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burnthiscorpse

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Never used mast. But if someone were cutting and just using 250mg test wk to maintain mass while dropping fat and added mast p, what different would one notice between 100mg eod and 100mg ed?

Also I've heard it argued both ways but would someone at 15% get anything useful from this? Obviously the lower bf% the better with mast.
 
Burnthiscorpse said:
Never used mast. But if someone were cutting and just using 250mg test wk to maintain mass while dropping fat and added mast p, what different would one notice between 100mg eod and 100mg ed?

Also I've heard it argued both ways but would someone at 15% get anything useful from this? Obviously the lower bf% the better with mast.
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Age? Your bf now? 15%

Imo i would only use mastron when down 11% and below
 
Burnthiscorpse said:
Never used mast. But if someone were cutting and just using 250mg test wk to maintain mass while dropping fat and added mast p, what different would one notice between 100mg eod and 100mg ed?

Also I've heard it argued both ways but would someone at 15% get anything useful from this? Obviously the lower bf% the better with mast.
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I would do 100-150mg EOD and control diet. You will harden up quite a bit and notice some strength increases and well as some vascularity.
 
RickRock13 said:
At that bodyfat, I wouldn't run Masteron. You will see pretty much nothing from it because the hardening effects would be barely perceptible if at all
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Agreed
I've run mast with bf 15%+ and it was a wast imo.
250mg ew of test is an excellent cut cycle and works great for me.
I should have saved the $ and stuck with what i know works :)
 
BTC has been around long enough that we don't need to ask his age.....and the question was about someone @ 15% not necessarily his stats

~EZ
 
Bro...@ 15% i have cut with tren a , test prop and mast prop...i cant tell you what masteron will bring to the party on its own but at 100mg eod on all 3 i saw a serious change in composition. diet was dialled in at high protein, low carb and moderate fats - after 8 weeks with not much cardio i was seriously happy with the results.
3ml shots eod suck tho .
 
C0LUMB0 said:
Bro...@ 15% i have cut with tren a , test prop and mast prop...i cant tell you what masteron will bring to the party on its own but at 100mg eod on all 3 i saw a serious change in composition. diet was dialled in at high protein, low carb and moderate fats - after 8 weeks with not much cardio i was seriously happy with the results.
3ml shots eod suck tho .
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I started mast at 15%. I did 100mg eod for 15 weeks. As I got bigger and leaner from the test and primo, the mast DID make me harder. I felt aggressive too from it. I ended up doubling up on vascularity and I was already veiny. That all stuck and is even more pronounced now at 5 weeks from the cycle.

I finished up at 12%. Next time, BTC, I will run it at 100mg ed from beginning until end of cycle.
 
Interesting guys. I think i can get down to 14-15%-ish by the end of may-first week in june. I will still stay in a calorie deficit regardless. If I start a tren or tren/mast cut at that point at 14-15% i plan on ending up at sub 10%. even if its only 9%. So I guess I would have acheived my goal at that point.
When I said 6 visible abs before I just meant outline wise. im not talking shredded.
And Columbo, yeah 3ml shots would suck ass. I did that once in a glute and I'll never do it again.
I will likely pin ED. Mast one day, Tren the next. So I'm not getting huge knots in my delts from large shots. That shit sucks. I think Im gonna go 375 on the test though, not 250.

Diet is <120g carbs now and apx 60g fat. protein never goes below 350g and is usually around 375g. Thats apx 1.87g per pound of LBM. So thats right up there.
Im eating 6 meals a day(7 if i have time). 4 of those are each 10oz of chicken(sometimes salmon here and there) so im eating 2.5lb meat ED. Then my breakfast which runs 60g+ pro and PWO shake which runs 65g pro. Then if im awake long enough ill have a RTD (no sugar, carbs, fat ect..)
I also will throw in some super plasma protein during the cut that ive had around for a while. probably 20g in my morning and pwo shake (5g per tsp)
Will drop the aromasin once I start mast p. Will be adding N2guard and probably grab some caber from Chem need. Even though last time i tried tren for 3 weeks and failed due to serious anger issues i didnt have any sleep issues.
 
Burnthiscorpse said:
Interesting guys. I think i can get down to 14-15%-ish by the end of may-first week in june. I will still stay in a calorie deficit regardless. If I start a tren or tren/mast cut at that point at 14-15% i plan on ending up at sub 10%. even if its only 9%. So I guess I would have acheived my goal at that point.
When I said 6 visible abs before I just meant outline wise. im not talking shredded.
And Columbo, yeah 3ml shots would suck ass. I did that once in a glute and I'll never do it again.
I will likely pin ED. Mast one day, Tren the next. So I'm not getting huge knots in my delts from large shots. That shit sucks. I think Im gonna go 375 on the test though, not 250.

Diet is <120g carbs now and apx 60g fat. protein never goes below 350g and is usually around 375g. Thats apx 1.87g per pound of LBM. So thats right up there.
Im eating 6 meals a day(7 if i have time). 4 of those are each 10oz of chicken(sometimes salmon here and there) so im eating 2.5lb meat ED. Then my breakfast which runs 60g+ pro and PWO shake which runs 65g pro. Then if im awake long enough ill have a RTD (no sugar, carbs, fat ect..)
I also will throw in some super plasma protein during the cut that ive had around for a while. probably 20g in my morning and pwo shake (5g per tsp)
Will drop the aromasin once I start mast p. Will be adding N2guard and probably grab some caber from Chem need. Even though last time i tried tren for 3 weeks and failed due to serious anger issues i didnt have any sleep issues.
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Sound awesome, Man
 
Thanks guys. With any luck by mid summer I will be able to add in 4iu's of HGH 5 on 2 off (going to plan on a year at this)
So when I get to where I want to be BF% wise I can go into a slight surplus and not gain any if only a tiny amount of BF%.

My end goal is 230 @ sub 10%. (im 6'0") But realistically I'm just looking to have 6 visible abs and no side pec fat. So if I can do that and be 245 and much bigger at 11% but still see abs then I'm ok with that.
Basically how a guy like Cutler blows up off season and thinks he gets fat while hes still way leaner than most averege BB'rs and gains 50 lb but you can still see abs.
 
Burnthiscorpse said:
If I can't get down to 6 visible abs then I won't bother with it. I'll just run Tren and continue to cut till I get to where I need be.
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Ur at 18% to get down to 14% would not be hard at all in fact with diet and cardio id just hit it for 10 weeks you could get down to 12% easy

Then run mast and tren 
 
Yeah, there will be test. I'm 5 weeks into 375mg wk of Cyp right now. Going with Nelson's less is more approach. I havnt decided if it'll be 250 or 375 yet but it'll be in there. Just as a base. Want to let the Tren and mast do the work for a change. In the past I would have probably run 500mg.

I'm dieting and cutting now ofcourse but after last Sunday's calculations my diet was a little off. Now that its fixed I'm down 5lb the last 5 days. I had gained 25lb in the last 5 weeks but I blame the ghrp-2 for a heavy dose of water retention. I hadn't been on a scale in 2 mos so I didn't realize it wit h the rest of my body growing. I was pissed.
I'm not really on a set schedule, I will be doing a blast and cruise (125mg cruise) for the rest of the year.
So if I cut a little more before adding Tren and mast that's fine too.
 
Burnthiscorpse said:
Yeah, there will be test. I'm 5 weeks into 375mg wk of Cyp right now. Going with Nelson's less is more approach. I havnt decided if it'll be 250 or 375 yet but it'll be in there. Just as a base. Want to let the Tren and mast do the work for a change. In the past I would have probably run 500mg.

I'm dieting and cutting now ofcourse but after last Sunday's calculations my diet was a little off. Now that its fixed I'm down 5lb the last 5 days. I had gained 25lb in the last 5 weeks but I blame the ghrp-2 for a heavy dose of water retention. I hadn't been on a scale in 2 mos so I didn't realize it wit h the rest of my body growing. I was pissed.
I'm not really on a set schedule, I will be doing a blast and cruise (125mg cruise) for the rest of the year.
So if I cut a little more before adding Tren and mast that's fine too.
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That scale will lie to you, i made an article a few month back how food is digested.


http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/w...dybuilding-training/i-asked-today-878713.html
 
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