Help me understant 150lbs and under

[dr0832]

utahbic what the hell don't you understand? Why is it ok for you to inject a substance into your body to get bigger and its not ok for me just because I'm only 180 or for some 115 lb guy? This is fucking bullshit. Theres no reason why the average joe can't do whatever the fuck he wants with gear. He may not know how to train, he may lose all gains. but its none of your fucking business and I don't know why your posting this stupid question on a message board. Get a damn life. Why do 200+lb body builders think they are the only ones with the right to use gear? Not everyone wants to be 250 lbs but its common sense and human nature for people to want to take the easiest route and just because its not right in your opinion doesn't mean a god damn thing.

 

[needsize]

utahbic what the hell don't you understand? Why is it ok for you to inject a substance into your body to get bigger and its not ok for me just because I'm only 180 or for some 115 lb guy? This is fucking bullshit. Theres no reason why the average joe can't do whatever the fuck he wants with gear. He may not know how to train, he may lose all gains. but its none of your fucking business and I don't know why your posting this stupid question on a message board. Get a damn life. Why do 200+lb body builders think they are the only ones with the right to use gear? Not everyone wants to be 250 lbs but its common sense and human nature for people to want to take the easiest route and just because its not right in your opinion doesn't mean a god damn thing.

why on earth should I ever have to work for, or earn anything worth having in life. I should have an easy job where I get paid lotsa money, and if I have to work too hard, hell, there is always wellfare. And why should I take the time to learn how my body responds to food, training, etc before jumping on the juice bandwagon because dammit, thats the north american way.....I want everything yesterday, and I want it all to fall into my lap with the minimum of effort
did I paraphrase your post accurately?

 

[muscleup]

LMFAO.......sounds about right.

why on earth should I ever have to work for, or earn anything worth having in life. I should have an easy job where I get paid lotsa money, and if I have to work too hard, hell, there is always wellfare. And why should I take the time to learn how my body responds to food, training, etc before jumping on the juice bandwagon because dammit, thats the north american way.....I want everything yesterday, and I want it all to fall into my lap with the minimum of effort
did I paraphrase your post accurately?

 

[silverbackn]

you cant attach weight or size stats to it, but if someone looks like they dont workout, then they sure as hell shouldnt be juicing, but the majority of people who jump on their first cycle look like they may have driven past a gym once

I'm in total agreement here! I was 240 before I touched a drug! I hear people on here talking about juice and trying to put up 225 on bench for the first time. Ridiculous. Nobody puts anytime into training naturally. I trained for 6 years clean and hit it hard while eating very well. These people will never be big and strong.

 

[dr0832]

I am not saying its a good thing. I am saying its none of anyone else business what some puts into their bodies. I personally learned to train, learned to eat right, made sure I wasn't 130lbs, made sure I wasn't 15 and educated myself on juice to the best of my ability, but it just doesn't make sense why people care so much what other people do with their bodies. Why are competive bodybuilders so special that they should be the only ones to use juice? This has been bothering me for a long time. Competitive bodybuilders think they are in a league of their own and that juice was invented just so they can have perfect symetry in their traps. If a person wants to use juice theres no reason why they shouldn't as long as they know how to train and know how to eat, unless they have health problems. Just cause they don't bust their ass like you do, and they aren't as good as you at lifting, shouldn't prevent them from using gear. They may not grow the same as you, but who the fuck cares. Its their business. Who are you or I to tell them they can't use gear?


This is just my opinion, most people may think differently.

 

[kbrkbr]

why on earth should I ever have to work for, or earn anything worth having in life. I should have an easy job where I get paid lotsa money, and if I have to work too hard, hell, there is always wellfare. And why should I take the time to learn how my body responds to food, training, etc before jumping on the juice bandwagon because dammit, thats the north american way.....I want everything yesterday, and I want it all to fall into my lap with the minimum of effort
did I paraphrase your post accurately?

This is the exact same argument that the media, the medical establishment, and Washington is using to condemn all use of AAS.

 

[needsize]

I am not saying its a good thing. I am saying its none of anyone else business what some puts into their bodies. I personally learned to train, learned to eat right, made sure I wasn't 130lbs, made sure I wasn't 15 and educated myself on juice to the best of my ability, but it just doesn't make sense why people care so much what other people do with their bodies. Why are competive bodybuilders so special that they should be the only ones to use juice? This has been bothering me for a long time. Competitive bodybuilders think they are in a league of their own and that juice was invented just so they can have perfect symetry in their traps. If a person wants to use juice theres no reason why they shouldn't as long as they know how to train and know how to eat, unless they have health problems. Just cause they don't bust their ass like you do, and they aren't as good as you at lifting, shouldn't prevent them from using gear. They may not grow the same as you, but who the fuck cares. Its their business. Who are you or I to tell them they can't use gear?


This is just my opinion, most people may think differently.

since when is it competitive bodybuilders saying this stuff, there are very few of us on here, its mostly just guys that took the time to do things right.

And for what its worth, competitive bodybuilders very much are in a league of their own. Until you have tried actually going through the inhumanly unpleasant process of getting yourself into contest shape over a period of 5 months, dropping down to levels of bodyfat your body was never supposed to get down to, despite your body using every defence mechanism it has to stop that from happening....then you have no idea how much they really are in a league of their own. It is easily the hardest thing you will ever do in your life

 

[clublavela]

He does have some good points. But dr I really everyone is just watching out for us cause we're all bros on here and theyare just saying it's better to start natty than just to jump on roids.

 

[silverbackn]

I am not saying its a good thing. I am saying its none of anyone else business what some puts into their bodies. I personally learned to train, learned to eat right, made sure I wasn't 130lbs, made sure I wasn't 15 and educated myself on juice to the best of my ability, but it just doesn't make sense why people care so much what other people do with their bodies. Why are competive bodybuilders so special that they should be the only ones to use juice? This has been bothering me for a long time. Competitive bodybuilders think they are in a league of their own and that juice was invented just so they can have perfect symetry in their traps. If a person wants to use juice theres no reason why they shouldn't as long as they know how to train and know how to eat, unless they have health problems. Just cause they don't bust their ass like you do, and they aren't as good as you at lifting, shouldn't prevent them from using gear. They may not grow the same as you, but who the fuck cares. Its their business. Who are you or I to tell them they can't use gear?


This is just my opinion, most people may think differently.

Until you have stepped on-stage you have no idea what a competitive bb'er goes through, you couldn't even begin to comprehend. Yes, you do have to earn the right to use drugs. If you don't, you will NEVER have a physique anyway. That's the truth.

 

[silverbackn]

Needsize hit the nail on the head, period.