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Hypnopompic Sleep Paralysis

its a safety mechanism we all have in ourselves that keep us from moving so animals wont attack us in our sleep.
 
bigmann245 said:
its a safety mechanism we all have in ourselves that keep us from moving so animals wont attack us in our sleep.

Close. Sleep Paralysis is a safety mechanism. HSP is a disorder of the mechanism. You come out of a stage of rem too quickly causing your brain to wake up before your body stops the safety mechanism(='s awake but skeletal muscle still paralized) and also causes you to bring your unfinished dream with you(='s seeing SCARY shit). It only lasts between 30 seconds and 8 minutes but it still ain't right.
 
myway said:
Close. Sleep Paralysis is a safety mechanism. HSP is a disorder of the mechanism. You come out of a stage of rem too quickly causing your brain to wake up before your body stops the safety mechanism(='s awake but skeletal muscle still paralized) and also causes you to bring your unfinished dream with you(='s seeing SCARY shit). It only lasts between 30 seconds and 8 minutes but it still ain't right.


you need to lay off the acid girl
 
myway said:
Close. Sleep Paralysis is a safety mechanism. HSP is a disorder of the mechanism. You come out of a stage of rem too quickly causing your brain to wake up before your body stops the safety mechanism(='s awake but skeletal muscle still paralized) and also causes you to bring your unfinished dream with you(='s seeing SCARY shit). It only lasts between 30 seconds and 8 minutes but it still ain't right.
I had that as a child. Not fun. I would try not to sleep for days. I was always exhausted.
 
heatherrae said:
I had that as a child. Not fun. I would try not to sleep for days. I was always exhausted.

I have had it since I was about 6 or 7 years old. I usually avoid it with sleep meds(tons of them :rolleyes: ) but I can't have them since I'm pregnant. With my meds, it usually only happens about once or twice a year. Now, I just had 3 episodes in 2 days. Yikes. Maybe since I just had 3 they will go away for a month or 2. I hope so.
 
....and if someone gets on here and calls it a night terror, I'm gonna be sooo cranky. People always call it "night terrors". NOT the same thing at all.
 
myway said:
I'd be better if my doc would give me my drugs. Besides that, life's grand. How are you?


good, im at work now. oh btw the dean lifted my suspension and im allowed to take classes next semester. she understood why i dropped three classes last semester to take this job. plus i was in uniform and she couldn't resist...lol
 
BroToom said:
im told that large doses of cyanide will help cure this.
MAYBE! Hey, great idea. How about you conduct a study of this ON YOURSELF, record it, and leave a note for the recording to be submitted to ef so we can see your results.
 
bigmann245 said:
good, im at work now. oh btw the dean lifted my suspension and im allowed to take classes next semester. she understood why i dropped three classes last semester to take this job. plus i was in uniform and she couldn't resist...lol
Men in uniform PISS ME OFF. They always get their way. :rolleyes:
 
myway said:
I have had it since I was about 6 or 7 years old. I usually avoid it with sleep meds(tons of them :rolleyes: ) but I can't have them since I'm pregnant. With my meds, it usually only happens about once or twice a year. Now, I just had 3 episodes in 2 days. Yikes. Maybe since I just had 3 they will go away for a month or 2. I hope so.
The dreams while pregnant are crazy myway.

I dream about my mother every single night. I woke up and swore I saw her sitting in the chair at the foot of my bed (she died dec '05). The dreams are not bad dreams. They are just us doing stuff together like making dinner, just like she never died. I never had dreams about her until I got pregnant. I think because I'm going to be a mommy now, my subconscious is just stuck on her.
 
myway said:
MAYBE! Hey, great idea. How about you conduct a study of this ON YOURSELF, record it, and leave a note for the recording to be submitted to ef so we can see your results.

just tell me where to get the stuff and im on it.
 
myway said:
Men in uniform PISS ME OFF. They always get their way. :rolleyes:


yes we do :qt: i even get a discount at dunkin donuts. they think because of my uniform and the fact my badge has the Florida seal on it that im a cop. i just go with it. i go to the police academy October 1st. im looking forward to it.
 
heatherrae said:
The dreams while pregnant are crazy myway.

I dream about my mother every single night. I woke up and swore I saw her sitting in the chair at the foot of my bed (she died dec '05). The dreams are not bad dreams. They are just us doing stuff together like making dinner, just like she never died. I never had dreams about her until I got pregnant. I think because I'm going to be a mommy now, my subconscious is just stuck on her.

Those sound more pleasant. Mine are: evil "somethings" leaning over my bed, old, dead men/old women looking at me from my doorway, things sitting on my chest and sucking my life away, strange animals by my bed, and so on. I get the classic parts about not being able to move anything but my eyes. Can't scream for help, can't turn my head. Can't move at all. Then, it's gone. When it goes away, im still in my bed but I can move and the bad stuff is gone. It's a good way to scare a husband. He just sees my eyes darting back and forth until I snap out of it and turn on every light in the house.
 
bigmann245 said:
yes we do :qt: i even get a discount at dunkin donuts. they think because of my uniform and the fact my badge has the Florida seal on it that im a cop. i just go with it. i go to the police academy October 1st. im looking forward to it.

I fuggin' HATE cops..... o'wait...
 
BroToom said:
just tell me where to get the stuff and im on it.

I had another guy do something similar. I would tell you to go ask him about where he got the stuff but you would need to take a shovel.
 
myway said:
I had another guy do something similar. I would tell you to go ask him about where he got the stuff but you would need to take a shovel.


i dont mind digging :)
 
bigmann245 said:
yes we do :qt: i even get a discount at dunkin donuts. they think because of my uniform and the fact my badge has the Florida seal on it that im a cop. i just go with it. i go to the police academy October 1st. im looking forward to it.
And btw--- you might want to switch to pizza. Real cops are afraid of donuts. It has turned into 2much of the stereotype. Now, they eat pizza. LOTS of it. Do you think you can handle that? If so, you will be a great cop. Well, im sure u will be a great cop either way. Have fun.
 
You all are confusing sleep paralysis with hypnopompic hallucinations... hypnagogic hallucinations are much more fun, especially as a function of sleep depravation.
 
myway said:
And btw--- you might want to switch to pizza. Real cops are afraid of donuts. It has turned into 2much of the stereotype. Now, they eat pizza. LOTS of it. Do you think you can handle that? If so, you will be a great cop. Well, im sure u will be a great cop either way. Have fun.


no i go to dunkin donuts for the egg samiches. i love their egg and sausage with cheese on a croissant samiches.... :p
 
juiceddreadlocks said:
You all are confusing sleep paralysis with hypnopompic hallucinations... hypnagogic hallucinations are much more fun, especially as a function of sleep depravation.

I'm NOT confusing shit. And if you think hypnopompic or hypnagogic(one occurs when waking and the other happens when falling asleep) hallucinations are fun...... then you'd be a hard guy to scare. None of these have anything to do with night terrors. People don't remember night terrors. They wake up scared but can't remember why. Not trying to sound like a know-it-all but I have been going to docs for HSP for over 20 years. If you think they are FUN... good for you. I think they suck BAD.
 
BroToom said:
how is officer nate? have you beat him senseless lately?
He's doing just fine. Right now, he's a work. I beat him less and less every week. He's almost just how I want him.
 
myway said:
Those sound more pleasant. Mine are: evil "somethings" leaning over my bed, old, dead men/old women looking at me from my doorway, things sitting on my chest and sucking my life away, strange animals by my bed, and so on. I get the classic parts about not being able to move anything but my eyes. Can't scream for help, can't turn my head. Can't move at all. Then, it's gone. When it goes away, im still in my bed but I can move and the bad stuff is gone. It's a good way to scare a husband. He just sees my eyes darting back and forth until I snap out of it and turn on every light in the house.
Oh no, I haven't had those bad dreams since I was a child. Mine just went away.


I just meant that most women dream lots of crazy stuff when they are pregnant. You may end up having more dreams instead of fewer, unfortunately.
 
heatherrae said:
Oh no, I haven't had those bad dreams since I was a child. Mine just went away.


I just meant that most women dream lots of crazy stuff when they are pregnant. You may end up having more dreams instead of fewer, unfortunately.

I have been having more dreams. You know, normal dreams. A lot are about baby stuff or my dogs.
 
myway said:
Those sound more pleasant. Mine are: evil "somethings" leaning over my bed, old, dead men/old women looking at me from my doorway, things sitting on my chest and sucking my life away, strange animals by my bed, and so on. I get the classic parts about not being able to move anything but my eyes. Can't scream for help, can't turn my head. Can't move at all. Then, it's gone. When it goes away, im still in my bed but I can move and the bad stuff is gone. It's a good way to scare a husband. He just sees my eyes darting back and forth until I snap out of it and turn on every light in the house.


maybe hubby is playing tricks on you and dressing up. that would be one hell of a prank. lol
 
myway said:
I'm NOT confusing shit. And if you think hypnopompic or hypnagogic(one occurs when waking and the other happens when falling asleep) hallucinations are fun...... then you'd be a hard guy to scare. None of these have anything to do with night terrors. People don't remember night terrors. They wake up scared but can't remember why. Not trying to sound like a know-it-all but I have been going to docs for HSP for over 20 years. If you think they are FUN... good for you. I think they suck BAD.
I also was a sleep walker, myway. I ended up out in the snow twice in a nothing but a nightgown. I would do stuff like get up and brush my teeth, etc.
 
bigmann245 said:
maybe hubby is playing tricks on you and dressing up. that would be one hell of a prank. lol
Since I was about 6 years old? THAT WOULD take tallent. That WOULD be a cause of death for him.
 
heatherrae said:
I also was a sleep walker, myway. I ended up out in the snow twice in a nothing but a nightgown. I would do stuff like get up and brush my teeth, etc.
I only remember doing that once. I don't know wat would be worse.
 
myway said:
I only remember doing that once. I don't know wat would be worse.
The sleepwalking wasn't unpleasant.

The dreams and paralysis though were just out of this world. I was such a nervous kid because of them that I chewed one of my fingernails completely off. I was always biting my nails because I was nervous about night time and going to bed. All my fingers were always getting infected.

Thank GOD I don't have them anymore.

I had some woman take me aside and do a ritual on me (it was one of my dad's ex-wives' relative). Anyway, she did a ritual thing and then said to me, "you will never have those nightmares again." I don't know if it was the power of suggestion or she really did something magical, but I never did have those again.
 
heatherrae said:
The sleepwalking wasn't unpleasant.

The dreams and paralysis though were just out of this world. I was such a nervous kid because of them that I chewed one of my fingernails completely off. I was always biting my nails because I was nervous about night time and going to bed. All my fingers were always getting infected.

Thank GOD I don't have them anymore.

I had some woman take me aside and do a ritual on me (it was one of my dad's ex-wives' relative). Anyway, she did a ritual thing and then said to me, "you will never have those nightmares again." I don't know if it was the power of suggestion or she really did something magical, but I never did have those again.
THAT'S kinda trippy. Actually, that's HELLA trippy. I have heard about some people learning to control them and turning them into sexual experiences. My doc just gives me benzos. WTF-over! That does not seem fair AT ALL.
 
myway said:
THAT'S kinda trippy. Actually, that's HELLA trippy. I have heard about some people learning to control them and turning them into sexual experiences. My doc just gives me benzos. WTF-over! That does not seem fair AT ALL.

:heks:

omg it's true
 
myway said:
THAT'S kinda trippy. Actually, that's HELLA trippy. I have heard about some people learning to control them and turning them into sexual experiences. My doc just gives me benzos. WTF-over! That does not seem fair AT ALL.
Mine just stopped. I didn't turn them into sex dreams. I never really had sex dreams before I was prego. I maybe had 10 in my whole life before pregnancy.

Once I got pregnant I kept dreaming about sex with women, which is odd, because I consider myself to be completely straight. lol
 
heatherrae said:
Mine just stopped. I didn't turn them into sex dreams. I never really had sex dreams before I was prego. I maybe had 10 in my whole life before pregnancy.

Once I got pregnant I kept dreaming about sex with women, which is odd, because I consider myself to be completely straight. lol
lol. whoa.
 
myway said:
I'm NOT confusing shit. And if you think hypnopompic or hypnagogic(one occurs when waking and the other happens when falling asleep) hallucinations are fun...... then you'd be a hard guy to scare. None of these have anything to do with night terrors. People don't remember night terrors. They wake up scared but can't remember why. Not trying to sound like a know-it-all but I have been going to docs for HSP for over 20 years. If you think they are FUN... good for you. I think they suck BAD.
Actually I'm a registered sleep tech, have worked in neuroscience research, and work in the number 1 respiratory care hospital in the US, I think I've seen a parasomnia or two. :)
 
that would be hot if Heatherrae and myway monitored each others sleep patterns in between naked pillow fights
 
juiceddreadlocks said:
Actually I'm a registered sleep tech, have worked in neuroscience research, and work in the number 1 respiratory care hospital in the US, I think I've seen a parasomnia or two. :)
Yeah. I have 2 doc. uncles and one spends some time working at a sleep lab. He's done about 3 of my sleep studies. I think it would be hard to see 2many in a sleep lab since they are kinda unpredictable but maybe you got lucky a couple of times.
 
BroToom said:
that would be hot if Heatherrae and myway monitored each others sleep patterns in between naked pillow fights
I would have to be able to extend my arms past my belly to have a pillow fight. That is a lot of work right now!

You should have seen me clip my own toe nails last night! :worried:
 
heatherrae said:
I would have to be able to extend my arms past my belly to have a pillow fight. That is a lot of work right now!

You should have seen me clip my own toe nails last night! :worried:
Lol. I know! Last week, it was harder than usual to shave my legs. I usually put my leg up in front of me but it felt like my leg was pushing my belly up into my guts. Now, I gotta shave in other ways.
 
myway said:
Yeah. I have 2 doc. uncles and one spends some time working at a sleep lab. He's done about 3 of my sleep studies. I think it would be hard to see 2many in a sleep lab since they are kinda unpredictable but maybe you got lucky a couple of times.

Seen rem behavior disorder, that's about it... but learned a lot about them in neuro development and pathology, experimental neuro in undergrad. Wasnt trying to be condescending, but a lot of things are confused with sleep paralysis when you're jsut getting SOAP type notes from patients.
 
myway said:
Lol. I know! Last week, it was harder than usual to shave my legs. I usually put my leg up in front of me but it felt like my leg was pushing my belly up into my guts. Now, I gotta shave in other ways.
Wait until you can no longer see your cha cha to shave it...:lmao:

I had to shave it completely bare because there is NO WAY to bend to be able to see it to leave a landing strip...lol.
 
heatherrae said:
Wait until you can no longer see your cha cha to shave it...:lmao:

I had to shave it completely bare because there is NO WAY to bend to be able to see it to leave a landing strip...lol.

Yea. Tru dat. Just spend the money for a wax.
 
myway said:
Yea. Tru dat. Just spend the money for a wax.
God, I wouldnt' want to traumatize the poor waxer by seeing me that way right now...lol.
 
juiceddreadlocks said:
Seen rem behavior disorder, that's about it... but learned a lot about them in neuro development and pathology, experimental neuro in undergrad. Wasnt trying to be condescending, but a lot of things are confused with sleep paralysis when you're jsut getting SOAP type notes from patients.
No problem. I just hate it when people confuse it with a regular nightmare or night terror. It prolly wouldn't bother me so much but it has caused me to have a TON of scared, sleepless nights with days of exhaustion. I have spent several times over several years 2terrified to sleep or be alone at night. So when people think it's just a nightmare, it's like complaining to a starving person about just getting to eat a cheeseburger instead of a steak. I would happily take a nightmare ANY DAY. That's all.
 
myway said:
Close. Sleep Paralysis is a safety mechanism. HSP is a disorder of the mechanism. You come out of a stage of rem too quickly causing your brain to wake up before your body stops the safety mechanism(='s awake but skeletal muscle still paralized) and also causes you to bring your unfinished dream with you(='s seeing SCARY shit). It only lasts between 30 seconds and 8 minutes but it still ain't right.


i HAVE this with crazy vivid hallucinations. It is the scariest shit ever.
 
myway said:
Those sound more pleasant. Mine are: evil "somethings" leaning over my bed, old, dead men/old women looking at me from my doorway, things sitting on my chest and sucking my life away, strange animals by my bed, and so on. I get the classic parts about not being able to move anything but my eyes. Can't scream for help, can't turn my head. Can't move at all. Then, it's gone. When it goes away, im still in my bed but I can move and the bad stuff is gone. It's a good way to scare a husband. He just sees my eyes darting back and forth until I snap out of it and turn on every light in the house.


OMG. Same here. Crazy people ususally men laughing at me and wispering in my ear while others walk around the room.

I will go to scream ; and I cant get a word out, cant move anything, and a demon type figure is right above my face and laughing at me.

I struggle to move my arms but they wont work ; finally they do in a burst of movement and I run out of the room. Scared as shit that I am being posessed by a demon. How is that happening to me? lol. Crazy shit.

My limbs are also shrivled up into my body like they never worked (one hallucination I had)

Not fun! At first because of my religous upbringing ; I thought I was demon possessed.

I slept in my parents room sometimes at 20 while this was happening.

I have not had an episode in 4 years or so , but I am so stressed at work right now, I'm afraid I'll have another.!!!

Its cool to talk to someone who has been thru that. :heart:
 
This morning I was dreaming that I was spear fishing. I caught a red snapper and was leaving a blood trail. I looked up and a bull shark was above me. I was praying "please don't circle back" when it made a sharp turn and started circling and bumping. HOLY COW! I was trying to poke it with the spear gun in the nose but it was getting more excited because the damn fish was still on the end of the spear.

:worried:
 
I have nightmares and vivid dreams often but it sucks when you are awake, your eyes wide open ; LUCID ; but yet you are still dreaming.

I had an interesting dream last. This thread made me remember it lol
 
Speaking of hallucinations, I thought I saw my dead mother yesterday in my living room. I wasn't asleep, dreaming or anything. I was making a sandwich and turned around and thought I saw her standing in the living room. Then, poof, she was gone.

I think pregnancy makes you crazy.
 
cindylou said:
OMG. Same here. Crazy people ususally men laughing at me and wispering in my ear while others walk around the room.

I will go to scream ; and I cant get a word out, cant move anything, and a demon type figure is right above my face and laughing at me.

I struggle to move my arms but they wont work ; finally they do in a burst of movement and I run out of the room. Scared as shit that I am being posessed by a demon. How is that happening to me? lol. Crazy shit.

My limbs are also shrivled up into my body like they never worked (one hallucination I had)

Not fun! At first because of my religous upbringing ; I thought I was demon possessed.

I slept in my parents room sometimes at 20 while this was happening.

I have not had an episode in 4 years or so , but I am so stressed at work right now, I'm afraid I'll have another.!!!

Its cool to talk to someone who has been thru that. :heart:
Sometimes I won't have one for almost a year, then POOF! I will have several in a row. I have not slept for about 30something hours because I had 3 in 2 days. Now, I gotta work tonight. It sux bad. Good luck.
 
heatherrae said:
Speaking of hallucinations, I thought I saw my dead mother yesterday in my living room. I wasn't asleep, dreaming or anything. I was making a sandwich and turned around and thought I saw her standing in the living room. Then, poof, she was gone.

I think pregnancy makes you crazy.
Tru dat, sista.
 
myway said:
Sometimes I won't have one for almost a year, then POOF! I will have several in a row. I have not slept for about 30something hours because I had 3 in 2 days. Now, I gotta work tonight. It sux bad. Good luck.


aw man! I was hoping they were gone for good! Probably not huh? Guess I'm biding my time till my next episode. Sucks for you I'm sorry! I can relate to not wanting to go to sleep.


They say sleeping on your stomach helps, but you cant do that can you?

That could be why they've started up again? You have changed sleeping positions and now you sleep on your back?

Maybe its just an Indep. thing. lol!!

Did you ever get a good explanation for why this happens? I'd really like to know. Is it a physical or mental/ psychological thing?? Its creepy.
 
myway said:
Tru dat, sista.
This is going to sound very weird and superstitious, but sleep with a shirt on that covers your armpits.

As weird as it sounds, sleeping with exposed armpits contributes to those dreams.
 
cindylou said:
aw man! I was hoping they were gone for good! Probably not huh? Guess I'm biding my time till my next episode. Sucks for you I'm sorry! I can relate to not wanting to go to sleep.


They say sleeping on your stomach helps, but you cant do that can you?

That could be why they've started up again? You have changed sleeping positions and now you sleep on your back?

Maybe its just an Indep. thing. lol!!

Did you ever get a good explanation for why this happens? I'd really like to know. Is it a physical or mental/ psychological thing?? Its creepy.
It's prolly happening more because I can't take my sleep meds AND because I can't sleep on my stomach.
I have heard several reasons about why docs think it happens. Mostly a disfunction of the REM cycle causing people to wake up in the middle of a deep sleep period. But hell, I have even been told that I need to meditate because my chakras were out of line. WHF?!?!?!
I'm sure Indy life doesn't help the sittuation,lol.
 
myway said:
It's prolly happening more because I can't take my sleep meds AND because I can't sleep on my stomach.
I have heard several reasons about why docs think it happens. Mostly a disfunction of the REM cycle causing people to wake up in the middle of a deep sleep period. But hell, I have even been told that I need to meditate because my chakras were out of line. WHF?!?!?!
I'm sure Indy life doesn't help the sittuation,lol.


lol

as long as they are not actually demons/ghosts in the room I guess it does not matter. lol.
 
cindylou said:
lol

as long as they are not actually demons/ghosts in the room I guess it does not matter. lol.
Well, I have always managed to survive. As far as living in Indy in concerned, it goes back and forth between feeling like I'm trapped in a circus or a nightmare. I guess it depends on where I am in my work week.
 
myway said:
Close. Sleep Paralysis is a safety mechanism. HSP is a disorder of the mechanism. You come out of a stage of rem too quickly causing your brain to wake up before your body stops the safety mechanism(='s awake but skeletal muscle still paralized) and also causes you to bring your unfinished dream with you(='s seeing SCARY shit). It only lasts between 30 seconds and 8 minutes but it still ain't right.

and a much more common disfunction of that system, sleepwalking.
 
oh a good place to share a freaky anecdote. My highschool friend Paul lost his granddad b/c the old guy lived on a busy road and sleepwalked out in front of a car at 2:00am.
 
RottenWillow said:
and a much more common disfunction of that system, sleepwalking.
I only did that one time. It was scary because we had just moved the night before so when I woke up in a back bedroom of the new house----- I didn't know where I was. I guess my problem is safer than sleepwalking but sleepwalking didn't seem as scary. My friend's son was sleepwalking and he took a pee in the refridgerator.
 
myway said:
I only did that one time. It was scary because we had just moved the night before so when I woke up in a back bedroom of the new house----- I didn't know where I was. I guess my problem is safer than sleepwalking but sleepwalking didn't seem as scary. My friend's son was sleepwalking and he took a pee in the refridgerator.

I've had both. Sleepwalking a LOT as a kid, then some of paralysis thing in my late teens, but it never lasted more than 20 or so seconds, but hell yeah you're right it's scary. I'm 24 now and the fricking sleepwalking has come back. I hide things from myself while sleeping. PITA.
 
RottenWillow said:
I've had both. Sleepwalking a LOT as a kid, then some of paralysis thing in my late teens, but it never lasted more than 20 or so seconds, but hell yeah you're right it's scary. I'm 24 now and the fricking sleepwalking has come back. I hide things from myself while sleeping. PITA.
Hide things from yourself? That would suck. Especially if ur hiding money. It could be worse. Some people have sex with strangers and eat TONS of food while sleepwalking.
 
myway said:
Hide things from yourself? That would suck. Especially if ur hiding money. It could be worse. Some people have sex with strangers and eat TONS of food while sleepwalking.


that would suck. :worried:
 
myway said:
Hide things from yourself? That would suck. Especially if ur hiding money.

Did that more than once. Threw away my digicam, stole money on many occasions, and ate a bunch of ice cream once. I found the empty quart hidden in the back of my closet!
 
RottenWillow said:
and a much more common disfunction of that system, sleepwalking.
actually sleepwalking and REM have little to do with eachother, unless you're making some somewhat coordinated movements during an episode of RBD.
 
juiceddreadlocks said:
actually sleepwalking and REM have little to do with eachother, unless you're making some somewhat coordinated movements during an episode of RBD.

I believe I've already spoken to you about disagreeing with me in public, didnt I?
 
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