and how many people in your gym in St. Louis ---Las Vegas etc. sit on steroid board-----maybe one person in the gym---so I don't see your point-----I know personalily a national compt---that hits this site from time to time(he has never put his picture up) and never has to------why on earth does anyone need a cyber pat on the back-----Those are the sad ones(esp. the guys that talk open about gear and post their picture with no problems--not even hidding tatoos or the face)---my old gym out here in san diego probably had 35% of the people on gear-----were they all 9% a 225 of course not but their are more then I could count that were 9% or under---you see not all were tall-------hell Derik Farnsworth comes in at under 154@ 5'2(contest shape)4%----and on stage he would smoke everybody here out of the water---but 154 doesn't sound to impressive does it......but its a lot more impressive then a guy 6'4 230 at 9%-----atleast to me it is...peace
by the way --most of the people claiming to be 9% or under are over 225-and 6' or over-----(if you think thats big, you better hit the gym-----peace