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makers01

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Hi guys i'm very new to these forums.

Let start of my saying that i'm thinking of doing roids 95% sure i been looking at Anadrol everyone tells me that its the best out there but very toxic, also plan on taking Nolvadex(so i wont get man tits). also saw liv 52 for my liver thinking of taking 200mg of b-6 everyday with these. if u can would u give me few ideas or tell me what im missing here or what i should go with. i worked out for 1 year and i have really nothing to show for it. plz would love some help here guys thx
 
If you can not gain naturally you will not see that much fromn steroids either.

Get on a good workout schedual and diet and grow naturally for a while. Start reading magazine on diets and routines for your goals.
 
stay away from drols bro
youv only been training for a year
whats your current diet and training plan look like? we can help you more this way
 
xrsist said:
stay away from drols bro
youv only been training for a year
whats your current diet and training plan look like? we can help you more this way


i eat alot of chicken breast everyday with veggies i take whey two times a day. my training is 5 days a week with two days off. i go heavy (trying to power lift) i did saw gains when i started but now i totaly see nothing any more i want to be big. i should have gotten bigger but i plateaued and nothing really has grown. i started at benching 95 pounds and now im at 160max. i am 5'11 160 pounds i read all these things about how ppl eat good and how much protien they should have each day, i tryed to copy it but nothing is working for me. i push my self alot to get bigger but even with creatine (cell tech) just see a bit and then its gone.
 
makers01 said:
Hi guys i'm very new to these forums.

Let start of my saying that i'm thinking of doing steroids 95% sure i been looking at Anadrol everyone tells me that its the best out there but very toxic, also plan on taking Nolvadex(so i wont get man tits). also saw liv 52 for my liver thinking of taking 200mg of b-6 everyday with these. if u can would u give me few ideas or tell me what im missing here or what i should go with. i worked out for 1 year and i have really nothing to show for it. plz would love some help here guys thx

How do you know this?

How have you been tracking your progress?

Weight? Bodyfat? Bodymeasurments? Increase in the amount of weight you are lifting?

If you go sujectively on what you think or feel, even if you go by what you see in the mirror, your view may be a bit skewed?

Steroids work best with more of a solid base of training, diet and muscle.

Would you mind posting up a typical day's diet and your current training routine?

There are so many things people do when they first start training that can really slow down their progress.

There are loads of knowledgeable people on this board who have been there and done that, I would see if we can sort out what may be the issue that you see your progress as being slow or non-existant.
 
Do not start a oral cycle on Drol. If you have to do this Dbol or Tbol would be a better choice. Regarding you lack of weight gain, its not so important for you as to what you eat but how much you eat. You need to be eating 6-7 smaller meals per day with calories adding up in total to around 4500 Cal or at least over 4000. If you add up your present daily intake using a calorie counter or similar you may find you are not getting anywhere near this. Gear will not help you if this is the case.
 
i love andropen 275 i gained 20lbs in about 4-5weeks. all i did was the 3 b's eat big,lift big,get big.
that stuff is the bomb and will do the job for anyone and there are no side effects that im aware of cause i was perfect on it no acne,lip d1ck,backne or anything like that sh1t.
but do what you want and i would definitly start drinkin more protein and eattin more and liftin more.
good luck
 
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nzrodney said:
Do not start a oral cycle on Anadrol 50 - oxymetholone - . If you have to do this Dianabol - methandrostenolone - or Turanabol would be a better choice. Regarding you lack of weight gain, its not so important for you as to what you eat but how much you eat. You need to be eating 6-7 smaller meals per day with calories adding up in total to around 4500 Cal or at least over 4000. If you add up your present daily intake using a calorie counter or similar you may find you are not getting anywhere near this. Gear will not help you if this is the case.
I agree w/ the first part of your reply, Dianabol has worked wonders for me to get over my platue, however the cals thing needs to be measured.Everyone was telling me to eat 4500 to 5000 cals a day and never new i was only 150 lbs at 5'6''. So as it turned out the reason i couldnt get down that many cals was because my bod didnt need it. Go to a calculater and figure out your Bmi, I needed 1700 cals tyo stay at my current w/out gain or loss of weight, so i now double that on cycle..And it worked ! Clean cals too! I got my weight up to 170 w/out AS, in two months, and my BF was 11.7 %, thats how toi go about it. Then later talk about As !
 
Hey bro, Listen

You've been training a year and have no results?? It sounds to me like your diet is not in check. What is your diet and training look like? Also what are your current stats? Weight, height...said your age was 26. You can not grow if you are not eating enough....period. With or without juice. I think you should also go natural for at least 2 years to see what your body responds to. If you train hard and get enough food, your body will have no choice but to grow. I've been training a little over 2 years and I gained around 40 lbs in lean mass, but you have to have the total package for it to work. Weights, Food, And REST. Also..are you getting enough sleep at night. That will also kill your gains. Hope this has helped. Good luck bro.
 
Training for 1 year still makes you a noob, so you're still learning how your body responds to lifting. I think you should train for at least 1 more year before you jump into the steroid game.

But, when you do, I would recommend d-bol over anadrol since its a little less liver toxic.
 
IDE say eat clean as Hell and train like a beast for at least 6 more months before using aas. And when you do try your first cycle don't use drol. Abombs are not for newbies.
 
as tatyana has said bro please post up your current diet meal by meal. i see you said you train like a power lifter.. maybe you should train like a body builder for a while..
 
First, save yourself a lot of time and money and read this: http://www.elitefitness.com/reports/truth/

Secondly, if you know drol is the most toxic why would you want to start out with it?

Thirdly, Nolvaa does nothing to prevent the prog sides of droll.

What supps have you tried?

You have a lot to learn.
 
hello guys again, wow thank you so much for all the info.
yes i know am still a noobie to the bodybuilding scene and even more when it comes to supps. i taken phosphagen elite(creatine), cell tech hardcore, leukic, gakic, N.O explode, and animal pack. i stoped taking N.O cause it just raped my stomach. cell tech was good when i started but then a guy in the gym told me that it retained alot of water and i stoped taking and i saw that my growth just droped after i stoped taking it. leukic and gakic work fine for me i feel more solid when i take them, Phosphagen i just started to test not so sure its working for me. i been thinking maybe it is my training and my food intake im no way near 4000-5000 cal. my training mainly focuses on my chest triceps biceps shoulders forarms, thats 5 times a week, maybe i should drop it to 4 times a week and get more rest as for my sleep its good i get about 8-9 hrs each day. well if u guys can think of any other supps that i should try i am in ur hands and i would try then cause i like to listen and see what am doing wrong, as for why take anadrol first, its cause everyone told me its the best out there so i said "what the hell its the best out there why not then" yes i know very noobie of me but like i said just go with what i hear ppl use. i will review my training and my diet ill try to get 6 meals a day in. thank you for the help and yes maybe i will go for 2years and then if not does not go well im get some gear, if u guys can would u tell me which are good for starting.

Thank Guys every bit of info helps
 
bro you need to squat and deadlift. go check out the training forum on this site for some more ideas.

basic list of food you should be eating ED,
red meat, chicken, tuna/salmon, eggs, oatmeal, brown rice, fruit, vegies (esp greens), salads, milk. protein shake after training and before sleep.

dont worry about other supplements just yet, just get your diet and training dialed in first bro
 
xrsist said:
bro you need to squat and deadlift. go check out the training forum on this site for some more ideas.

basic list of food you should be eating ED,
red meat, chicken, tuna/salmon, eggs, oatmeal, brown rice, fruit, vegies (esp greens), salads, milk. protein shake after training and before sleep.

dont worry about other supplements just yet, just get your diet and training dialed in first bro


thx i will be going shopping for more protein and everything else u wrote up there. will start to dead lift and squat. thx again.
 
I agree with xrsist. You need to work those legs with Squats and do deadlifts. Those are major mass builders!! When your legs grow...your whole body grows. Make sure to consume about 20 calories per pound you weigh for mass building. Creatine causes you to retain water, but this is not so bad, as it helps to you be stronger. Protein is a must. I'd probably make 2-3 shakes a day of something like Optimum Nutrition Pro Complex Gainer. Its one of my favorites and mixed with water easily. Don't forget your solid food meals too!!

Good Luck
 
I'd say workout for a year or two and research steroids thoroughly before getting on the juice....this is the major leagues
 
He also said he is training his chest,arms, and forearms 5 times a week.. I bet his training program needs a huge overhaul.
 
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