HEART RATE HIGH, should i stop

[warrior08]

ok here the deal i was running two days ago doing some hard intervals and about 10 min in i had a tightness in my chest. so i stoped and did some light walking instead.

then yesterday i did a back workout then 45 min of eliptical work and about an hr or so later i just had a really werid feeling. hard toexplain but just felt really uneasy.

so i went to my girl friends house and used her mother blood pressure machine my first reading was something like 190 over 90 with like a 99 pulse. so then i took it againg and it was worst. but i just got done eating and i was pretty nervous.

so after that i went to hannafords and used there machine and i got an average reading of 165 over 72 with a 90 pulse.

then this morning as soon as i woke up i used the machine and my reading was 145 over 72 with a 78 pulse. this looked much better

Im 23 6ft 238lb been lifting fo over 6 years and im running 500mg of test enth with a anadrol kicker of 50mg on workout days.just did the drol for 3 weeks.

what should i do i have anohter planned inject tmr but im thinking of just stoping everything all together. im on the 5 th week on my cycle.

thanks guys really need some input! o yea just started taking lipid stable. SHOULD I STOP?

 

[joe d]

keep taking the lipid stable for now. i would end the cycle and do what you need to do to get bp down. this issue ignored will sooner or later lead to death. high bp is serous. i personally like ai cycle support along with lipid stable on cycle.

you should also be eating fruits and veggies throughout the day along with oats. for protein eat boiled chicken seasoned with garlic. take a baby asprin every night before bed and take fish oil. check your bp 3x per day. if it doesnt go down or it gets worst get to a doctor right away. it may be a good idea to go to a doctor now.

also dont use those machines to check bp get the manual cuff with the stethoscope and gauge. some of those machines are pieces of shit.

 

[goal245]

Hawthorne berries will help with high blood pressure and are very good for cardiovascular health. They are used in heart failure patients and studies show they greatly improve cardiac function. You should seriosly consider taking 2-3 grams of Hawthorne berries

The high heart rate could be the result of putting on lots of weight fast, which i assume you did since you are running anadrol. On one of my bulks i put on 65lbs in 12 weeks and towords the end my heart rate would not go down below 90bpm. In the next few month it gradually lowered itself to mid 50's.

 

[DJ_UFO]

Dude. Those are some dangerous reading for your heart. Most probably coming from drol, but I would advise you to completely stop. Also, you are too heavy for 6' tall. How much is your body fat?

 

[st8grad]

I would bet you are experiencing some anxiety symptoms from being freaked out by this too. That isn't helping your BP and certainly could be contributing to high resting heart rate. That "uneasy feeling" is many times a panic attack or I guess a mild panic attack. You started worrying about the tightness in your chest, your heart started to flutter, you worried about that, adrenaline starts pumping, you breath too rapidly, you get dizzy.

But, with that being said, I would stop the cycle too and see hope those numbers come back in line. I would check out an herbal diuretic too. The water weight from drol can be crazy and that just by itself could be the cause of all this.

Start your PCT now and monitor those numbers. If they don't improve quickly and/or you feel like shit I would head to the doctor.

 

[warrior08]

ok im def gonna stop the cycle now but my question is should i do my pct??? cuase i heard the anti - e can be hard on ur heart and stuff too. i was palnning hcgenerate , nolvadex, and clomid. also what do you guys recommand doing workout wise should i contuine to lift and do cardio but just alittle bit easier or should i just stop completely?? dj ufo my bf is like 14% high but not to crazy. thanks guys

 

[warrior08]

just took my blood pressure it was 143 over 66 with an 88 pulse. after eating. im on my way to go get those hawthorne berries and extra fish oil. fucking anadrol

 

[timtim]

just took my blood pressure it was 143 over 66 with an 88 pulse. after eating. im on my way to go get those hawthorne berries and extra fish oil. fucking anadrol

yes, of course its the anadrol. couldnt be that maybe your diet is way off or youre too heavy for your height. 6 foot at 240 with 14% bf is monsterous. knowing how the internet works, its probably closer to 20%.

 

[LiquidPhire]

Yea bro I ended up coming off completely for awhile when I was on for an extended period of time due to my heart rate and BP was so high. Anyway.. Its a good idea to chill when things are getting serious at those levels. But we all know you will do what you wanna do..

 

[ALIN]

ok here the deal i was running two days ago doing some hard intervals and about 10 min in i had a tightness in my chest. so i stoped and did some light walking instead.

then yesterday i did a back workout then 45 min of eliptical work and about an hr or so later i just had a really werid feeling. hard toexplain but just felt really uneasy.

so i went to my girl friends house and used her mother blood pressure machine my first reading was something like 190 over 90 with like a 99 pulse. so then i took it againg and it was worst. but i just got done eating and i was pretty nervous.

so after that i went to hannafords and used there machine and i got an average reading of 165 over 72 with a 90 pulse.

then this morning as soon as i woke up i used the machine and my reading was 145 over 72 with a 78 pulse. this looked much better

Im 23 6ft 238lb been lifting fo over 6 years and im running 500mg of test enth with a anadrol kicker of 50mg on workout days.just did the drol for 3 weeks.

what should i do i have anohter planned inject tmr but im thinking of just stoping everything all together. im on the 5 th week on my cycle.

thanks guys really need some input! o yea just started taking lipid stable. SHOULD I STOP?

Keep an eye on that high BP and pulse. You dont want it getting outta hand.

 

[Dial_tone]

There's lots of ancillaries for BP and the heart. You should always take those from day 1 on cycle and not wait for symptoms.

 

[warrior08]

yea ill be checking it 3x day from now on and stoping my cycle. so what does everyone think should i contuine to lift or not?

and timtim yes my bf is 14 just measued it like 3 times i played d1 football (fullback) so i have pretty thic legs and shoulders. but ur right i think i was eating waytoo much red meat.

 

[timtim]

yea ill be checking it 3x day from now on and stoping my cycle. so what does everyone think should i contuine to lift or not?

and timtim yes my bf is 14 just measued it like 3 times i played d1 football (fullback) so i have pretty thic legs and shoulders. but ur right i think i was eating waytoo much red meat.

if youre that big and your bp has been that high, get a home monitor and keep watch. some of those readings are alarmingly high. youre way too young for that bp. it happened to me when i was pushing things. i had to drop 20 pounds and reassess my goals. youre already a large guy, take less harsh aas and get ripped up.

 

[joe d]

yea ill be checking it 3x day from now on and stoping my cycle. so what does everyone think should i contuine to lift or not?

and timtim yes my bf is 14 just measued it like 3 times i played d1 football (fullback) so i have pretty thic legs and shoulders. but ur right i think i was eating waytoo much red meat.

i would go high rep and stay away from squats and deads.

 

[warrior08]

ok sounds good ill just keep checking my bp and stick to some high rep stuff. im really going to start try to lean up as much as possblie so im really going to bump up my cardio but keep it at an low to moderate intensity.

 

[warrior08]

do u guys think that i should start my pct right now?

 

[joe d]

do u guys think that i should start my pct right now?

i would treat your last dose of whatever you took the least day o your cycle. so run pct as it was planned from that point.

 

[warrior08]

ok sounds good thanks

 

[Loths]

Hawthorne berries will help with high blood pressure and are very good for cardiovascular health. They are used in heart failure patients and studies show they greatly improve cardiac function. You should seriosly consider taking 2-3 grams of Hawthorne berries

The high heart rate could be the result of putting on lots of weight fast, which i assume you did since you are running anadrol. On one of my bulks i put on 65lbs in 12 weeks and towords the end my heart rate would not go down below 90bpm. In the next few month it gradually lowered itself to mid 50's.

I recently had and issue with bloop pressure, I have finally figure it out (check my last week post on it)... but I never tried this hawthorne berries... Need to give it a try!

 

[Loths]

Dude. Those are some dangerous reading for your heart. Most probably coming from drol, but I would advise you to completely stop. Also, you are too heavy for 6' tall. How much is your body fat?

Dude, Listen to DJ UFO... DANGEROUS READINGS.. I check my on BP with Professiona Grade, DIAL type, pressuge gauge.. and the highest I ever had was 170 over 100... at that point I was RED as hell... felt like my bodie and veins soo tigh (and NO, no that pump tighenss we all love)... Feel soo tired and sleepy... and the heaches.. shit.. I was scare... I can not even imagine what will be to be on 190/90... This is serious!

 

[Loths]

OK, This is going to be a lengthy reply… but bear with me..

I have been on TRT (testosterone 200 mg a week) for several years to treat a condition... basically my body converted testosterone to estrogen in an unbalance why... I had low natural testosterone levels, and the little I had was converted to estrogen in high rate...

As all who have been on steroids for years can tell you, be self impose or due to medical reason... side effects tend to increase with time… and yes… Even with medical dosages… as my case was...

Last 8 months I notices my skin was always read, my phase was extremely puffy, and I was always tired... I check my BP and was why high… about 170/100... I tried to reduce the clinical dosage to 100 mg, and it helped, but then the reason I was on TRT came back in a NASTY WAY... so, I returned to 200 mg,, sure enough, High BP came back... tried catapres to lower BP… and it helped a little, but I was more tired, very emotional, and guess what? Catapress increase my water retention... Tried other BP meds, like Valsartan and Losartan.. they work better... still made me tired and weak... and felt weird.

A doctor recommended a diuretic (aldactone)... that worked GREAT... but pulled so much water of the body, that my muscles were flat and I had no endurance. I felt like a nickel cadmium battery… One thing I did notice was my skin was better, which intrigue me... since one of the thing I had to accept while been on TRT is the skin conditions (bigger pores)... I did a little search and found that aldactone is an Androgen antagonist.... NOOOOoooooooo

So I was back and forth... with this... Decide to loose some weight.. and tried for 4 weeks the Clen,Ephedrine,T3, and ketotifen combo (nope, I am not scare of drug, since I always start with very, very low dosage to monitor to weight their benefit to side effect ratio, and find if there is a middle ground I can live with... PLUS... complete blood works every four month)... O.K... Going back... I lost allot of fat, keep 95% of the muscles... and though this medications do increase blood pressure, I was a bit overweight, and with the weight gone, the BP when down to 150/90.. Still high.. but better.


I was still not please with the BP, but more in terms for cosmetics... 150/90 is a little above bother line... and I can manage it for now….but water retention....

I added a little novaldex… it helped... but not like Aldactone… and I did like not having a puffy face and the smooth skin.... So I was doing better, but not quite there yet...

So, did more reading on this post, read a big one on arimedex... and remembered that I treated two gyno occasions (due to deca) with Letrozol (shit, it reversed those emerging bitch tits)....

It all came together... BP was high on my case due to high conversion to estrogen, causing water retention...so since the diuretic solved the problem, but added another, and novaldex worked but not as the diuretic... and since letrozole is in the same class as arimidex (and i had some letro pills on hang)... i decied to tried it... and guess what.. It worked, but too well… the suppression of estrogen was too high (and the fact that I cannot afford 4 generation estrogen antagonist for daily usage: arimidex/femara).... So adjusted the dosage to 0.65 (1/4 the pill) and added 6.25 aldactone... PROBLEM SOLVE…
BP is 135/80, water retention is the a minimum (no puffy face), still get the benefit of the medical dosage of 200 mg, still able to eat nicely (moderately of red meat, cheese, fried food, coffee,), training hard and get that bonus pump, do some sports, drink responsible on the weekend, and yes… my Weekend CIGAR is a most…. To sum… try to balance everything so I can still get the quality of life I want.
Again, sorry to the lengthy post, this is a very interesting topic, and I want to share some views. Bear in mind that my condition is different, and all humans react different to medication. I don’t recommend you do what I have done…. But having said this…you have taken the AA path…
At the end, my best comments is….life is to precious.. And as with everything.. if you abuse it, you will pay the price… be steroids, Tobacco, Alcohol, food, medicines, you name it. The key is balance… weigh the pros and the cons, and make a decision.
In specifics, stopping all together is not a good idea un less is threatening your life… and if not, and you must stop, PCT is a most!....
And idea is to drop one of the AA you are taking… Anadrol will be good, lower the TEST dosage to half…. Just to set a starting point and see how your body reacts… you can the accommodate the TEST dosage and decide with you want to add anadrol, or the like…
Great question. Hope all this helps!

ok here the deal i was running two days ago doing some hard intervals and about 10 min in i had a tightness in my chest. so i stoped and did some light walking instead.

then yesterday i did a back workout then 45 min of eliptical work and about an hr or so later i just had a really werid feeling. hard toexplain but just felt really uneasy.

so i went to my girl friends house and used her mother blood pressure machine my first reading was something like 190 over 90 with like a 99 pulse. so then i took it againg and it was worst. but i just got done eating and i was pretty nervous.

so after that i went to hannafords and used there machine and i got an average reading of 165 over 72 with a 90 pulse.

then this morning as soon as i woke up i used the machine and my reading was 145 over 72 with a 78 pulse. this looked much better

Im 23 6ft 238lb been lifting fo over 6 years and im running 500mg of test enth with a anadrol kicker of 50mg on workout days.just did the drol for 3 weeks.

what should i do i have anohter planned inject tmr but im thinking of just stoping everything all together. im on the 5 th week on my cycle.

thanks guys really need some input! o yea just started taking lipid stable. SHOULD I STOP?

 

[needtogetaas]

ok here the deal i was running two days ago doing some hard intervals and about 10 min in i had a tightness in my chest. so i stoped and did some light walking instead.

then yesterday i did a back workout then 45 min of eliptical work and about an hr or so later i just had a really werid feeling. hard toexplain but just felt really uneasy.

so i went to my girl friends house and used her mother blood pressure machine my first reading was something like 190 over 90 with like a 99 pulse. so then i took it againg and it was worst. but i just got done eating and i was pretty nervous.

so after that i went to hannafords and used there machine and i got an average reading of 165 over 72 with a 90 pulse.

then this morning as soon as i woke up i used the machine and my reading was 145 over 72 with a 78 pulse. this looked much better

Im 23 6ft 238lb been lifting fo over 6 years and im running 500mg of test enth with a anadrol kicker of 50mg on workout days.just did the drol for 3 weeks.

what should i do i have anohter planned inject tmr but im thinking of just stoping everything all together. im on the 5 th week on my cycle.

thanks guys really need some input! o yea just started taking lipid stable. SHOULD I STOP?

what steroids are you taking? eq?

 

[needtogetaas]

ok here the deal i was running two days ago doing some hard intervals and about 10 min in i had a tightness in my chest. so i stoped and did some light walking instead.

then yesterday i did a back workout then 45 min of eliptical work and about an hr or so later i just had a really werid feeling. hard toexplain but just felt really uneasy.

so i went to my girl friends house and used her mother blood pressure machine my first reading was something like 190 over 90 with like a 99 pulse. so then i took it againg and it was worst. but i just got done eating and i was pretty nervous.

so after that i went to hannafords and used there machine and i got an average reading of 165 over 72 with a 90 pulse.

then this morning as soon as i woke up i used the machine and my reading was 145 over 72 with a 78 pulse. this looked much better

Im 23 6ft 238lb been lifting fo over 6 years and im running 500mg of test enth with a anadrol kicker of 50mg on workout days.just did the drol for 3 weeks.

what should i do i have anohter planned inject tmr but im thinking of just stoping everything all together. im on the 5 th week on my cycle.

thanks guys really need some input! o yea just started taking lipid stable. SHOULD I STOP?

ok never mind I just found out no eq lol

 

[needtogetaas]

ok here the deal i was running two days ago doing some hard intervals and about 10 min in i had a tightness in my chest. so i stoped and did some light walking instead.

then yesterday i did a back workout then 45 min of eliptical work and about an hr or so later i just had a really werid feeling. hard toexplain but just felt really uneasy.

so i went to my girl friends house and used her mother blood pressure machine my first reading was something like 190 over 90 with like a 99 pulse. so then i took it againg and it was worst. but i just got done eating and i was pretty nervous.

so after that i went to hannafords and used there machine and i got an average reading of 165 over 72 with a 90 pulse.

then this morning as soon as i woke up i used the machine and my reading was 145 over 72 with a 78 pulse. this looked much better

Im 23 6ft 238lb been lifting fo over 6 years and im running 500mg of test enth with a anadrol kicker of 50mg on workout days.just did the drol for 3 weeks.

what should i do i have anohter planned inject tmr but im thinking of just stoping everything all together. im on the 5 th week on my cycle.

thanks guys really need some input! o yea just started taking lipid stable. SHOULD I STOP?

this shit happens all the time bro. You got high blood pressure and when the cycle is over it will pass.

 

[warrior08]

ok so i took my blood pressure again this morning as soon as i woke up and it was 145/72 with a 72 pulse. still feel alittle bit funny in my chest (could just be in my head). i have been checking it through out the day for the last 2 days and its never been aboout 170/80. most in the 150-160/ 70-80 range. i didnt inject today and was planning on stoping and starting my pct in two weeks. but my pressure has been alittle bit high but nothing crazy. should i just cut the test to 250mg a week and slowly back off. im on week 5 and i stop the anadrol over 2 weeks ago. thanks guys

 

[warrior08]

bump

 

[timtim]

still pretty high. its up to you though. are you taking an ai? that may reduce the bloat and help lower your bp.

 

[warrior08]

i have adex on hand but i think im going to just stop. id rather be safe then sorry imonly 23 and got plenty of time ahead of me. now im just going to focus on getting cut. do u think i should take some adex any way eod for a week or so just to drop some bloat???

 

[timtim]

i have adex on hand but i think im going to just stop. id rather be safe then sorry imonly 23 and got plenty of time ahead of me. now im just going to focus on getting cut. do u think i should take some adex any way eod for a week or so just to drop some bloat???

you could use the adex during pct for the first 2 to 3 weeks. it souldnt hurt and would help with recovery. good thinking getting the bp under control first. you have plenty of time.

 

[warrior08]

thanks timtim. once i start my pct next week im going to do .5 every 3rd for 2 weeks. thanks bro

 

[DJ_UFO]

yeah adex will help with the recovery. And like someone else said, is up to you, but if it was me, I would stop the cycle.