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c17

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im new here 6'6" almost 200 lifting about 3 years 19 i have no problem eating about 400 g of protein 450-550 g of carbs about 60 g of fat daily i want to gain mass but solid mass. i figured the basic beginner stack of eq and test but what about test tren and deca or eq test suspension and winny
 
Bro you are 19... Your test levels are at there highest and you have no need to juice. You have not juiced B4 so tren would be a no no. It is not for a novice. In time when you do make it simple and just run a test only cycle. It is still to soon for you to be juicing as you are still growning and you do not want to hamper that
 
ive been to the doctors and my test levels are in the low normal range there comming up but its probably not going to be in the high normal range i go to him about every 3 months even a low dose of tren is no good i know test is the backbone but what cand i throw into it to make me hard to like eq or winny
 
250mg test enth + 200mg eq every mon and thurs for 10-12 weeks. PCT...1000IU HCG MWF for 3 wks starting 2wks after last shot along with 20mg nolva ed and 50mg clomid ed for the 3 wks while on HCG and then another 2 weeks after stopping the HCG. you can add 20mg dbol ed for the first 4 weeks also.
 
mikebzt said:
Bro you are 19... Your test levels are at there highest and you have no need to juice. You have not juiced B4 so tren would be a no no. It is not for a novice. In time when you do make it simple and just run a test only cycle. It is still to soon for you to be juicing as you are still growning and you do not want to hamper that

I couldn't agree with this more

However, we all know ur going to juice anyway. Keep it simple with just test.
Far too many people rely on steroids to harden up. You can still remain hard as long as your diet is in check.
 
i dont want to use d bol yet i do just want to keep it simple but i just want to throw something besides test like eq, tren or deca i heard you should use hcg every 4-5 days like mon 3000 thurs 3000 sun 1500 ect.
 
Pretty much have the same questions as original poster. What's the best/cheapest to take with Test eth. I assume you need something to prevent bloating?
 
c17 said:
i dont want to use d bol yet i do just want to keep it simple but i just want to throw something besides test like eq, tren or deca i heard you should use hcg every 4-5 days like mon 3000 thurs 3000 sun 1500 ect.

You dont need that much hcg. Thats overkill.
 
PLEASE, I agree that you are not quite there yet for juice. Your body rigth know is at its prime. Even if your test level are in the low range, you are better taking advantage of your youth. Also, test levels are not the only variable in muscle development.

FOr most, the first cycle is the best one. Also, steriod work best adults. Reason being is that the body is a state that can benefit the most of the steriod usage.

The muscle that you will pack working in your youth is the best quality muscle you can adquire. Think about it them as your base/foundation. WHY SPOIL THAT with impatience.. YOU HAVE ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD!

Aslo, most males stop growing/developing approx 23 years old. You could limit yout growth becasue most anabolic/androgenic steriods prematuraly close the epiphysial cartailage wich lead to growth stunt and ultimately result in a decreade in predicted height... this is irreversible. (world anabolic review, 1996)

Educated yourseld from many sources, and consider people advices!... Is better to be taller and big, that just big.



Whay don't you educate yourseld on the matter.. knowledge is power! Go tho this site and order this book. Read it.. you will love it.. trust me here. and then decide.

http://www.mesomorphosis.com/articles/pharmacology/world-anabolic-review.htm
 
good info loths, but 23 would be the high end of the range for closure of the epiphyseal growth plates. most males have closure by 19-20...some as early as 16-18.
 
Dude, test/winstrol/eq would be good to make you big, hard and vascular. But then again, tren is the BEST for hardness, period!
 
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