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Help! Did not get kiss on first date-outing!

And I still end up being lonely in the end there nordstrom. I actually do shitty with woman to this day (I do try though..I try to meet x amount of girls per week and keep that tab in the back of my head) but if you compared me 2 years ago to right now than Im much better now. Its just that every so once and a while I try to do something different or see if this works or that works and usually it ends up screwing me in the end.

I know the BASICS:

Listen to the girl and find out what she truly likes..etc
Smile
Rapport
Dont be quiet but dont be a blabber mouth
Stay on a positive subject
Try to be unique on an emotional level than a scientific-logic level
Let things flow but stay in control (my biggest weakness)

I remembered I turned white, almost fainted, heart pounding way too rapidly on my first date. I didnt even say a word, man was I nervous.

Its one thing to be anxious with girls for the first time but combine that with social anxiety and you might have to call the ER.
 
ALright im getting out of the house tonight and checking out the scene. Ive been depressed lately in the past week or so and I know why..Ive been getting lame and going back to my old self. My old habits showed up with that one mountain girl and I suffered from ¨one itis¨ where I think she is the ONLY one. I fucked up by doing x, y and z so now its time to freshen up my game.

Again, I actually KNOW what to do its just that I wanted opinions and its hard seeing things internally. I busted out my journals of diaries, moleskins (over 2000 pages of writings of what I did with girls) pictures (heehee) and now my confidence is blooming.

If she calls back next week then she does. Ill push her aside for awhile until she coughs up something nice she can offer me.

All jokes aside, if you many of you think that taking a girl to McDonalds is a turn off..then you havent been outside. I took a girl for just milkshakes and apple pie and lets just say I had a rather pleasant evening that night.

Thanks ladies and gentlemen....and for those that flamed me, its all good. Its all for fun in the end.
 
Thick dog said:
That sucks, if you could have scored with this chick after taking her to Mcdonald's on a date, I would have given you some mad props...

She probably eats at McDonalds all the time anyway, whats the big deal? why should men have to impress women by big extravagent dates? that makes it harder for men in general because women will start to think they are some prescious commodity.
 
Yep...men that are so mesmorised by pussy have made it worse for the rest of us by setting a moronic standard
 
supersizeme said:
Wow, what the fuck?

You go out on a first date with a girl who you find to be conservative, and you end up telling her that you've had sex with some of the girls you lived with, plus you prosituted yourself out to another girl? LOL!!! Oink oink, my good man!

Man, I have no idea what could've wrong here. It sounded like you were golden.

Here's a bit of advice. Girls are intrigued by a guy who has a bit of mystery to them. You might as well have printed out your DNA code onto a few sheets of paper and handed it to her, along with having all your ex-girlfriends call her up to discusss your favorite sexual position. You went overboard with the conversation. I realize sometimes you can connect with someone very well and talk for hours, but you've still got to maintain some sort of boundaries on the topics of conversation, or you run the risk of scaring them off.

I did enjoy the hell out of your story though. Good luck with the next chick, homie.


I can spell real goodlike.
 
Cruel Intentions

Anybody ever see the movie Cruel Intentions? Some dude and his sister have this diabolical plot (well, I guess all depends on who you ask) revolving around virgins. The guy is tired after screwing the easy girls and is looking for a challenge, so his pursuit is to go after young virgins. Part of it is for his egotistical way of proclaiming true mastermanship in the game. The sister goes around pretending to be a young virgin by acting conservative and wearing a cross (since her thing is to get normal girls to envy her since many guys lust after a young virgin) but who cares what the sister does.

So the guy meets a virgin but then..something begins to happen. He actually begins to fall in love (and again, what is love) with the virgin chick Reese Weatherspoon so his game starts to fade in a sense. His personality, game, aura of charisma swiftly crumbles peice by peice yet he still is attractive in the girls eyes.

And there you go. When I started to go "goo goo-ga ga" over this mountain girl since she pretty much met every standard I want in a girl (I have my list of traits and qualities of the right companion) then my game QUICKLY fade. On top of me having ADD, social phobia, OCD among other shit...then things went chaotic. There is a bunch of shit that happenned that I would never ever have done before with other girls.

When one person said "that is such a lame line"..yeah, guys use lines but I was speaking from the heart. It waS TRUE, after all the X amount of girls Ive been with she was unique, and different. I dont use lines, so if it came out as a line that was my internal projections flaring up. My old self took over instead of my tactical self.

SPeaking of which, had a great night last night. Took a buddy out that maybe a potential business partner of mine and did ok. Really shy, not interesting to girls type guy. Tells me the story of how he when he was in college and high school that he was always the guy that when he went out with his 3 buddies, he was the guy doing best with just the bar while the buddies were screwing the other girls. Got him to dress better, change his body language (back straight, dont look down, dont stick arms to the side like RIchard Simmons, etc..) had him to do the "Eye Test" with at least 10 girls that night (which can be found elsewhere on the net which actually helped me the most but that is a whole other storY) and surprise surprise, he made a few girls blush and broke them into smiles leading into hi's. Got a number and he gave him his email addy (ok, no cell phone).

So when my peeps do good and I fair well in the evening before the start of the weekend then you know the weekend is going to kick ass. Later all!
 
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