How to come back Advice ?

[No925]

Hey guy's

I am going to make a long story short.

2 years ago when in the best shape of my life , off cycle.

I ended up getting a herniated disc from getting my Daughter out of the bath.

1 month later I ended up with a blood clot in my arm.

The Dr Said it was most likely from Nolvadex but also could have been Effort induced thrombosis from vigorous exercise.

Anyway its been a while now and I am pretty much fully recovered from both injuries aside from some varicose and spider veins I will just get tatted over.

No I must say the last 2 years were hell. I gained 35 lbs and lost muscle.

Every time I look at my old picks it makes me sick how far I came and then how far I fell.

So I am back training again not as hard as I was before my injuries. But I miss my old body.

So I am back looking into a small cycle and I sold all my gear when I was injured .

What do you guys think would be my safest cycle with some proper gains ?

Of course Training and diet need to be in check . This is prob my 5th cycle but I been of around 3 yrs or so.

I am 6'2 220lbs right now and my body fat is prob close to 17% just guessing.

I was thinking some Prop but I figured I would get your opinions.

I respect and appreciate all input negative or positive. I have been putting a lot of thought into it and I just cant see me getting close to as jacked as I was without that extra edge that allowed me to push my self.

Thanks for any input you have.

Banks

 

[obsessedwliftin]

Bro first off glad you are getting back at it. Now i would have to recommend you train for a while before you run gear again. Your muscles have memory and will start coming back. Once you get yourself back into a little better shape. Like below 15% bf. Then i would look at running some gear.

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[muscleaddiction]

Bro first off glad you are getting back at it. Now i would have to recommend you train for a while before you run gear again. Your muscles have memory and will start coming back. Once you get yourself back into a little better shape. Like below 15% bf. Then i would look at running some gear.

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OWL has the right recommendation bro...muscle memory is a beautiful thing, train hard, eat clean, utilize some Creatine, BCAAs, good protein powder, PWO, and maybe a natty test booster and let your body rebound naturally first...then see where you are. PM me anytime for help...glad to do so, you, OWL, and I are pretty much same build!

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[tryna get hench]

Hey guy's

I am going to make a long story short.

2 years ago when in the best shape of my life , off cycle.

I ended up getting a herniated disc from getting my Daughter out of the bath.

1 month later I ended up with a blood clot in my arm.

The Dr Said it was most likely from Nolvadex but also could have been Effort induced thrombosis from vigorous exercise.

Anyway its been a while now and I am pretty much fully recovered from both injuries aside from some varicose and spider veins I will just get tatted over.

No I must say the last 2 years were hell. I gained 35 lbs and lost muscle.

Every time I look at my old picks it makes me sick how far I came and then how far I fell.

So I am back training again not as hard as I was before my injuries. But I miss my old body.

So I am back looking into a small cycle and I sold all my gear when I was injured .

What do you guys think would be my safest cycle with some proper gains ?

Of course Training and diet need to be in check . This is prob my 5th cycle but I been of around 3 yrs or so.

I am 6'2 220lbs right now and my body fat is prob close to 17% just guessing.

I was thinking some Prop but I figured I would get your opinions.

I respect and appreciate all input negative or positive. I have been putting a lot of thought into it and I just cant see me getting close to as jacked as I was without that extra edge that allowed me to push my self.

Thanks for any input you have.

Banks

Sorry to hear about your story bro wish you the best in your journey to regain your old body again
never give up!

 

[No925]

Ok I have been trying to Listen to you guys and my wife.

But I really want that extra edge you know ? Even for the placebo effect.

I have had my diet in check 80%

Been back training just not as hard as before. lighter weight higher reps and a lot of Calisthenics.

Now My friend is getting some and wants me to cycle with him.

What would be my safest bet ? I wanna get some Anavar and test or something to help with cutting and hardening.

Its not the gear I worry about its the PCT.

I got that blood clot before and they said it was most likely from the Nolvedex or Vigorous exercise.

My wife doesnt want me to use any more gear but man I so miss being jacked.

Anyone have any ideas of my safest bet for a little push ?


Thanks again.

 

[dylangemelli]

Ok I have been trying to Listen to you guys and my wife.

But I really want that extra edge you know ? Even for the placebo effect.

I have had my diet in check 80%

Been back training just not as hard as before. lighter weight higher reps and a lot of Calisthenics.

Now My friend is getting some and wants me to cycle with him.

What would be my safest bet ? I wanna get some Anavar and test or something to help with cutting and hardening.

Its not the gear I worry about its the PCT.

I got that blood clot before and they said it was most likely from the Nolvedex or Vigorous exercise.

My wife doesnt want me to use any more gear but man I so miss being jacked.

Anyone have any ideas of my safest bet for a little push ?


Thanks again.

i feel for you bro and i am very happy you are back at it, but your not ready for a cycle yet... you need to get some of your natty muscle back first... you will gain very quickly... 80% for your diet is not good enough either bro... you need to start getting back a set routine, get your body fat down and get everything going again and THEN start a cycle... since your experienced bro, its not going to take that long... i would say a month or two at the most... if you need some pump before the gym, get some n2amp and some ntkts... that will help you to get extra motivation... get yourself on track and then get started on a cycle... i would be glad to help you get started on a cycle but you need to do these other things first...

 

[RADAR]

everything Dylan mentioned is true , I can bet your problems were from the nova ,it's pure shit
get back in shape your muscle muscle memory will be in full force in about 2 months if your dedcicated.

 

[Judo Tom]

get on a great high protein diet
get on a great 'beginner' routine like starting strength or 5x5
buy a lot of good protein
train your ass off
sleep like a baby

save the gear until you hit a plateau. If you jump on the gear now you will be wasting it. its true and i hope you know that and do the right thing. hit the gym hard for a few months and when you stall jump back in if you want

for now i would just start taking unleashed. you will notice a difference and feel great.

 

[stevesmi]

muscle memory is a real thing.

you have guys who were benching 500... get injured and stop for months.. then they come back and 3 months later are back to benching 500.. when other guys at the gym are in there everyday and are still benching 300. so your body will remember the way you were before and you will quickly come back.

this is why guys in their teens should be lifting weights this way once they get older and if they take time away they will easily be able to come back. someone who never lifted in their life will struggle to gain muscle compared to someone like you

so get back in there and start busting your ass, set a goal. and you will be back to where you were before you know it.

 

[obsessedwliftin]

i feel for you bro and i am very happy you are back at it, but your not ready for a cycle yet... you need to get some of your natty muscle back first... you will gain very quickly... 80% for your diet is not good enough either bro... you need to start getting back a set routine, get your body fat down and get everything going again and THEN start a cycle... since your experienced bro, its not going to take that long... i would say a month or two at the most... if you need some pump before the gym, get some n2amp and some ntkts... that will help you to get extra motivation... get yourself on track and then get started on a cycle... i would be glad to help you get started on a cycle but you need to do these other things first...

I could not have put this better myself bro. This is great advice!

 

[muscleaddiction]

The last 4 replies from my true iron brothers Dylan, Radar, Steve, and OWL you should take to heart and follow with intensity, solid advice and don't let anyone change your mind no matter how tempting it is. Pick up some N2 Amp and/or N2KTS and supplement with that prior to hitting the weights, and you will have some phenomenal workouts and eat your way back to where you were bro...leave the gear for later.

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[No925]

Thanks guys. I know you are all right. It just sucks man. I mean when I got injured it was a dark hole. I pretty much neglected my body for the 2 yrs while recovering. Meaning eating what ever I wanted with no regard. And I could barely walk or sit let alone train.

Now I am 100% recovered and I have to fix it. Really I need to drop 10 lbs. As far as training as hard as before I am not sure my veins can handle it. I have some nasty spider veins and a few crazy varicose veins in my arm , Thinking a new Tatt ?

I will bust my ass off for a few months and see where it gets me. Thanks for looking out for me much respect from Canada.

 

[LOVEOZ]

Hey man,
I had a dvt in my leg. Scary shit. Anyway I have just started a cycle and I am sticking to hcgenn, post and unleashed for pct.
All prescribed serms such as nolva clomid heightens the risk of thrombosis. I say go for it and stock up on ntbm otc pct products.

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[No925]

Ok and I agree it is great advice. I am focusing on Diet and training. In the mean time I am getting my friend some gear.

Of course I will be getting some free gear out of the deal.

I am not going to use it now , I will wait at least a few months if ever.

But what would be my best bet ? The PCT is what scares me. Is there a small cycle I can get away with without PCT ? Or is there a safer PCT that will not cause blood clots ?

I am not just telling you what you want to hear. I respect your opinions and I agree with them.

But If I were to get some gear now and hold on to it for a few months and use it. Or decide not to and off it. What would it be ?

I have a bunch of PCT on hand I will prob never use because I do not want another blood clot.

Thanks again for everyones in put.

Banks

 

[dylangemelli]

Ok and I agree it is great advice. I am focusing on Diet and training. In the mean time I am getting my friend some gear.

Of course I will be getting some free gear out of the deal.

I am not going to use it now , I will wait at least a few months if ever.

But what would be my best bet ? The PCT is what scares me. Is there a small cycle I can get away with without PCT ? Or is there a safer PCT that will not cause blood clots ?

I am not just telling you what you want to hear. I respect your opinions and I agree with them.

But If I were to get some gear now and hold on to it for a few months and use it. Or decide not to and off it. What would it be ?

I have a bunch of PCT on hand I will prob never use because I do not want another blood clot.

Thanks again for everyones in put.

Banks

bro, its pretty clear your just going to do whatever you want here without listening to the good advice you were given...

so im going to give you advice on what you posted here... The fact that you would even ask about any cycle without a pct is just one more indication of the fact you are definitely not ready to be running anything... the fact that you don't already know that, that's a problem bro...

if you want to run something that requires a "lighter pct" then you can run SARMS, but your not going to run any sort of gear and not have to do a normal pct bro, thats not how it works... unless you want to get all fucked up... then you don't have to run a pct... otherwise, if you want to stay healthy (which I am assuming you do) then you have to run one...

 

[RADAR]

Agree with Dylan ,PCT is more important than the cycle it self.

 

[No925]

Ok I hear what everyone is saying. But right now I just got a bunch of T400 and Anavar.

Can i not take some safely ?

What about a low dose like 400mg of the T400 e/w plus like 40 mg of the var e/d ?

I can wait another month or so b4 I start.

I have my diet in check i am down to 205 lbs right now and training hard again.

What about pct can I skip it ? Anything I can take that will not induce clotting like the the Nova ?

It's too hard to have it and not take it. But I want to make sure I do it safe.

I am not looking to get huge just a little harder and leaner.

Give me some cycle and pct idea's and I will take my time and get everything in order and give it some time before I start.

Thanks again guy's Looking for some advice on my pct.

 

[dylangemelli]

Ok I hear what everyone is saying. But right now I just got a bunch of T400 and Anavar.

Can i not take some safely ?

What about a low dose like 400mg of the T400 e/w plus like 40 mg of the var e/d ?

I can wait another month or so b4 I start.

I have my diet in check i am down to 205 lbs right now and training hard again.

What about pct can I skip it ? Anything I can take that will not induce clotting like the the Nova ?

It's too hard to have it and not take it. But I want to make sure I do it safe.

I am not looking to get huge just a little harder and leaner.

Give me some cycle and pct idea's and I will take my time and get everything in order and give it some time before I start.

Thanks again guy's Looking for some advice on my pct.

bro, im not trying to be a dick to you but did you even read the prior posts... YOU CANT RUN A FUCKING AAS WITHOUT A PCT... WE ALREADY WENT THROUGH THIS! IF YOU NEED TO ASK THIS THEN YOU HAVE NO BUSINESS RUNNING A CYCLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

whatever you run, here's your pct
PCT
clomid 25/12.5/12.5/12.5
Unleashed/post cycle combo
forma stanzol...

 

[No925]

bro, im not trying to be a dick to you but did you even read the prior posts... YOU CANT RUN A FUCKING AAS WITHOUT A PCT... WE ALREADY WENT THROUGH THIS! IF YOU NEED TO ASK THIS THEN YOU HAVE NO BUSINESS RUNNING A CYCLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

whatever you run, here's your pct
PCT
clomid 25/12.5/12.5/12.5
Unleashed/post cycle combo
forma stanzol...

Yes , I know most say PCT is a must and I have never cycled without it. But you would be shocked how many guys around here never have used PCT or even know what it is.

Also back in the day no one used it. So do not say it can not be done.

But What I was looking for was a PCT that wont give me a blood clot again.

I am still fighting the urge , But If I do decide to use a cycle I wanted to hear what the safest PCT was.

Thanks for your reply

 

[dylangemelli]

Yes , I know most say PCT is a must and I have never cycled without it. But you would be shocked how many guys around here never have used PCT or even know what it is.

Also back in the day no one used it. So do not say it can not be done.

But What I was looking for was a PCT that wont give me a blood clot again.

I am still fighting the urge , But If I do decide to use a cycle I wanted to hear what the safest PCT was.

Thanks for your reply

anything can be done... its the consequences that come along with it... "back in the day" they did shit all fucked up...

 

[No925]

Ok I have a question.

What if I were to take 60 mg e/d for 6 weeks of Anavar.

Then get some Unleashed/post cycle combo
forma stanzol for PCT.

I mean I know most will say its not worth it but I am not trying to get much bigger just a little harder and burn a little fat.

I have Access to them so it is affordable.

They shouldn't shut me down so I wouldn't need crazy PCT ?

I am sure I am going to get mixed opinions on this but I would like to hear them.

What do you guy's think ?

Thanks

 

[Judo Tom]

6 weeks of var at 60mg will most likely dramatically lower your natural test production and you should plan on a full pct.

 

[No925]

6 weeks of var at 60mg will most likely dramatically lower your natural test production and you should plan on a full pct.

So you don't think the Unleashed/Post cycle and Forma Stanzol will cut it ?

 

[dylangemelli]

Ok I have a question.

What if I were to take 60 mg e/d for 6 weeks of Anavar.

Then get some Unleashed/post cycle combo
forma stanzol for PCT.

I mean I know most will say its not worth it but I am not trying to get much bigger just a little harder and burn a little fat.

I have Access to them so it is affordable.

They shouldn't shut me down so I wouldn't need crazy PCT ?

I am sure I am going to get mixed opinions on this but I would like to hear them.

What do you guy's think ?

Thanks

bro, if your saying anavar won't shut you down then you clearly have no idea what your talking about... it most certainly can and will shut you down... especially at a higher dosage... i don't see a problem with you running it solo but it will definitely cause shutdown... you should run hcgenerate alongside of it to help prevent it so you are not too shut down going in to pct... your pct is good... you could add a low dose of clomid to it as well but you definitely need a good strong pct with anavar... and you need supports... you need n2guard because anavar is toxic and will be harsh on the bp and liver... your research is a bit off here bro...

 

[No925]

bro, if your saying anavar won't shut you down then you clearly have no idea what your talking about... it most certainly can and will shut you down... especially at a higher dosage... i don't see a problem with you running it solo but it will definitely cause shutdown... you should run hcgenerate alongside of it to help prevent it so you are not too shut down going in to pct... your pct is good... you could add a low dose of clomid to it as well but you definitely need a good strong pct with anavar... and you need supports... you need n2guard because anavar is toxic and will be harsh on the bp and liver... your research is a bit off here bro...

Thanks for the good info.

I am just trying to get a good PCT that wont induce another blood clot.

 

[No925]

I respect your opinion. So you do you think taking 60mg of var daily for 6 weeks , With HCGenerate , Unleashed/Post cycle and Forma Stanzol , Will give me some hardening and fat loss with proper diet and be safe ?

You think I should run it at 60 mg e/d ?

How would you lay out the pct ?

Any recent coupon codes ?

Thanks a lot for your advice and time.

 

[dylangemelli]

I respect your opinion. So you do you think taking 60mg of var daily for 6 weeks , With HCGenerate , Unleashed/Post cycle and Forma Stanzol , Will give me some hardening and fat loss with proper diet and be safe ?

You think I should run it at 60 mg e/d ?

How would you lay out the pct ?

Any recent coupon codes ?

Thanks a lot for your advice and time.

anytime bro, im glad to help...

yes run it at 60mg... you could even bump to 80 the last few weeks if you are not experiencing any sides... the one other thing i would add that goes well with anavar is proviron... you don't have to but it would definitely enhance the hardening...

pct
clomid 25/12.5/12.5/12.5
unleashed/post cycle combo
forma stanzol

you will have a great recovery with this pct bro and i cannot forsee you having any blood clot issue...

i would hurry and get the unleashed/post cycle combo as it just came back in stock...

I would also run hcgenerate alongside anavar to ensure that you go in to pct not being too shutdown... also, you need to run n2guard alongside to protect your bp and liver bro... that's definitely something to watch with anavar...

coupon codes at needtobuildmuscle.com is needto139 and will save you 15% off and free shipping...

if you need anything else just let me know man!

 

[RADAR]

Ok I have a question.

What if I were to take 60 mg e/d for 6 weeks of Anavar.

Then get some Unleashed/post cycle combo
forma stanzol for PCT.

I mean I know most will say its not worth it but I am not trying to get much bigger just a little harder and burn a little fat.

I have Access to them so it is affordable.

They shouldn't shut me down so I wouldn't need crazy PCT ?

I am sure I am going to get mixed opinions on this but I would like to hear them.

What do you guy's think ?

Thanks

I bit my lip reading this, Bro Steroids were designed for hi level athletes, what you're looking for is a magic pill........ there ain't none!

 

[No925]

I bit my lip reading this, Bro Steroids were designed for hi level athletes, what you're looking for is a magic pill........ there ain't none!

No I don't believe in a magic pill. I know diet is key then training.

But nothing wrong with a little push. I am not some little kid.

I am 31 , I have used gear in the past , I am 6'2 205 at the moment and diet and training are in check.

I don't claim to know everything. I didn't mean Var wont shut me down I just didn't think it would be too harsh.

I don't want to get much bigger at all. I just want to get ripped again.

It will be a few months before I start and I will be ready by then.

What about some coupon codes ? I was going to message needto but didn't want to bother him he has to be so busy.

I appreciate Dylan and every ones input.

 

[dylangemelli]

No I don't believe in a magic pill. I know diet is key then training.

But nothing wrong with a little push. I am not some little kid.

I am 31 , I have used gear in the past , I am 6'2 205 at the moment and diet and training are in check.

I don't claim to know everything. I didn't mean Var wont shut me down I just didn't think it would be too harsh.

I don't want to get much bigger at all. I just want to get ripped again.

It will be a few months before I start and I will be ready by then.

What about some coupon codes ? I was going to message needto but didn't want to bother him he has to be so busy.

I appreciate Dylan and every ones input.

anytime bro...

needto139 will save you 15% off at ntbm and needto10 will save you 10% off at mrsupps

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