I Saw "The Passion of the Christ" Tonight.

[cccp]

yeah, atomic punk, you are right. I just watched this movie tonight, and it did not live up to my expectations. It sucked. Don't see what all the fuss was about. How much money do you think Gibson will make on it?

 

[75th]

Again, Jesus performed many miracles throughout his life, the movie is based on the last 3 days that he lived, nothing more.

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The last 12 hours actually.

I personally thought the this film was an amazing piece of cinematic material. It is wrong to blame Gibson for the film being too shallow, violent, or not spending enough time talking about the teachings of Jesus, etc.

The last 12 hours, hence the title "The Passion" which doesnt refer to love or tolerance, but the phrase actually refers to pain and indignity suffered for a good cause. I think that may be where people got bushwacked: they saw the title "The Passion" and immediately an image of Jesus turning sand into bread for starving children was conjured in their mind. When you think about it the title basically says it all: "The Torture and Punishment of the Christ."

 

[Jandy]

What bugged me was the fact that they nailed him through his palms, Jesus was nailed by his wrists. I think the movie showed it that way because the religion Mel Gibson follows is very old and unbending and unwilling to accept new findings, such as the fact that Jesus was nailed through his wrists (human palms could not withstand gravity pulling on them like that, and would have ripped)

 

[Robert Jan]

Yall make it sound like there ever actually was a Jesus....

 

[Robert Jan]

bump

 

[curling]

Again, Jesus performed many miracles throughout his life, the movie is based on the last 3 days that he lived, nothing more.

QUOTE]

The last 12 hours actually.

I personally thought the this film was an amazing piece of cinematic material. It is wrong to blame Gibson for the film being too shallow, violent, or not spending enough time talking about the teachings of Jesus, etc.

The last 12 hours, hence the title "The Passion" which doesnt refer to love or tolerance, but the phrase actually refers to pain and indignity suffered for a good cause. I think that may be where people got bushwacked: they saw the title "The Passion" and immediately an image of Jesus turning sand into bread for starving children was conjured in their mind. When you think about it the title basically says it all: "The Torture and Punishment of the Christ."

Very good thread 75th'er.

Check out Concise Dictionary definition of "passion"

passion - n. 1, A powerful emotion or appetite. 2. a. Ardent love b. strong sexual desire lust. 3. boundless enthusiam (now check out number 4 I never knew this) 4. PASSION tge sufferings of Christ following the last supper inclucding the Crucifixion.

Isn't that a trip I never knew that did ya'll?

 

[napolean22]

The Da Vinci Code and The Order are both works of fiction and are intended to be received that way. These 'facts' you say keep popping up do not have any historical basis. People have been trying for years to disprove the Bible with history and it has not been done once.

What historical basis does the bible have...other than a bunch of really old and dead people saying this was what happened. Besides, the bible was written years after Jesus had come and gone. I'm not trying to disprove the bible, I'm just saying that some things were left out...which makes certain parts fuzzy/confusing/mis-leading.

Jesus did not marry or have children or even engage in sexual relations at all. The entire purpose of his life was to redeem humanity.

How do you know? Because the bible says? Is it impossible for you to believe that certain accounts were left out of the bible for different reasons (political/ethnical/etc)?

However, one cannot pick and chose part of the Bible to believe or not. If you take away parts you run into problems in other places.

Thanks, now you are arguing my case. Except it should read like this...


However, one cannot pick and chose part of the "past" to believe or not. If you take away parts you run into problems in other places.


Thank you for your time, I hope these html tags work like I had planned. Again let me say, I am not trying to discredit the bible, I am just a believer in that some things were left out.

 

[JuicePimp]

What historical basis does the bible have...other than a bunch of really old and dead people saying this was what happened. Besides, the bible was written years after Jesus had come and gone. I'm not trying to disprove the bible, I'm just saying that some things were left out...which makes certain parts fuzzy/confusing/mis-leading.

Well, I could quote you to ask how you KNOW some things were left out, but that would not really get us anywhere. I will concede that some things are missing, for example Jesus whole childhood past him teaching in the temple when he was young is not included. But the reason for the exclusions of this sort is not to alter the message, but to allow focus to be placed on the important aspects of Jesus' ministry.

refering the the fact that Jesus did not marry

How do you know? Because the bible says? Is it impossible for you to believe that certain accounts were left out of the bible for different reasons (political/ethnical/etc)?

It is impossible to accept, because that fact if true would destroy the point of Jesus' death as a pure sacrifice. Thus, its is not a matter of knowing, it is a matter of accepting it on faith. If Jesus was not without sin, or was a liar, then what good would his death have been? It would have been an imperfect sacrifice, and thus not capable of the redemption for which it was done.

Believing is faith. Thus, so is the acceptance of the Bible as the cannon, believing that it is the inspired word of God. So to believers, the Bible is not the compliation of a bunch of dead men writing 60 yrs after the death of Christ, but it is divinely inspired. What is included is what God though was important for his followers to know. Thus, even though what is included in our present Bible was decided by counsels of men, believers believe that they were guided by God.

 

[napolean22]

...Thus, even though what is included in our present Bible was decided by counsels of men, believers believe that they were guided by God.

Kind of like the counsels of men who make up the Roman Catholic Church. The kind of men that think being a pedaphile is ok...ok as long as they ask for forgiveness right after. Are these men guided by god?

Trivia Time...What do all three of these men have in common?
David Koresh (only because he is the most famous cult leader)
Peter Sutcliffe (serial killer)
Joseph Kallinger (serial killer)

If you said they could all bench over 300lbs, you'd be wrong. But if you said that they were "guided by God"...then you'd be correct.

 

[BO-DEN]

Yall make it sound like there ever actually was a Jesus....

you act like there wasn't


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