i personally think we should all stop recommending...

[XBiker]

oh yeah.. and for all those saying.. "a first timer will definitely be able to grow on 500mg"... i know that.. i understand they'll grow...

all i'm saying is that i think the difference in gains between 500mg and 750mg is immense.. at 500mg i can see a change in my physique if i look in the mirror once a week.. at 750mg.. i can see a change daily.. i love that.. i love seeing that change daily.. i need it..

i like it.. i love it.. i want some more of it..

You may joke or think it's funny, but I recall the first time I saw Conan's site.

He recommends doing insane amounts of testosterone. Then I thought to myself, what if a newbie saw all this disinformation and decided that a gram of test a week would do a body good?

People would start disappearing again, like D*P G*r* did.

Get it?

 

[Vitaman]

My 2 cents in here would still have newbies stay at the 500mg/week level. As they venture on into future cycle then increase the dosages once they see how they react to steroids.
I too made great gains only using 500mg/week in a second cycle.

 

[the_Pikey]

500 mg a week of test for newbs is FINE.

There is no need at that point to move to 750.

I personally got great results for my first FEW cycles at 500mg a week.
And I know many others who did also.


No need whatsoever to move to 750mg until after you have been using for a while.

 

[decem]

You may joke or think it's funny

yeah.. uh.. i wasn't joking.. or thinkin it was funny..

 

[b18cvx]

i wish i would have went up to 750 from 500 on my sus only cycle, i thought the gear was fake until like the 5th week, i would have liked to seen some results a little quicker i gained a peak 20 lbs and have kept about 12. i think dosage also depends on what else you are stacking with it. i feel like a test only cycle would be ok at a little higher dosage if you werent doing a crazy stack. jmho.
tYler

 

[Ulter]

Decem is absolutely correct. It is a waste of your virgin cycle to use 500mg of AAS or less. You only get one shot at growing like you will on your first cycle and that's a fact. Anyone who is going to take the time to train and eat right and stick needles in their ass should do so with enough AAS in the syringe so they can attain maximum growth. I do not think anyone should start their first cycle frontloading 1000mg of test. This is stupid when you don't know how your body reacts to test, or anything else for that matter. A newbie should take 250mg the first two weeks and see what happens in terms of BP, nip swelling, etc. If all is well then go up to 750mg-1000mg and stay there for the remainder of the cycle. Same thing with Deca if you are adding that to your test. Try a little first. Then go up.

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[the rock]

my first cycle was 500 mgs of sust for 8 weeks, iwas eating at least 200 grams of protien a day and training hard and at the end all i really gained was like 6-7 pounds of water retention-it sucked didnt compair to my next deca d-bol cycle where i gained 23 pounds

 

[decem]

i think dosage also depends on what else you are stacking with it.

oh yeah.. thanks for pointing that out tyler.. i just wanted to say that i agree with completely.. and it does matter what you're stacking it with..


and let me just say "HOLY CRAP!!"... ulter.. are you sick bro? how come you're agreeing with me.. there's gotta be a hitch.

 

[Behemoth]

great results of 500mg test.....

whassup Decem......

This was my first cycle...and its coming to a close. Ive lost ten pounds of fat and put on nearly 30 pounds of muscle. I was a pretty big boy to start with...but I was well pleased with my results.

The catch is I was seeing good results at 250mg....but many encouraged me to up that to 500mg. The effect of increasing the test was incredible. But again this was my first.....definitely not my last.


Thanks Decem for all your help bro.....

 

[decem]

Re: great results of 500mg test.....

1. whassup Decem......

2. Ive lost ten pounds of fat and put on nearly 30 pounds of muscle.

3. I was a pretty big boy to start with...but I was well pleased with my results.

4. The effect of increasing the test was incredible.

5. Thanks Decem for all your help bro.....

1. nuttin..
2. that's fucking awesome results bro.. outstanding.. congrats.
3. yes.. you are definitely a big mofo..
4. absolutely.. wait until you hit 750mg.. oh man.. .. but then i'm sure there's also a point where the higher you go the less results and more sides you see..
5. no problem man.. anytime.