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Help! Did not get kiss on first date-outing!

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timewilltell

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Man I feel like shit, not depressed..but rather dissapointed since things did not end up as I thought they were. What was I hoping? A kiss in the lips on my first date with this girl that I really like..here is how it all started..

I met her while walking down the mountain as she was standing outside with her family. She is a pretty conservative girl (or so I think) and she wanted to get to know me. We exchanged numbers and I accidentaly gave her a bad number. She gave me her number but I didnt even get in contact with her until a week and a half later since I left her number at the mountains. A friend of mine finally found her number and then it was time to call her.

I called her and she was in somewhat of a shock that I called her after all that time. I told her my reasons and she accepted it and we talked for about 2 hours on the phone on everything. We both laughed and dug the conversation very well. We planned for a ´meeting´ the following night and we met in front of a bookstore. From there we went to her mother´s resteraunt and chit chatted a bit, met her family, it was all good. Not much of a conversation other than basic flake talk.

We walked over towards this department store and we spent a few hours chatting about our dreams, what we like in people, etc. Out of all this time, she was smiling, laughing at whatever I said...maybe a bit of kino. From there we stopped to get some coffee and told her my intuitions about her...she enjoyed hearing it. TOld me that I was a funny, different, interesting guy. So far so good..I THINK.

But here is the thing. I REALLY liked her that I decided to get honest, maybe TOO honest. YOu see, I live in an apartment with a few other girls....friends if you will, but the thing is in the past I had sex with a few of them. In fact, later on, they introduced to me a depressed, not pretty girl where I went to her apartment..we talked, and she PAID me money for sex. Not much, but still money nevertheless. HONEST. I thought she was playing at me first but true. THe word around was that I was good in bed. Yes yes yes..this all true.

Alright, when I told her this..she looked stunned. She was surprised that I told her this. I told her that I wanted her to know everything about me before anything happens between us, assuming if it does. I told her that I REALLY liked her, that she was different than the other girls. I said having sex while not easy is not mission impossible with other girls...that I was looking for something real..than just another bar flake.

So why did I tell all this? Its because she is heading towards the mountains (where we met) and my big mouth dumb ass friend spread the news of my actions in the recent past. I dont want her heading towards the mountains and all of a sudden she finds out that this guy she met turns out to be a devil or something, might as well come clean now.

Alright, so she said that her feelings about me still havent changed regardless of what I said, just a surprise. We go head to McDonalds, and she orders a shit load of stuff. No problem, it still came out to about $5 for me. :) We were still joking around, still some very, VERY light kino as she slowly tapped her leg on my leg and she was facing in my direction with eyes wide open, still smiling, body language VERY GOOD.

We head towards the cab and it was time to drop her off. Right before the cab dropped her off, I said that I wanted to taste her lips and seal this night a good night. She said that things were going to fast (??????????? how is it fast for a good night kiss?? oh, maybe she was playing the whole night and just wanted to be friends??)

Thats the end of story. One of two things:
a) She didnt dig me as a boyfriend type, lover, whatever....perhaps placed too much expectations on me and I didnt deliver. She wants to be (gulp)..FRIENDS.
b) Due to the fact what I told her, she didnt want to seem like a slut or just anothe bar chick in my eyes so she wanted to show me that we are going to go slow for now.

If I had to answer a or b, I would say a. Just another chump. But hey, maybe there is some chance that b is in there thus why Im willing to write all of this bs out into the forums.

I am not a player. In fact, I havent had much experience in the past with girls is just that the past year Ive been put in a situation where I have had some access to meeting more girls, sex and all that. But I want something more..(or do I or am I just in some psychological trance that I need to snap out of?).

Here is my own devils advocate analysis below:
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First off, the girl dug me in the mountains. SHe was curious and wondering why I havent called her and why I did give her a bad number. After calling her, she accepted my reasons and we chit chatted for awhile. When we finally met, she dug me a bit but perhaps not in the same level as we first met. Dont know.

When we finally went to the department store...she still liked me, maybe not head over heels..but in a way like ´this guy is somewhat interesting..lets see how things go'

I blew the deal when I told her ´too much´ about my recent past. Also, she had the advantage when I confessed to her how much I liked her. So now she knows that the game is me chasing her and that im the eager one. Mistake on my part. Also, she didnt want to seem like some other bar girl, one night stand so when I told her about my history with my sex ventures (dumb, stupid of me but I had my stupid reasons..talk about a double negative), she was put off by that like im a dog and that even though I may seem honest in her eyes, she is now cautious with me. Thus when I asked for the kiss it was just in the cheek.

OR she doesnt like me at all other than just a friend. Which im very likely thinking right now, despite all of the good body language and converstation. Sigh...

Even though I feel like shit Ill suck it up and get over it...done it before and will move on.

So what do you all think?
 
Now I know my answer..I think. I actually a feel a little bit better even though I still feel like crap, but good crap if there is ever such a thing.

BEING A MAN:
During the whole time, she was in control of where to go, what time we should go, etc. It was her game that she was playing..and when I asked about her core values....she wanted someone that was a MAN. Not in terms of muscles obviously, but in terms of personality. Obviously, this means taking CONTROL which I fucked up on. And not control where I treat her like a dog..more like Im leading her to x, y and z.

-20 points for me.

PLACING WAY TOO MUCH IMPORTANCE ON HER:
Fucked up BIG TIME here, and once I told her that I really liked her...REALLY liked her then once again I fucked up. Its more interesting for her when Im being persued rather than her. All it does is give her a chance to play A GAME (gulp) thats predictable making it BORING overall.

- 20 points for me

APPEARANCE

I dressed up nicely, open button shirt (black) with jeans and dress shoes. Nothing fancy but well dressed. Hair good and was neatly groomed. Looked pretty good.

-0 points (yup, no plus points for me here since looks after a while especially in the mind of a girl is pointless if personality and all that is not met)

BASIC PERSONALITY

I was funny, interesting...got her to imagine things...she liked it when I told her about my intuition.....got her family to like me..bla bla bla.

PLUS 5 points

(I was funny, interesting all that...but as you can see its not enough to get me where I want to go. Still adds up, but did not take care off other things)

Alright, I think I learned some lessons here (or did I?) and she is heading up to the mountains again and will be back on Monday or so. SHe said she was going to call me when she gets back but I doubt it, she is probably expecting me to call her and still wants to PLAY THE GAME.

Next post will be what to do next. (perhaps the best thing to do is to let it go) And i know that no one cares but I need to get my feelings out.
 
Alright, this is ASSUMING she calls me which LIKELY wont happen.
It will be hard NOT to control my tendencies to call her, but I need to tranquilize my compulsions in every which way possible which I have no idea how that will work out. Nevertheless, Im still going to try.

So she calls me up and says lets go out again.
Now in her mind, she knows that she is being pursued big time and that she is the one being chased. Fair enough.
when she calls me, I will seem somewhat kind of uninterested but still up for game.

SHe will dictate of where we should go, what time, etc. I will change the plans and will offer another plan.
¨Actually, I was thinking we should go to this place. It seems like fun so lets give it a shot. Ill pick up you at 6¨

In our earlier date, she was telling me to say thank you, you are welcome..to be Mr. Manners. ANd sadly enough, I fell for it. This time I will not do that and say that Im sorry, I am who I am and you cannot change that. She may be put off and it may ruin everything, but in the long run it will work out for me. I need to be who I am, not her to mold me.

I am not sure how to approach a kiss or whatever this time around. With this girl especially, I dont have the balls to just plant a kiss when the timing is right thus why I asked in the first place. So Ill see what happens here, but if nothing happens then I ALREADY know the answer for sure (as if I didnt know in the first place...she just wants to be FRIENDS)

This will be the last chance for us to do anything, so whatever happens here is whatever happens. I will be a different person here but I will move on. There are more fish in the sea and even though she was special there will be others.

In the end, she will most likely NOT CALL but if she does then its game.
 
Wow, what the fuck?

You go out on a first date with a girl who you find to be conservative, and you end up telling her that you've had sex with some of the girls you lived with, plus you prosituted yourself out to another girl? LOL!!! Oink oink, my good man!

Man, I have no idea what could've wrong here. It sounded like you were golden.

Here's a bit of advice. Girls are intrigued by a guy who has a bit of mystery to them. You might as well have printed out your DNA code onto a few sheets of paper and handed it to her, along with having all your ex-girlfriends call her up to discusss your favorite sexual position. You went overboard with the conversation. I realize sometimes you can connect with someone very well and talk for hours, but you've still got to maintain some sort of boundaries on the topics of conversation, or you run the risk of scaring them off.

I did enjoy the hell out of your story though. Good luck with the next chick, homie.


I can spell real goodlike.
 
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YOu are right. And thanks for being blunt. I fucked up every which way possible that I can smell dick right under my seat which sucks.

And beforehand, I knew that girls were into a mysterious guy and that giving out all details to a girl is very stupid. It was just that I was afraid of her going back into town and hearing other people how I prostituted myself, had my past affairs..etc, thanks to my big mouth friend.

Again, you are right. WHat a surprise...I tell a conservative girl how I whored myself out and end up with dick in the end.

Thanks for the post.
 
Dude relax she is just another women plenty out there

dont be so damn forward,that type of stuff is what you tell someone you trust not a stranger,and if she had found out then you dont lie but why open a can of worms that arent needed
 
Canadien Oak, thanks for the tip. My problem was that I was a late bloomer in terms of my success with girls. Hardly dated much in high school, college years were good and just the past year or two Ive been turning it up so...

The thing that was really making me think was
(what if she found out that I did this and that?) and I knew she was going to. This is the shit that happens when one is inexperienced like myself.

So I made the wrong choice and told her everything. I did everything else good....she told me her traits of her ideal man (I represented most but still not there), excellent rapport, kino, got her to imagine things which she loved..but yup, fucked up.

Time to move on to the future and just play it cool.
 
Big nose, everything else is nice and good firm body.
She also bought me a few other things too...
I was drunk..she heard through the grapevine that Im ´talented in the bed´ (or maybe im just delusional)

I give her a 5.5. Not nasty, but slightly below average overall. If you are into bodies...she has a nice one...works out, face is not good. I regret it doing it but oh well.
 
And the money was more of a joke thing than me actual prostituting (or was it?)....its not like she paid me $200 to screw here. She treated me out and all.

Yup, this is Jerry Springer shit that I never thought I would ever run into.
 
Thanks.
Yeah, its a numbers game. As I said before, Im new to this shit of dating, going out to clubs...since I was unsuccessful in the past. Worked out in the gym, cleaned myself up, had the balls to approach girls yet still lots of room for improvement.

Im starting to get tired of the nightclub scene and looking to settle down, why I was so stupid and fucked this up since this was a girl who was not a club type. Thus why I layed all of my cards on the table and tried so hard not to fuck anything up. Man...

Oh well, here is to the future.
 
timewilltell said:
I was drunk..she heard through the grapevine that Im ´talented in the bed´ (or maybe im just delusional)
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That's alright man, rumors can be a bitch sometimes. Plus they get all sorts of misconstrued and all hell can break loose. There's a rumor going around that I "like to put it in the ass" without "asking the girl." And when they tell me to stop, I "tell them to 'shut the fuck up' angrily" and "shove their faces harder into the pillow." And when they try to escape I don't "let them leave" and "chain them to the cement support pillars in my basement for weeks." You just have to hope it goes away eventually.
 
Yeah, I know how all that goes. Then there is a rumor on the rumor and it just keeps adding up with different layers of shit. Like a McDonalds hamburger (shitty) that gets added with extra and extra toppings. It gets to a point where you cant pile up any more stuff and the facts cut through the rumors in the end.
 
I dont know where to begin laughingl, the beginning or the end of this thread :lmao:
 
i can't read all that but it sounds like she digs you.

for future reference don't tell a girl you want to taste her lips.
 
You're a dork. Your game is weak. Don't ask for a first kiss...just go for it. Don't offer any information--let her ask for it. Sounds like you did too much talking, as well. Let her carry some of the conversation as well adn stop being so self-centered.

You also sound like you're getting WAY too involved to begin with. Take it more casually, if she hasn't already written you off. The fact that you've written a god damned novel shows how crazy you're being. Relax, breath, and realize that htere's plenty more of htem out there and for christ sakes...Stop sweating over this crap. I don't go for a first kiss onthe first date and any respectable girl shouldn't either.
 
Keep banging your roomies and taking cash from the depressed chick.
 
Are you sure that you are NOT a girl? GEEZE! We overanalyze too much?!

LOL Listen dear. There is NOTHING WRONG with you not having gotten a kiss on the first date.

I am 35, soon2bdivorced mother of four children (so I know exactly how to fuck too), and a dancer.

I NEVER EVER KISS ON THE FIRST DATE - EVER!

Why? Is it because I am a prude? No. It is because of the simple fact that I do NOT like sexually aggressive men. I want to sit there the whole time and think to myself, "When is he going to kiss me? Why isn't he kissing me? Is he going to kiss me now?!" If a man makes the first move REGARDLESS of how much I like him, WE ARE DONE - PERIOD.

The last two men that I had relationships with I knew FOR MONTHS before we ever even had physical contact. Then when we did finally get together I WAS THE ONE WHO ENDED UP PRACTICALLY RAPING THEM!!!

I have been in situations where I have even slept over the guy's apartment (I slept on their couch of course) and we are talking HUG at the end of the date. And I am not talking a hug where I hug with my whole body (that is below the hips).

Just relax.

True, the girl may have been turned off a bit by your sexual past but that doesn't necessarily indicate that she isn't willing to forego that by getting to know you better.

Take a deep breath and stop psychologizing so much. If she digs you then you will get together again, if not, oh well. She is not the first girl that you really liked and she will not be the last.

I think that it is always better for a guy to be TOTALLY cool with making physical moves on a girl than for her to like him but to be turned off because she felt a bit forced to have contact.

Just my .02
 
maybe the problem wasn't her. it was you. you seem to have to have sex with a lot of girls in order to prove you are straight. this in turn exhibits latent homosexuality... see you wrote 16 pages of text on why you did not get a first kiss... this is obsession. the reason you failed this is because subconciously you wanted it to fail. my advice is to start wearing rainbow patches and get some stickers for your car.

there's many colors in the homo rainbow... don't be afraid to let your color's shine through.:rainbow:
 
Hey kid are you familiar with the acronym TMI? You are one pathetic loser! This is what you should do - go to the liquor store and get some Vodka, then go to the grocery store and pick up some extra strength Drano. When you get home, pop in a good movie, get some popcorn, then mix 3 parts of Vodka with 1 part Drano in a shaker with some ice. Drink it slow, feel the burn then go to sleep. Trust me in the morning you will wake up proud to be a man!
 
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havoc said:
Timewilltell - your mind seems to be a product of many years of sniffing Elmer's glue. peace
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Actually, I think Elmer's is odorless ...

Anyway, is this that Finaject dude again? No one with 12 posts ever posts anything this long and annoying ...
 
That sucks, if you could have scored with this chick after taking her to Mcdonald's on a date, I would have given you some mad props...
 
Havoc beat me to it.

I was going to say that DONT POST WHILE UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF SPECIAL K DUDE. J/K Seriously Lots of people obsess on girls they havent had yet - play it cool with her and yourself(mentally). This could become a full time mental obsession if you don't calm down. Look at things from her point of view. What would you do if a girl acted this way with you?(besides banging her anyway) you would think she is COOKOO.

Next step is call her, hope you get her machine, and leave the following message, " This is TimeWillTell, Just wanted to let you know I had a great time taking with you and meeting your family. Give me a call and take care." -(or some calm variation on the above) and don't call her again until you hear from her.

Next time you line up a piece of ass in your crosshairs, think about this idea - "You are in a pond and reaching for a leaf, the more you reach out and aggressively try to grab the leaf, the more the leaf is pushed away by the activity. Instead try to move backward and let the water bring the leaf to you."
Is that a Gay quote for if it is I am truly sorry...
 
supersizeme said:
Wow, what the fuck?

You go out on a first date with a girl who you find to be conservative, and you end up telling her that you've had sex with some of the girls you lived with, plus you prosituted yourself out to another girl? LOL!!! Oink oink, my good man!
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:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
 
What the flying-fuck is "kino" ????????
 
timewilltell said:
YOu are right. And thanks for being blunt. I fucked up every which way possible that I can smell dick right under my seat which sucks.

And beforehand, I knew that girls were into a mysterious guy and that giving out all details to a girl is very stupid. It was just that I was afraid of her going back into town and hearing other people how I prostituted myself, had my past affairs..etc, thanks to my big mouth friend.

Again, you are right. WHat a surprise...I tell a conservative girl how I whored myself out and end up with dick in the end.

Thanks for the post.
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Instead of telling HER about your sex past, you should've told your mountain buddies to keep their mouths shut, and BRIBED them to do just that with the money you whored from that ugly chick. Then, and only then could you have avoided the misfortune of 'scaring' this girl off.
And you should've just fucking kissed her, instead of asking to 'taste' her lips. Yeah this sucks dude, live and learn is all. Next time stay out of those mountains, they seem to be bad karma or something.
 
Well everyone, thanks for the advice once again. Me sniffing glue?? naa...just a bad case of ADD and a host of other shit that circles in my head. Doc always pushes me to try this and that medication but forget it (or maybe not?)

In all honesty, in the past, I would NEVER discuss my sexual affairs of the past or even bring the conversation up its just that I was put in awkward situation. First off the girl tells me how she hates when a guy is not honest and then there was the fucking mountain people ready to spill the beans me. I felt pressured to tell her (advice from a friend was to be honest upfront but its still my fault for following dumb advice) rather then her liking me and then finding out I was this city hustler.

As far as the prostitution thing, it was more of a joke role-play from a girl that happens to have some cash. Also I had assumed she knew beforehand that I make decent cash. But I guess in the eyes of the judge (yeah, even the norm I guess) I accepted cash.I got sex.

Anyway, new update. Came home from work, checked the answering machine and it was her reminding me that there was some kind of festival going on in the mountains this coming Sunday. I cant make since I have shit load of things going on this weekend so Ill just arrange for yet another simple date perhaps to the movies. I really get the hunch that this is *lets just be friends* type deal so maybe I should just drop it and move on. I have several female friends as it is....not to say that I dont want more but I dont want to be friends with a girl that I have a strong attraction too. I agree with most of what you are saying, after a shitty and weird display why on earth would she give me another chance?
 
Oh, speaking off the kiss...I was going to pull right off before I told her about my stupid history. I told her to close her eyes to try to imagine some things (she minors in psychology in college so I brought up the discussion on this general issue) but at first she was scared to do it. She told me that she TRUSTED me not to do anything crazy and implied the message that (I know what you are trying to do, you are trying to kiss me...bla bla) so I didnt push forward. Instead I just switched the topic around and felt it wasnt time for it.

Yes, its geeky, dorky, 3rd grade like to ask for a kiss. Ive done it before with some success in the clubs when the timing was right but unfortunately it didnt work here. Especially with the situation at being.
 
Saint808..you hit it on the nail as well. I always feel like I have to PROVE that Im having sex with girls (subconsciously) which is part of my motivation for trying to get sex with other girls. Ever since high school I was the dude that never got laid, the virgin, etc. It was embarrassing.

Everything is going good with my life...decent living, awesome family, I have one best buddy that is always there for me (have another one with a mouth as big as Rosie ODonnels eyes on a donut after a fast) but I just cant get my shit straight with girls.
Getting from point A to point B in the bed is actually EASIER for me than to meet a really nice girl who can really make you feel awesome. Yeah, it sounds like a bunch of garb especially coming from a guy but thats the truth.

As far as obsession....i guess its not surprising to say that moi´has OCD.
 
Bikinimom hit on the nail with the stuff she said. I also have this mentality that the ´normal ´ girls I meet will behave the same way in the club.

Wayne and Zeus I put her in my shoes and would run to the hills. I have dealt with psycho girls and they do scare the shit out of me. Damn...pass me some of that glue..lots to learn here.
 
And I still end up being lonely in the end there nordstrom. I actually do shitty with woman to this day (I do try though..I try to meet x amount of girls per week and keep that tab in the back of my head) but if you compared me 2 years ago to right now than Im much better now. Its just that every so once and a while I try to do something different or see if this works or that works and usually it ends up screwing me in the end.

I know the BASICS:

Listen to the girl and find out what she truly likes..etc
Smile
Rapport
Dont be quiet but dont be a blabber mouth
Stay on a positive subject
Try to be unique on an emotional level than a scientific-logic level
Let things flow but stay in control (my biggest weakness)

I remembered I turned white, almost fainted, heart pounding way too rapidly on my first date. I didnt even say a word, man was I nervous.

Its one thing to be anxious with girls for the first time but combine that with social anxiety and you might have to call the ER.
 
ALright im getting out of the house tonight and checking out the scene. Ive been depressed lately in the past week or so and I know why..Ive been getting lame and going back to my old self. My old habits showed up with that one mountain girl and I suffered from ¨one itis¨ where I think she is the ONLY one. I fucked up by doing x, y and z so now its time to freshen up my game.

Again, I actually KNOW what to do its just that I wanted opinions and its hard seeing things internally. I busted out my journals of diaries, moleskins (over 2000 pages of writings of what I did with girls) pictures (heehee) and now my confidence is blooming.

If she calls back next week then she does. Ill push her aside for awhile until she coughs up something nice she can offer me.

All jokes aside, if you many of you think that taking a girl to McDonalds is a turn off..then you havent been outside. I took a girl for just milkshakes and apple pie and lets just say I had a rather pleasant evening that night.

Thanks ladies and gentlemen....and for those that flamed me, its all good. Its all for fun in the end.
 
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That sucks, if you could have scored with this chick after taking her to Mcdonald's on a date, I would have given you some mad props...
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She probably eats at McDonalds all the time anyway, whats the big deal? why should men have to impress women by big extravagent dates? that makes it harder for men in general because women will start to think they are some prescious commodity.
 
Yep...men that are so mesmorised by pussy have made it worse for the rest of us by setting a moronic standard
 
supersizeme said:
Wow, what the fuck?

You go out on a first date with a girl who you find to be conservative, and you end up telling her that you've had sex with some of the girls you lived with, plus you prosituted yourself out to another girl? LOL!!! Oink oink, my good man!

Man, I have no idea what could've wrong here. It sounded like you were golden.

Here's a bit of advice. Girls are intrigued by a guy who has a bit of mystery to them. You might as well have printed out your DNA code onto a few sheets of paper and handed it to her, along with having all your ex-girlfriends call her up to discusss your favorite sexual position. You went overboard with the conversation. I realize sometimes you can connect with someone very well and talk for hours, but you've still got to maintain some sort of boundaries on the topics of conversation, or you run the risk of scaring them off.

I did enjoy the hell out of your story though. Good luck with the next chick, homie.


I can spell real goodlike.
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Cruel Intentions

Anybody ever see the movie Cruel Intentions? Some dude and his sister have this diabolical plot (well, I guess all depends on who you ask) revolving around virgins. The guy is tired after screwing the easy girls and is looking for a challenge, so his pursuit is to go after young virgins. Part of it is for his egotistical way of proclaiming true mastermanship in the game. The sister goes around pretending to be a young virgin by acting conservative and wearing a cross (since her thing is to get normal girls to envy her since many guys lust after a young virgin) but who cares what the sister does.

So the guy meets a virgin but then..something begins to happen. He actually begins to fall in love (and again, what is love) with the virgin chick Reese Weatherspoon so his game starts to fade in a sense. His personality, game, aura of charisma swiftly crumbles peice by peice yet he still is attractive in the girls eyes.

And there you go. When I started to go "goo goo-ga ga" over this mountain girl since she pretty much met every standard I want in a girl (I have my list of traits and qualities of the right companion) then my game QUICKLY fade. On top of me having ADD, social phobia, OCD among other shit...then things went chaotic. There is a bunch of shit that happenned that I would never ever have done before with other girls.

When one person said "that is such a lame line"..yeah, guys use lines but I was speaking from the heart. It waS TRUE, after all the X amount of girls Ive been with she was unique, and different. I dont use lines, so if it came out as a line that was my internal projections flaring up. My old self took over instead of my tactical self.

SPeaking of which, had a great night last night. Took a buddy out that maybe a potential business partner of mine and did ok. Really shy, not interesting to girls type guy. Tells me the story of how he when he was in college and high school that he was always the guy that when he went out with his 3 buddies, he was the guy doing best with just the bar while the buddies were screwing the other girls. Got him to dress better, change his body language (back straight, dont look down, dont stick arms to the side like RIchard Simmons, etc..) had him to do the "Eye Test" with at least 10 girls that night (which can be found elsewhere on the net which actually helped me the most but that is a whole other storY) and surprise surprise, he made a few girls blush and broke them into smiles leading into hi's. Got a number and he gave him his email addy (ok, no cell phone).

So when my peeps do good and I fair well in the evening before the start of the weekend then you know the weekend is going to kick ass. Later all!
 
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[color=000080]"Here's the AFC (Average Frustrated Chump) way of asking a girl for a dance (Sound familiar?). The AFC approaches the girl and asks, "would you like to dance?" If she says yes, great! If however she refuses, you're out of luck. You can try and salvage the situation by joining her for a conversation but she has refused you once already so a come-back will be that much harder to do. Or you can just move on, but remember - having other girls see you get rejected diminishes your chances with them even further. Which could result in the ultimate humiliation of moving from girl to girl and asking for a dance and being turned down all the way until you run out of girls! Ok, the latter is unlikely, someone WILL eventually dance with you, but most probably that someone will be (yep, you guessed it) - an UG (Ugly Girl)!"[/color]

[color=000080]George Spellwin, excerpt from Elite Player's Guide to Getting Laid [read more...][/color]
 
The best guide to **getting laid** is to go outside and having balls meeting girls despite the outcome. No book, guide, magic pill (DNP comes close to being the true magic pill if it werent for its harsh side effects) or guru will get you laid unless you are able to approach despite feeling nervous (cold hands, shaky, stomach wrenching, hard to breath).

George, you are a marketing genius slipping in like that ;) Best luck to your biz
 
LMAO,

This thread has to be a gee up. What's with the references to the mountains and mountain people. Do you live in Switzerland?

These mountain people sound like they might be an Amish community.

When i read his thread, i had images of the sound of music in my head, cow bells, rolling green hills, snow covered peaks and shit.
 
Hanging around pick up artists and what tends to happen is that you start to develop a slang for some things or have a way of describing things.


Mountain girl...(suburbs close to a valley, doesnt dress loud, etc)
If im with my wingman Ill say ¨east-west¨if we should ditch the girl or ¨east-east¨ if we should stay with her and continue to work.

Its all for fun my friends, it sure beats playing videogames and watching sci fi movies with popcorn and cola for hours and hours into the night on the weekends. Now with X box live you dont even need friends to play multiplayer, you can be a true caveman.

I used to have to intense battles playing videogames in the weekend night such as the Virtua Figher series or one of the sports game in the 2K series....it was fun but when you dont have a girl with you it stinks. Speaking of which, more and more girls are into gaming then ever before so it makes for a great evening but thats after you and her played Steam Roller in the bed.
 
Please disregard my previous advise. Forget the vodka just drink the drano and die!! That's the only thing that will save us from the diarrhea that is this thread.
 
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