decades ago.
we use to buy 28 grams and smoke it all in 3 days (2 guys) we smoked due to boredom.

smoke - eat - relax - repeat ....did that for 10 years...

go see Jeff J. kick him in the balls then give him some money tell him you want to learn bjj. He's the coolest dude in H.

I might try not smoking any weed at all for the next few days. The only real reason for this is so that I can actually get high again. Also, my lungs feel fucking disgusting after this past weekend. I'm seriously grossed out by myself. After bouts of too much smoking from boredom, I get seriously disgusted with myself. I have yet to go days without it - or even a day for that matter - but I am holding out hope. Obviously I need to get my hands on some other form of drug. Or I need to occupy myself. But how? Oh fuck. Help me.

 

[Nathan]

lol chicks love confidence.. i'd give you mad props if you went up to the bitches in the gym and just struck up conversation.. not to mention i live right by ucf so my gym is completely crowded with hotties..

Dude, in a second. I'm in that mood these days - any girl you point out I'll go up to. And I always start with a joke (it's just they aren't always funny). Fly me down and we'll have some fun. I'm bored.

What is lexapro? Yeah, it's an addiction I guess. Oh well. Only when I'm not home I don't need it. It's a routine I am trying to break - I have broken it before I just need a stimulus. I also get locked into training routines and school routines so this whole penchant for "routines" does pay off in certain walks of life. In others, not so much.

See, self-control is a tricky thing. You can look at me and point your finger all you want but I find whenever I gain "control" over one aspect of my life (or feel like I am), I slip in another aspect.

I'm all over the map right now. Guys, I'm all over the place with EVERYTHING. Somebody should do a study on me for the next couple months - some seriously curious shit is going to go down. Hopefully this time I won't have laid waste to, like, my whole life when I come out the other end.

I'm still sober but I'm slipping fast. I finished this paper for publication this afternoon (save three references I have to find), went to the gym and did some heavy squats to hopefully tire myself out, ran a couple errands, got home and scrubbed the shower floor, then had a shower. I'm sitting here trying not to do anything stupid. If I smoke, that might happen.

And I can't stop typing. But hey, it's something to do.

 

[JayC9]

Obviously I need to get my hands on some other form of drug. /QUOTE]
Opium is the consummate mellow.

 

[heatherrae]

I don't understand... Why does a guy at your age who looks like you do have self esteem problems? As the old saying goes youth is wasted on the young...

Either learn to use weed socially or for appetite. If you can't stop all together and save your money on CLA and b12 for appetite.

I'm not getting down on you because I'm the same way with beer. I could be drunk and not even know it... So I stopped drinking all together several years ago.

The horrible thing your doing to yourself is sitting there boored smoking weed and knowingly causing yourself help problems... But continuing to do it anyway. The best thing your body is telling you right now is that weed is disgusting. This will help you quit. But once you quit you need to stop entirely or atleast use weed sparingly.

I couldn't agree more!


My mom smoked pot like that all the time, nathan. She died an excruciating death from lung cancer that spread everywhere.

 

[Gambino]

marijuana has never been linked to cancer of any kind

 

[heatherrae]

marijuana has never been linked to cancer of any kind

No one has had the funding to do so.

It hasn't been disproved that it causes cancer either.

Let's use our common sense, huh? Taking hot dirty smoke full of tar and crap into your lungs can't be good.

 

[Gambino]

No one has had the funding to do so.

It hasn't been disproved that it causes cancer either.

Let's use our common sense, huh? Taking hot dirty smoke full of tar and crap into your lungs can't be good.

she smoked cigs correct?

 

[heatherrae]

she smoked cigs correct?

hardly any. She lit them and would put them in the ash tray and forget about them. She smoked pot way more.

You are giving the same argument that the cig companies did. There are other causes of lung cancer, so that must have been it and not the cigarettes.

I know what killed my mother.

 

[Gambino]

hardly any. She lit them and would put them in the ash tray and forget about them. She smoked pot way more.

You are giving the same argument that the cig companies did. There are other causes of lung cancer, so that must have been it and not the cigarettes.

I know what killed my mother.

maybe you do know, but the scientific community has never linked weed to cancer
hard arguement to make, since she did smoke

 

[Nathan]

No one has had the funding to do so.

It hasn't been disproved that it causes cancer either.

Let's use our common sense, huh? Taking hot dirty smoke full of tar and crap into your lungs can't be good.

Did you mom smoke regular cigarettes? I know how bad it is though. That's why I want to start or get going with the vaporizer - it's like fucking $350 for a great one though. My birthday is coing up and I could beg my folks. Maybe...

The good thing about stopiing is that allegedly your chances of getting sick go way down afterwards. Plus, both my parents have been been a pack-a-day smokers for like 35+ years and are still alright. I'm sure they'll be fucked if they stop or something else doesn't get them eventually, but that's a fucking long-ass time.

 

[calveless wonder]

Did you mom smoke regular cigarettes? I know how bad it is though. That's why I want to start or get going with the vaporizer - it's like fucking $350 for a great one though. My birthday is coing up and I could beg my folks. Maybe...

The good thing about stopiing is that allegedly your chances of getting sick go way down afterwards. Plus, both my parents have been been a pack-a-day smokers for like 35+ years and are still alright. I'm sure they'll be fucked if they stop or something else doesn't get them eventually, but that's a fucking long-ass time.

get the vapir one...it's like 150 bucks. digital, it's awesome.

i have it, although sometimes its annoying to break up the buds...heat up the machine etc. when i don't, i smoke blunts (usually with my friends) or after a night out

the high is MUCH cleaner. i'm guessing you're one of those people who can function and do everything high. i'm not one of those people. if i smoke out of a blunt or a bong i'm glued to the catch or making stupid decisions. even worse, i get paranoid and insecure as hell half the time

 

[Nathan]

get the vapir one...it's like 150 bucks. digital, it's awesome.

i have it, although sometimes its annoying to break up the buds...heat up the machine etc. when i don't, i smoke blunts (usually with my friends) or after a night out

I was at the hemp shop today - I bet it's way cheaper online. The good one is called....I forget but I remember it is the competitor for the Volcano and is better.

 

[heatherrae]

Did you mom smoke regular cigarettes? I know how bad it is though. That's why I want to start or get going with the vaporizer - it's like fucking $350 for a great one though. My birthday is coing up and I could beg my folks. Maybe...

The good thing about stopiing is that allegedly your chances of getting sick go way down afterwards. Plus, both my parents have been been a pack-a-day smokers for like 35+ years and are still alright. I'm sure they'll be fucked if they stop or something else doesn't get them eventually, but that's a fucking long-ass time.

My dad used to smoke 4 packs of cigs a day. He quit 20 years ago. They say that your lungs have amazing ability for cell renewal and can clean up.

Consider quitting for your health. Even risking a death like that of cancer is just unthinkable.

I don't have any moral qualms with pot. I just don't want to ever see another wonderful person suffer with cancer.

 

[stilleto]

I might try not smoking any weed at all for the next few days. The only real reason for this is so that I can actually get high again. Also, my lungs feel fucking disgusting after this past weekend. I'm seriously grossed out by myself. After bouts of too much smoking from boredom, I get seriously disgusted with myself. I have yet to go days without it - or even a day for that matter - but I am holding out hope. Obviously I need to get my hands on some other form of drug. Or I need to occupy myself. But how? Oh fuck. Help me.

do you want me to hold it for you for safe keeping?


a few more weeks and i'm going to
uh.
i'm going to need some visine.

 

[Nathan]

I traded in weed/hash and blow for martial arts a couple decades ago.
we use to buy 28 grams and smoke it all in 3 days (2 guys) we smoked due to boredom.

smoke - eat - relax - repeat ....did that for 10 years...

go see Jeff J. kick him in the balls then give him some money tell him you want to learn bjj. He's the coolest dude in H.

It's the whole giving him some money thing I think have a problem with. Not saying I shouldn't pay the guy for his time I guess I'm just not used to that sort of training relationship. Nevermind.


Heather - I hear you and appreciate the snetiment. For my b-day I'll ask for a vaporizer.

 

[Spartacus]

I don't understand... Why does a guy at your age who looks like you do have self esteem problems? As the old saying goes youth is wasted on the young...

Either learn to use weed socially or for appetite. If you can't stop all together and save your money on CLA and b12 for appetite.

I'm not getting down on you because I'm the same way with beer. I could be drunk and not even know it... So I stopped drinking all together several years ago.

The horrible thing your doing to yourself is sitting there boored smoking weed and knowingly causing yourself help problems... But continuing to do it anyway. The best thing your body is telling you right now is that weed is disgusting. This will help you quit. But once you quit you need to stop entirely or atleast use weed sparingly.

well said

 

[superqt4u2nv]

Nate did you smoke all the way through contest prep?

 

[Nathan]

Nate did you smoke all the way through contest prep?

Yeppers.

 

[heavy_duty]

Yeppers.