Help me understant 150lbs and under

[slat1]

I used to be skinny as hell. I got fat as hell in college. When I got out I studied nutrition and body building. I applied what I learned to go from 230 to 177 at about 5%!!! I then added in protien (as many as shakes a day... LOL) and I was gaining 10lbs every six months for the next year and a half.
At 205 it stopped.
I was 27 when I first used AAS. I did a ten week cycle of test ent. I went from 200 (the day I started) to 220. I knew nothing about HCG/clomid so I didn't use it. I dropped back down to 206.
What I found then and have confirmed now is this. You can eat all you want. It can be healthy food too. It doesn't mean you will grow. You have to eat healthy muscle building foods. You have to know when to eat them too. Once you do that you will grow and keep growing.
We have our whole lives to achieve our goals. Expecting them overnight is crazy.

 

[maccer]

You must spread some Karma around before giving it to slat1 again.

Would love to hear your diet plans

 

[needsize]

lemme tell you, for naturally skinny people gaining weight can be practically impossible. i ate 3500-4000 calories a day for 2 months straight, and about 35-40% of those calories were protein. i gained about 4 lbs of average body weight, then lost it. After 2 months of eating twice as much as a normal person, i was EXACTLY the same: 5'11 and 150 lbs. I was benching about 15 lbs more, so i must have redistributed a little fat into muscle, but putting on overall body weight is practically impossible for someone with metabolism like mine. I eat more than anyone I know, but somehow it all just gets burned up.

then eat more, if you want it bad enough it shouldnt be a problem, I ate at least 5000-6000 calories a day this last year.....and I am naturally tiny as hell, and still managed to get up to a shredded 180lbs at 5'8" before hitting the juice

 

[The Terminator]

lemme tell you, for naturally skinny people gaining weight can be practically impossible. i ate 3500-4000 calories a day for 2 months straight, and about 35-40% of those calories were protein. i gained about 4 lbs of average body weight, then lost it. After 2 months of eating twice as much as a normal person, i was EXACTLY the same: 5'11 and 150 lbs. I was benching about 15 lbs more, so i must have redistributed a little fat into muscle, but putting on overall body weight is practically impossible for someone with metabolism like mine. I eat more than anyone I know, but somehow it all just gets burned up.

That is because 3500-4000 calories a day is NOTHING ...I have to take in ATLEAST 5500 calories a day to gain at all (and I'm only 185 lbs)

It is posts like this that make me realize that not too many guys know how to eat to grow these days ...
Steroids now are commonly used as a short cut instead of what they should be used for (the tip of the iceberg), NOT the base of iceberg...

 

[sweed]

3500 is close to what i was eating to diet, lol

 

[The Terminator]

then eat more, if you want it bad enough it shouldnt be a problem, I ate at least 5000-6000 calories a day this last year.....and I am naturally tiny as hell, and still managed to get up to a shredded 180lbs at 5'8" before hitting the juice

Sadly the response to your postion of "eat more" will be answered with a slew of:
"Why, when we can just take more and more juice instead "

And this board has got to be one of the worst in that regard

 

[needsize]

Sadly the response to your postion of "eat more" will be answered with a slew of:
"Why, when we can just take more and more juice instead "

And this board has got to be one of the worst in that regard

no kidding, and I even tried that without realizing I was doing it, over 3 grams a week of stuff, and couldnt gain any weight as I just wasnt eating enough

 

[slat1]

I have to eat over 3500 calories a day just to maintain!

 

[Singleton]

I agree. But I would say 180 if you're around 6'.
Sure you can add mass beyond your genetic limit with AS but you'll never hold it, especially if you don't have any mature mass to build on. There is no evidence that AS will create new satellite cells which are required to make muscle where there was none previously. So all you can do is add to what you already have. At 150 you simply don't have enough.

Someone who doesn't know how to build and hold mass who does steroids will not hold the gains when he comes off because he didn't learn how to hold his gains naturally.

How about guys who don't juice for years but can still bench big? (i mean big as in ~365#). Don't tell me they didn't hold anything. Dumb luck? Pure genetics? Could it be that they actually know what the fuck they're doing?

No evidence that AS will create new satellite cells? There's no evidence for a lot of things. Consider the argument that "the pump is not effective." Sure, no one has "proven" it effective in a controlled scientific study. This argument has been supported by the fact that there really isn't much research to back up the pump. Doesn't make the argument valid, it just means that the pump is not validated by controlled scientific study. Of course, noone ever argues that it's practically impossible to design such an experiment to concluded the efficacy (or lack thereof) of the pump.

I started @ 140#. I got to 200 with creatine, diet, and HIT. Took 4 years

@ 150 you have 10 lbs more than I did and a lot more potential.

Of course you can always just be a lazy fuck and stay on year-round like other guys here do

 

[LVTitan]

i started at 118, i've been off for a little while now, and havent worked out in a month due to a wrist injury (work related) and i'm holding around 142 by keeping my calories up. i actually was down to 135 last month because of bad eating, and have already put almost 10lbs back on by pulling my head out of my ass.. to be honest i actually feel good at 140 i might stay here for a while before i do another.