There's no chip. Lol what would you do? Seriously. Isn't it in my genes to do so? I am an alpha male, I want as many women as I can get, and to kill all other men, think I'm going to let a couple people talk shit for no reason? sir no sir.needtogetas said:bro the problem is you have this huge chip on your shoulder.just look how you talk yourself up and talk others down.
ps. just so you know, someone I know called me that.youngguns said:There's no chip. Lol what would you do? Seriously. Isn't it in my genes to do so? I am an alpha male, I want as many women as I can get, and to kill all other men, think I'm going to let a couple people talk shit for no reason? sir no sir.
well with that kind of talk I know exactly who is funding you.youngguns said:There's no chip. Lol what would you do? Seriously. Isn't it in my genes to do so? I am an alpha male, I want as many women as I can get, and to kill all other men, think I'm going to let a couple people talk shit for no reason? sir no sir.
Dr. JK said:Where did my thread get moved? Let's go Youggguns it's time to talk in person!!
Where do you train and what times? Don't worry I just want to talk nothing else...
agreedNickyE3 said:YG = hotty
all the negative comments should not be a surprise, seriously - this is the internet. Who gives a shit what we think? If you feel that you look good then that is all that matters. Not what 'we' think you should look like after 10 cycles
you remind me of my girlfriendNickyE3 said:that was original YG
you remind me of this douche bag on here a while back called beautifulbiceps
for someone to actually say this shit, I cannot believe the people who are on elite, and you guys are like 30+ right? lol I DONT GET ITNickyE3 said:that was original YG
you remind me of this douche bag on here a while back called beautifulbiceps
it was deleted or moved by a mod cuz it's drama on the internet.Dr. JK said:Where did my thread get moved? Let's go Youggguns it's time to talk in person!!
Where do you train and what times? Don't worry I just want to talk nothing else...
Sarge_ said:it was deleted or moved by a mod cuz it's drama on the internet.
IMO this thread should be put in the garbage as well.
You're not accomplishing anything by typing hostile things across the interwebs... it's fucking gheigh, as i said in the thread that was moved or whatever.
You guys are getting your pantys in a bunch... use the ignore feature.
Or use some self restraint and stop wasting your time.
and that's my 2 cents on the topic at hand. thank you come again.
youngguns said:for someone to actually say this shit, I cannot believe the people who are on elite, and you guys are like 30+ right? lol I DONT GET IT
Who?heavy_duty said:The guy has NOT done 10 cycles!
Because you will use your 20 years of mma to hurt me becasue you are to insecure to laugh at what I say?Dr. JK said:Sarge, I am not the one who started this shit. He keeps insulting me and think I am going to sit here and take his BS. He lives in TO and so do I. Why doesn't he have the balls to insult me IN PERSON!?
youngguns said:Because you will use your 20 years of mma to hurt me becasue you are to insecure to laugh at what I say?
I know man.Dr. JK said:Sarge, I am not the one who started this shit. He keeps insulting me and think I am going to sit here and take his BS. He lives in TO and so do I. Why doesn't he have the balls to insult me IN PERSON!?
why don't you do what you just said??NickyE3 said:Sarge is a good bro
opinions are like assholes, everyone has one
dont sweat the small stuff
youngguns said:why don't you do what you just said??
Oh NICKY E 3 thinks I'm an idiot, lil nickye3, HAHAHAHAH HA HA, i have no e-friendsNickyE3 said:wtf are talking about?
i said i thought u were a douchebag and that he shouldnt worry about what other people said.
im not getting all riled up about this. you know i think ur an idiot.
I never said I wasnt going to post my opinion

youngguns said:Oh NICKY E 3 thinks I'm an idiot, lil nickye3, HAHAHAHAH HA HA, i have no e-friends![]()
Dr. JK said:1st off thanks to all the replies..
The pic is not "paltinum" all I did was upload it. If someone can help me post it better please tell me.
2nd I know I don't look 260lbs, but that is what I am. Most people think I look 230-240lbs. I have a big bones that make up most of that mass. Honestly I wish I was lighter about 10lbs-->that is my goal (read the beginning of the thread.
My cycles have not been to gain a huge amount of muscle but more consistent & long term, mostly eq/winny or vart/fina etc. I am 35 and started juicing over 10 years ago with 220lb body weight and more fat %.
So like I said I am NOT a BB but more into martial arts and don't care for getting any bigger!. So if you look bigger and are bigger great for you. Not everyone is obsessed with getting bigger.
Peace
HotBottom4U2NV said:LMAO, everyone's bones are made up up generally the same density, try again.
HotBottom4U2NV said:LMAO, everyone's bones are made up up generally the same density, try again.
youngguns said:for someone to actually say this shit, I cannot believe the people who are on elite, and you guys are like 30+ right? lol I DONT GET IT
bmcadoo44 said:not necesarily... i have a friend who weighs the same as me and is the same height but i am much more muscular and stronger than him. We both have the same bodyfat so all i could conclude is that his bone mass is thicker.
Dr. JK said:Let's talk about it in person. Maybe I can learn something from you. Where do you train and when? I want to come and train with you, bro..What days and where?
HotBottom4U2NV said:Dr.JK, please don't be internet tough guy. There really is nothing lamer then threatening someone on an internet chat board to a fight, I don't know you but I would bet that you're better than that, kthanxbye
Dr. JK said:I am not an internet tough guy and normally would not even bother, but since he (Youngguns) keeps insulting me and we live in the same city then let him say it to my face. I don't say anything on here that I would not say to someone in person. I don't come on here and insult others so why should I be putting up with his shit?? Who the fuck is he to insult people like this??
If anything he is acting like a tough guy. So let him come and "walk the talk".
He lives in the same city as me. So if he wants to say something to me he can say it IN PERSON. End of story!
marvelous54 said:Bro I will agree that he went overboard with the insults but the truth is YOU did post your pic, YOU did post your stats and YOU did ask, and I quote, "what do you guys think?" YOU then followed that up by saying ALL comments welcome. You can't really get too upset when you ask someone for their opinion and they give it, no matter how derogatory it may be it is still their opinion and you still asked them for it.
i think you've finally said something about yourself that we can all agree uponyoungguns said:I DONT GET IT
Dr. JK said:Let's get it straight, I asked "what do you guys think" about my bf% because I did not measure it. I specified that I AM NOT A BB and am into martial arts more than BB. So yes I am asking for feedback BUT keep within context of my goals.
And the cycles I did were all mild cycles that serious juicers would laugh at like Deca/Winny or Tren/Winny etc. They were never mass cycles. But who cares about my cycles...just cause I am not a BB does not mean I can't juice!!
I was just happy with the way I looked considering I went through hell and back with PCT and excess water bloat. That's all. I am not trying to be or look the best. Period and Peace.
youngguns said:OR you can tell them the truth, not only because they have not put thier work in, in the kitchen, or the gym, but doing there homework on AAS.
" ya great job for doing steroids and eating pop tarts for breakfast and starting your chest workout with cables"
Common now, there is being nice, then there is being a sisy bitch, tell him the damn truth.
first off please stop stalking me. Second, I am civil enough to not settle an internet dispute, even a "real life" dispute with fists, you are a barbarian.Dr. JK said:I am not an internet tough guy and normally would not even bother, but since he (Youngguns) keeps insulting me and we live in the same city then let him say it to my face. I don't say anything on here that I would not say to someone in person. I don't come on here and insult others so why should I be putting up with his shit?? Who the fuck is he to insult people like this??
If anything he is acting like a tough guy. So let him come and "walk the talk".
He lives in the same city as me. So if he wants to say something to me he can say it IN PERSON. End of story!
HotBottom4U2NV said:It's a medical fact, seriously. Unless you have osteoporosis or take mass amounts of calcium channel blocker's for a CAD or an MI, your bone density is within the average median for your age group.
Dr. JK said:Let's get it straight, I asked "what do you guys think" about my bf% because I did not measure it. I specified that I AM NOT A BB and am into martial arts more than BB. So yes I am asking for feedback BUT keep within context of my goals.
And the cycles I did were all mild cycles that serious juicers would laugh at like Deca/Winny or Tren/Winny etc. They were never mass cycles. But who cares about my cycles...just cause I am not a BB does not mean I can't juice!!
I was just happy with the way I looked considering I went through hell and back with PCT and excess water bloat. That's all. I am not trying to be or look the best. Period and Peace.

GymIntensity said:you're a fucktard. first off, mass and density are two COMPLETELY different things. Second of all, the guy only mean his bone structure is LARGER. You cant possibly tell me a guy with a 5'8'' frame is going to have the same size bones as a guy at 6'4"??? so just STFU and quit acting like you know everything.
youngguns said:I really like people who say it how it is. I'm glad there are some on ef to make me not look insane!
heavy_duty said:He asked what we thought his body fat % was. Not what we thought about his physique. But YES he did welcome all comments LOL
Funny thing is, nobody said what they think his body fat % is.
I say 16-20%
The only recent one id the half body grey one, which is 2 months old. So I've added a few pounds of muscle since then. And if you think I look like shit, I really could care less.bruce410 said:16-20 is a great estimate. hey look at youngpussy's gallery, he has a pic in there, wow!!!!!!!!! he looks like shit
wait wait wait, look at this guys signature, that tells more than I can say. lol!bruce410 said:16-20 is a great estimate. hey look at youngpussy's gallery, he has a pic in there, wow!!!!!!!!! he looks like shit
youngguns said:wait wait wait, look at this guys signature, that tells more than I can say. lol!
I think gangsta rap has no place, and no not anymore.a creed said:what about it?
Do you live in a "hole"??
yea a rap from roy jones that i workout to and so do alot of others really says alot about me. what a loser you are. my godyoungguns said:wait wait wait, look at this guys signature, that tells more than I can say. lol!
bruce410 said:16-20 is a great estimate. hey look at youngpussy's gallery, he has a pic in there, wow!!!!!!!!! he looks like shit
RaoulDuke.. said:get out of here with that shit. first of all, he is natural. secondly you posted pics about a year ago, after several cycles, and looked TINY, much smaller than yg (can someone pull up the pics??) dont care what your "single digit bf" was, you looked like a high school kid, except you use steroids. but i guess its all cool cause you're a 'good bro'
jk--is this how you react to everyone that says something negative about you? propositioning them to meat up and use your mma skills on them?
bluetwistedsteel67 said:Hold on, Is youngguns beatifulbiceps? Am I the last to know this?
I am deeply hurt by your slander. I am also deeply hurt by your threats.bruce410 said:i don't know about you guys but i don't like to be where i am not wanted. not one member likes you here. you don't juice so get out of the steroid forum. quit starting with every bro on here, give it up. no one is amused by you. keep it up i guarantee you are gone.
It's the pic bro. That's him. No f-ing doubtGymIntensity said:thats his alleged alter ego bro. once you think about it , it all adds up.
AgreedRaoulDuke.. said:get out of here with that shit. first of all, he is natural. secondly you posted pics about a year ago, after several cycles, and looked TINY, much smaller than yg (can someone pull up the pics??) dont care what your "single digit bf" was, you looked like a high school kid, except you use steroids. but i guess its all cool cause you're a 'good bro'
jk--is this how you react to everyone that says something negative about you? propositioning them to meat up and use your mma skills on them?
GymIntensity said:lol, bro, you talkn about when he was running var and winny only cycs???? several cycles???? oh you must be talkn about a couple short cycles of Var...nice try... I know guys that are anorexic and have more BF than bruce. if you dont think that takes discipline then you are confused. Since then the basis of his cycs have been EQ, he hardly messes with any test at all. Lets see what you look like running only EQ????
RaoulDuke.. said:lol, who are you, bruce's f'ing secretary?? i'm not going to argue with you about what he had taken at that time, but i remember specifically him mentioning deca, test, and 100mg var/day at one point. yes, he's ripped its called ectomorph + AAS.
best way to put it right here.no need to be a dick.you can say what you have to say with out it.marvelous54 said:Hey Young, I'm not saying that I agreed with the way you presented what you had to say, I'm just saying I agree you had the right to say it since he openly stated ALL comments WELCOME.
Hopefully you'll present things a little differently in the future. Be honest just don't cross the line into "flaming". Good luck.
up just keeps getting better in the thread.a creed said:I guess this thread has brought out ALL the pricks, huh?
RD - you're a jackass
its time to put the old crew back together boys.lola creed said:it's a free-for-all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

a creed said:I guess this thread has brought out ALL the pricks, huh?
RD - you're a jackass
a creed said:I guess this thread has brought out ALL the pricks, huh?
RD - you're a jackass
RaoulDuke.. said:lol, who are you, bruce's f'ing secretary?? i'm not going to argue with you about what he had taken at that time, but i remember specifically him mentioning deca, test, and 100mg var/day at one point. yes, he's ripped its called ectomorph + AAS.
19-21 really no way.marvelous54 said:Good post, back to topic. I would say he's 19-21 just guessing.
GymIntensity said:ya actually we are Co-CEO's of a top financial company together.
Anyways, I just keep up with his posts because he was the first bro on EF to help me get my AAS shit straight. Took time to respond to everyone of my irritating newb PM's I sent him. And show me a post that Bruce has made, bragging about his physique???? He's one of the most modest bros on here, and if he is bragging about his physique, its because a dickhead like you has called him out and talked shit about his physique. Dont come up in here 6 pages deep and start mouthin off.
GymIntensity said:you're a fucktard. first off, mass and density are two COMPLETELY different things. Second of all, the guy only mean his bone structure is LARGER. You cant possibly tell me a guy with a 5'8'' frame is going to have the same size bones as a guy at 6'4"??? so just STFU and quit acting like you know everything.
HotBottom4U2NV said:Jesus bro, what's up with the hostility?
I believe my reference was made to density not size, where did I lose you exactly? I did not think my reply required an explanation between lengths and sizes of bones for individuals of varying stature and how they differ. I suppose some information is more common sense to others.
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showpost.php?p=7087055&postcount=134
bruce410 said:you hotbottom, don't fucking red GI again. you are that guy that is always making gay comments, fuck off. younguns, i can only imagine how pathetic you must be to continue to be on a site where you are so hated. if you were dying of fire we wouldn't piss to put it out yet you won't leave. oh well. must be a sad life.
would not even bother with hotbottom thats gambino's alt.it wont be around long digger has it in his sites.bruce410 said:you hotbottom, don't fucking red GI again. you are that guy that is always making gay comments, fuck off. younguns, i can only imagine how pathetic you must be to continue to be on a site where you are so hated. if you were dying of fire we wouldn't piss to put it out yet you won't leave. oh well. must be a sad life.
GymIntensity said:hey you pussy ass bitch. those 5 hits of -12 karma are really killing me bro. too bad several good bros are diffusing your lame ass shit. lets bump this so everyone knows HotHOMO4U2GETHEAD is a douchebag and has redded me 5 times in a row. man, did i hurt your feelings??? or did i ridicule your post so much all you can do is red me with -12 hits???? haha, im owning you right now bro, keep it goin.
Dr. JK said:Keep in mind I am into martial arts more than BB AND I am not at my goal yet
Here are my stats:
6'4"
260lbs (in the morning)
Cycles= >10
BF% ? (what do you guys think?)
My goal is to get down to get down to 250lb shredded for WKKC (World Koshiki Karate Championships) in Aug/07
Any feedback/comments are always welcome
Peace
Whoever wants to see go to Youtube under koshiki---is the type of fighting/competition I do
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