HCG - Human Chorionic Gonadotrophin

[The Iron Game]

Can anyone tell me why this should come into play on any cycle? I just cant understand why I see so many people who have completed an 8 week cycle shooting this stuff to try and maintain gains. In my opinion it is worthless and I want you to tell me why it isnt!

Peace

 

[BigPsyco]

HCG is good for a mid cycle boost in natural test. It can prevent total testicular hypertrophy in the middle of a cycle. Clomid is still needed post cycle, it is not a substitute for it
There is a good reason

 

[The Iron Game]

did you say mid cycle boost in test? do you not mean estrogen?

hcg will only serve to delay natural test production.

 

[BigPsyco]

It delays it correct, but it also gives your natural test a "fake" boost, so when you are on a heavy enough cycle where complete shutdown is a concern that boost can be beneficial. As far as it delaying recovery, you use it mid cycle when your body has already stopped producing test, and as your natural test increases so does your estro,
I do not currently use it because i dont feel i take anywhere near the doses for complete shutdown but i could definately see someone who bridges cycles and is in the 3 gram range can use it beneficially

 

[CYCLEON]

IG lonly reason i can see using it is if u have been running a long or very hard cycle and post cycle u need to get the hpta producing again. the clomid will help but if youve shut it down hard it can help u get going faster than clomid alone. that said, im not a big dose monster so i never have needed it - clomid has always been fine.

 

[The Iron Game]

I agree but even when used for very extended cycles it will still have the same problems. It is artificial, it serves no real purpose. On another note I wasnt so refering to such long cycles but all the 8-10 week cycles and people with no clomid but hcg instead. This thread is going to be a very long one.

"When pharmacological amounts of human chorionic gonadotropin (hCG) are administered to normal men, direct secretion of estradiol by the testis increases in proportion to the enhancement of testosterone secretion [J Clin Inves 1971; 53:1-6]."

Doc Mark

 

[BigPsyco]

There is no purpose for hcg in a cycle that is <12weeks

 

[liquidmuscle]

clomid wasnt enough for me last cycle i wish i wouldve had some on hand but there is always next time...

 

[BigPsyco]

clomid wasnt enough for me last cycle i wish i wouldve had some on hand but there is always next time...

It only would have delayed the inevitable, thats what we are talking about, it is only effective when used mid cycle to prevent complete shutdown, otherwise if you plan on being off, then just stick with clomid

 

[liquidmuscle]

so on a 8wk cycle when would it be wise to add the hcg,,maybe wk 6?? like i had mentioned before i lost all sex drive and lost almost all of my gains on my last cycle i need to know how to prevent this from happening again, i tried tribulus,yada yad yada,,what can help me