Re: How many of you here believe in God, but have turned your backs on him? Or have y
I've read the bible from cover to cover and sections of it multiple times. The Ten Commandments(original) is one of my all time favorite movies.
That said I've decided I really don't believe in God. At least not in the typical religious sense. I believe there are things beyond our comprehension. I do believe their is good and bad when you consider the human mind is capable of understanding the concept.
I'm 30 years old and I've just recently come to this conclusion.
A big part of me thinking the way I do now is based off history and logic.
For all the good religion does I believe more people have died in the name of religion than all non-religious based wars, many times over...correct me if I am wrong. I highly doubt it.
IMHO, any religion that believe's it's belief system is "the" way or only way is frankly, utterly assinine.
Let's use some brain cells and logic.
Back when man first discovered fire Christianity did not exist. Catholicism didn't exist. Islam was nowhere to be found.
Aren't all the humans that came before organized religion pretty much screwed? They didn't know any better. It didn't exist. The couldn't acknowledge Jesus Christ as lord and savior nor could they pray to Allah. I'd love to hear a logical argument against that. Maybe they get a free pass. YA, that's logical...EDITED IN

h, I forgot in the Christin viewpoint god created adam and eve. Well, at least some guy wrote it down many ages later and said it was so...
Next you have organized religion clashing from different parts of the world. We humans are greatly influenced by that around us and what we are exposed to. The younger, the bigger the impression made. Christians think they are right. By that line of thought Islam followers must be screwed. Islam thinks you're screwed. Catholics don't agree with either of you. I am using a couple very widely known organized religions to make my points for those wondering why I don't mention another of the myriad belief systems that abound.
If you look at the big picture either everyone is screwed or only a select few are right. That's just stupid. This isn't debating whether the world is flat. Where you grew up in the world or what nationality/ethnicity your parents have generally will influence what religion you believe in. Take a baby born in India and raise him in a christian house hold in America and that baby will grow into christian man 9 times out of 10. He may convert to Islam for one reason or another later in life, but where he grew up and who he was raised by was a massive influence on his belief system. Naturally, he believes his belief system is the right one.
The fact that there are hundreds, if not thousands of different belief systems completely contradicts science, logic and reason. 2+2 does not equal 5. Generally there tends to be a right way about something and a wrong way. Putting your right foot forward can never be putting your left foot forward. Your right hand is not your left hand. You screw something in clockwise and unscrew it counter clockwise. And don't bother listing stupid exceptions to my examples lol.
Next it comes down to "faith". Religious belief is one of the only things in this world that has no concrete physical verifiable data, whatsoever. If a man wanted me to hire him and the job position required him to speak Latin and he couldn't prove it by actually speaking it I would laugh and send him on his way. So I'm supposed to believe there is some all powerful deity floating up in space, better yet all around us and in every thing and knows all, sees all, logs it down in a super wide load 5 mile high leather tome the width of a couple football fields and just take it on "faith"?
Divine inspiration bugs me too. As far as I know all belief systems are written down and interpreted by man. Doesn't that leave the possibility that errors were made? Someone might use the 10 commandments as an example, but no tablets still exist. Perhaps Moses carved them? How can you prove otherwise? A few errors made here and there, a few translation/transcription errors as the centuries pass, a few changes on someone's whim and how do you even know what you believe is the same thing originally written. The King James bible( THE KING JAMES) bible is not the same as the original holy bible which in itself was a collection of separate divinely inspired writings. .. ....
Free will annoys me too. So God, or Jesus, or Allah or whoever allows man to commit the horrendous inhumanities to man because he gave us free will? That's not a very caring god to let millions, hundreds of millions, who knows how many over the course of known human history to die by each others hands. It's real fair for a babies head to be caved in by some african warlord. Hey, it's free will. I'm sure he'll get his tuppins cumupins in hell. Although I thought hell was full of evil demons and run by this really bad dude. Sounds like he would fit right in. Can't be all that bad? WTF?
How about natural disasters? Gods plan to hold back earth's population density? How do these fit in Gods plan. Couldn't he have made Earth earthquake and tsunami free? For a guy that is all powerful and can do anything I think he could have done a better job. Break the laws of physics several times over to do it. Shouldn't be a problem. Oh nope, but we are all sinners! Can't have us havin it too easy now. Riiiight.
How about repentance of sins? This is the stupidest shit I have ever heard of. Technically, you could be Hitler, genuinely realize all the atrocities that you commited and were done by your own hand and ask for forgiveness and feel general sorrow for your actions and be forgiven. REALLY.
I could go on, but I think that anyone with a reasonable IQ that legitimately looks around and tries to make up their own mind even if it means breaking deeply ingrained beliefs that have been pushed since birth, will come to the conclusion at the minimum that something is not quite right with religion. Then again the average man/woman is actually pretty stupid whether they realize it or not.
If I offended anyone tough shit. Guess I'll be getting raped by a train of donkey's for all eternity while choking on brimstone.
Probably not, though I admit I would probably laugh if that did happen, if even for a mere moment upon realization...