see, it isnt anything against you, so don't take it that way. I see my aunt and how she raises her kids by 'respecting their feelings' and doing shit other than disciplining them, and they are fucking hell raisers. Seriously, if they were not possesed, I would be very surprised. I just tired of seeing bratty kids crying and carrying on in public and getting away with it, cause their parents will threaten them with timeout when they get home or no candy in the car. God dammit, if that was me, it would have been my ass. Time out and all that other stuff is complete bullshit. I'm not saying you have to beat your kids, but if you spank them it sends a clear message. It's not the pain that makes it bad, it is the fear of being spanked. It will not hurt their feelings, kill their psyche's, whatever. I promise you that spanking (NOT beating) your child will not cause him to wind up in therapy when they are older.