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sexy_olympia

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Hi there i'm starting my hard gainer cycle coming monday it will be 12-13 weeks long my stats are

6 foot 1
229 Pounds
8% BF (dieted hard before cycle)
about to do 8th Cycle

I am an experienced user but i needed some help with some new compounds im taking like arimidex, dostinex and t3 and i needed to know how much i need to dose these 2 in my cycle which is below please advice me as much as you can i would really appreciate it im always open for opinions :)

week 1-12 Test Enanthate 750mg ew
week 1-12 Equipose 800mg ew
week 1-12 Masteron Enanthate 800mg ew
week 1-6 Trenbolone Enanthate 600mg ew
week 7-12 NPP 500mg ew
week 11-13 Test Prop 500mg ew

week 1-3 Anadrol 150mg ed
week 4-7 Dianabol 50mg ed
week 8-11 Turanabol 60mg ed week 12 80mg ed

week 1-8 ECA 2 caps ed
week 1-6 T3 25mg ED
week 1-12 Arimidex .5mg eod
week 1-12 Dostinex .5mg eod
week 9-14 Clenbuterol 120-140 mcg ed

Supplements
Vitamin c
Vitamin B6
Vitamin E
Multi Vit
Omega fatty acids
BCAA
Green Tea
Cod Liver Oil
Liv 5.2ds
Milk Thistle
Arginine
Zinc
CLA
Chromium Picolonate
ECA 8 weeks
Grapeseed
Hawthorne
Saw Palmetto

This is my entire cycle i also will hit hcg through the cycle my diet is very clean and i will be hitting cardio 3-4 times a week. Now my question is looking at my cycle and according to my doses how much dosti and adex should be used to avoid as much as water retention/unwanted fat and also not so much that it will hinder gains, my other question is about t3 which i am very confused of i dont want to take anything that will hinder my gains even slight as i will be working my ass of cooking and eating every 2 hours and training hardcore but yeah i was told of cycle t3 is anabolic at 25mcg and catabolic if more is taken and on cycle 50mg is anabolic and catabolic if more is taken ? please clear that for me and do let me know how much to run i would appreciate it. I will be drinking about 5-6 litres of water daily and will be eating alot of really helping and special fruits and veggies in my cycle etc as i said my diet is very expensive and clean lol. Also the funny thing is i exactly have 63 tabs of adrol and adrol is super effective for the first 3 weeks after that the gainings drop quite nicely so yeah just wanted to clear that but anyway please let me know asap im really excited thanks guys.
 
bro all i can say is way to many compounds such an unecassary cycle i dont even know what to think or say about this... Also you do not need to run dostinex eod for 12 weeks! wow! Talk about confusing your hormones, maybe the first 3 compounds only 1 oral and run the adex eod and thats about it......... Sorry bro but thats way overboard imho.........
 
yes sony190 i can understand your concern and i am thankful, but honestly i have ran a simillar cycle twice before i even used halotestin i dotn get liver toxic that much i always check my values after a cycle and they are fine sometime just slightly high i am running these compounds as i have experimented with all of the injectables and they all do something different again i appreciate your ardvice but i would even more appreciate it if i could get heads up on my questions and soem advice for this cycle i have everything on hand i literally feeling taking drol now i love it haha but only 2 days to go :D so i will be patient
 
sexy_olympia said:
Hi there i'm starting my hard gainer cycle coming monday it will be 12-13 weeks long my stats are

6 foot 1
229 Pounds
8% BF (dieted hard before cycle)
about to do 8th Cycle

I am an experienced user but i needed some help with some new compounds im taking like arimidex, dostinex and t3 and i needed to know how much i need to dose these 2 in my cycle which is below please advice me as much as you can i would really appreciate it im always open for opinions :)

week 1-12 Test Enanthate 750mg ew
week 1-12 Equipose 800mg ew
week 1-12 Masteron Enanthate 800mg ew
week 1-6 Trenbolone Enanthate 600mg ew
week 7-12 NPP 500mg ew
week 11-13 Test Prop 500mg ew

week 1-3 Anadrol 150mg ed
week 4-7 Dianabol 50mg ed
week 8-11 Turanabol 60mg ed week 12 80mg ed

week 1-8 ECA 2 caps ed
week 1-6 T3 25mg ED
week 1-12 Arimidex .5mg eod
week 1-12 Dostinex .5mg eod
week 9-14 Clenbuterol 120-140 mcg ed

Supplements
Vitamin c
Vitamin B6
Vitamin E
Multi Vit
Omega fatty acids
BCAA
Green Tea
Cod Liver Oil
Liv 5.2ds
Milk Thistle
Arginine
Zinc
CLA
Chromium Picolonate
ECA 8 weeks
Grapeseed
Hawthorne
Saw Palmetto

This is my entire cycle i also will hit hcg through the cycle my diet is very clean and i will be hitting cardio 3-4 times a week. Now my question is looking at my cycle and according to my doses how much dosti and adex should be used to avoid as much as water retention/unwanted fat and also not so much that it will hinder gains, my other question is about t3 which i am very confused of i dont want to take anything that will hinder my gains even slight as i will be working my ass of cooking and eating every 2 hours and training hardcore but yeah i was told of cycle t3 is anabolic at 25mcg and catabolic if more is taken and on cycle 50mg is anabolic and catabolic if more is taken ? please clear that for me and do let me know how much to run i would appreciate it. I will be drinking about 5-6 litres of water daily and will be eating alot of really helping and special fruits and veggies in my cycle etc as i said my diet is very expensive and clean lol. Also the funny thing is i exactly have 63 tabs of adrol and adrol is super effective for the first 3 weeks after that the gainings drop quite nicely so yeah just wanted to clear that but anyway please let me know asap im really excited thanks guys.
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HOLY SH*T bro!! That is WAY WAY to freaking large a cycle!!!!

I don't even know what to say to that..? Almost 4 gms of gear + orals...

I can say is don't! No really, don't do it!!
 
lol sorry for shocking you guys on my previous cycle kidna simillar i gained close to 30 pounds and lost about 4-5 during pct which was water . Okay arimidex at 1mg eod wont hinder my gains ?, dostinex .5mg monday and thursday or 1mg i was advised to hit 1mg due to my use of high dose tren, then again your the judge and finally in this cycle what is the maximum amount of t3 i can take that wont be catabolic and stop me from gaining. Finally believe it or not my previous previous cycle i didnt run any ai only pct but on that cycle i put on an ass load of water i wasnt even using masteron just adrol, sust, deca and tren ace in the beginning luckily i only did tren a for 4 weeks as i started to feel problems then i stopped and i recovered perfectly during pct.
 
If you're a hard gainer, why are you using clen and T3?

You may be experienced but your experience has been doing it wrong.
 
sony190 said:
Ok brother if you insist, here ya go.....
Arimidex eod 1mg
Dostinex e4d .5mg
T3 20-40mcg ed
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Like i said if you insist follow the above also the AI will keep you somewhat dry (a good thing lol) if i didnt run an AI in your "previous previos cycle" i would be wearing a d cup lol..... Anyways yea .5 of Caber is plenty as a preventative measure it destroys prolactin bro, also again follow above T3 however extensive use i feel is also unecassary........ I dont like hcg either bro lol sorry......
 
sexy_olympia said:
also can someone be kind enough to pm me a source where i can grab hcg at a nice price as my source are out of stock now jsut checked SHIT just hook me up with the link and ill grab it straight away im in london by the way thanks
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No source checks. Go to elitebodiez. Might want to edit before you get banned.
 
Not trying to bash the original poster, but this is just plain wrong.

The proposed cycle is ridiculous.

The claimed 30 pound gain on a previous cycle of similar size is questionable.

I am all for helping each other out, that is what EF is about. However I think we'd be doing a disservice by implying this kind of AAS use is acceptable.
 
lol hardgainer? More like overkill!
 
Sexy, first off I wanna say that we are not bashing you.
Would you mind if I ask did you or someone else set this cycle up for you?
I also wanna say you call youreslf a hard gainer, however I also want to tell you that you are within 1 lb of me in body wieght at the same height. I am 12% bf and 50 yea old.
Below in red Im gonna put my comments on your cycle.

week 1-12 Test Enanthate 750mg ew Ok, maybe even 800?
week 1-12 Equipose 800mg ew Nah loose this.
week 1-12 Masteron Enanthate 800mg ew OK.
week 1-6 trenbolone Enanthate 600mg ew WAY TOO MUCH! dont need it, loose it.
week 7-12 NPP 500mg ew Ok, either this or Deca, dose is a little high but ok.
week 11-13 test prop 500mg ew Wasting your money on this.

week 1-3 anadrol 150mg ed Danger Danger Danger way too much, loose it!
week 4-7 dianabol 50mg ed
week 8-11 Turanabol 60mg ed week 12 80mg ed Either Or, not both.

week 1-8 ECA 2 caps ed
week 1-6 T3 25mg ED
week 1-12 Arimidex .5mg eod Ok
week 1-12 dostinex .5mg eod 2x/week unless indicated otherwise
week 9-14 Clenbuterol 120-140 mcg ed Nah loose it.

Would like to see your diet, but I think you should consider these ideas.
Do not eat more then 5-6 meals per day. If you do your are making youreself a blast furnace for calories. You in your case need to eat really big meals, as much food per sitting as you can stand. This will help to slow your metabolism. Allow yourself 2 shakes per day, but each shake needs to have in it, 1 Tbs olive oil. 1Tbs natty penut butter. 4 scoops protien and mix with whole milk.
Carry a baggie of nuts with you all day every day and eat them all you want.
Carry a baggie with a couple of hard boiled eggs in it. Eat at least 2/day.
Your breakfast needs to be massive. At least 6 eggs, bacon or sausage, 4 pcs whole grain toast or pancakes or waffles. You get the idea, YOU NEED TO EAT A SHIT LOAD OF FOOD BRO!
Lunch huge too.
Dinner the same, but between 6:00 and 7:00 at night, the later the better.
Dont be afraid to eat pretty much whatever you want. If you really are a hard gainer youre not gonna get fat.
Post up your work out. For you LESS IS MORE! Again you need to slow down your metabolism.

I hope you will post back on this so that we can help you out and hopefully convince you to be nicer to yourself and not do that cycle.
Bro you have a lot of living to do yet. We just tryin to help you get there.
Regards from all of us.:)
 
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zedhed said:
Sexy, first off I wanna say that we are not bashing you.
Would you mind if I ask did you or someone else set this cycle up for you?
I also wanna say you call youreslf a hard gainer, however I also want to tell you that you are within 1 lb of me in body wieght at the same height. I am 12% bf and 50 yea old.
Below in red Im gonna put my comments on your cycle.

week 1-12 Test Enanthate 750mg ew Ok, maybe even 800?
week 1-12 Equipose 800mg ew Nah loose this.
week 1-12 Masteron Enanthate 800mg ew OK.
week 1-6 trenbolone Enanthate 600mg ew WAY TOO MUCH! dont need it, loose it.
week 7-12 NPP 500mg ew Ok, either this or Deca, dose is a little high but ok.
week 11-13 test prop 500mg ew Wasting your money on this.

week 1-3 anadrol 150mg ed Danger Danger Danger way too much, loose it!
week 4-7 dianabol 50mg ed
week 8-11 Turanabol 60mg ed week 12 80mg ed Either Or, not both.

week 1-8 ECA 2 caps ed
week 1-6 T3 25mg ED
week 1-12 Arimidex .5mg eod Ok
week 1-12 dostinex .5mg eod 2x/week unless indicated otherwise
week 9-14 Clenbuterol 120-140 mcg ed Nah loose it.

Would like to see your diet, but I think you should consider these ideas.
Do not eat more then 5-6 meals per day. If you do your are making youreself a blast furnace for calories. You in your case need to eat really big meals, as much food per sitting as you can stand. This will help to slow your metabolism. Allow yourself 2 shakes per day, but each shake needs to have in it, 1 Tbs olive oil. 1Tbs natty penut butter. 4 scoops protien and mix with whole milk.
Carry a baggie of nuts with you all day every day and eat them all you want.
Carry a baggie with a couple of hard boiled eggs in it. Eat at least 2/day.
Your breakfast needs to be massive. At least 6 eggs, bacon or sausage, 4 pcs whole grain toast or pancakes or waffles. You get the idea, YOU NEED TO EAT A SHIT LOAD OF FOOD BRO!
Lunch huge too.
Dinner the same, but between 6:00 and 7:00 at night, the later the better.
Dont be afraid to eat pretty much whatever you want. If you really are a hard gainer youre not gonna get fat.
Post up your work out. For you LESS IS MORE! Again you need to slow down your metabolism.

I hope you will post back on this so that we can help you out and hopefully convince you to be nicer to yourself and not do that cycle.
Bro you have a lot of living to do yet. We just tryin to help you get there.
Regards from all of us.:)
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Great post Zedhed. I hope the OP appreciates the work you put into this.
 
So nice of you zed head i am starting to really like this place :)
okay here goes i will show you my meal plan simply i will be carbing big and i wont be eating carbs 6 hours before i sleep only veggies and frutis etc here goes

Meal 1 =
100g Oats, 1 Table spoon Honey, Raisins
6 egg whites 2 whole
200 grams Beef Steak
1 scoop whey isolate blended with berries

Meal 2
150-200g Brown Rice
300g Chicken
300g Fat Free Yoghurt

PWO
2 scoops Whey Isolate
1 tablespoon peanut butter
preworkout training fuel flapjack bar

Meal 4
2 Scoops Gain
400ml Skimmed Goats Milk
1 Riped Banana
100g Oats, 1 Table spoon Honey, Raisins

Meal 5
200g Sweet Potato
100g Sweetcorn
300g Chicken

Meal 6
450g Pink Salmon
50g Avocado
50g Lettuce

Meal 7
300g mixed fruits
1 small can tuna with mayo
Casein Protein
nuts

Supplements
Vitamin c
Vitamin B6
Vitamin E
Multi Vit
Omega fatty acids
BCAA
Green Tea
Cod Liver Oil
Liv 5.2ds
Milk Thistle
Arginine
Zinc
CLA
Chromium Picolonate
antioxidants
hawthorne
niacin

My pct is

Hcgenerate
clomid
aromasin

but yeah this is my Food routine i will be drink 5-6 litres water daily and doing cardio 3 times a week and cross training twice a week 20 minute sessions, my weight training routine changes every month so i can keep my body guessing 1 month i would do 5 times a week , 1 month i do 3 times a week amyways here you go and thanks again.
 
zedhed said:
Sexy, first off I wanna say that we are not bashing you.
Would you mind if I ask did you or someone else set this cycle up for you?
I also wanna say you call youreslf a hard gainer, however I also want to tell you that you are within 1 lb of me in body wieght at the same height. I am 12% bf and 50 yea old.
Below in red Im gonna put my comments on your cycle.

week 1-12 Test Enanthate 750mg ew Ok, maybe even 800?
week 1-12 Equipose 800mg ew Nah loose this.
week 1-12 Masteron Enanthate 800mg ew OK.
week 1-6 trenbolone Enanthate 600mg ew WAY TOO MUCH! dont need it, loose it.
week 7-12 NPP 500mg ew Ok, either this or Deca, dose is a little high but ok.
week 11-13 test prop 500mg ew Wasting your money on this.

week 1-3 anadrol 150mg ed Danger Danger Danger way too much, loose it!
week 4-7 dianabol 50mg ed
week 8-11 Turanabol 60mg ed week 12 80mg ed Either Or, not both.

week 1-8 ECA 2 caps ed
week 1-6 T3 25mg ED
week 1-12 Arimidex .5mg eod Ok
week 1-12 dostinex .5mg eod 2x/week unless indicated otherwise
week 9-14 Clenbuterol 120-140 mcg ed Nah loose it.

Would like to see your diet, but I think you should consider these ideas.
Do not eat more then 5-6 meals per day. If you do your are making youreself a blast furnace for calories. You in your case need to eat really big meals, as much food per sitting as you can stand. This will help to slow your metabolism. Allow yourself 2 shakes per day, but each shake needs to have in it, 1 Tbs olive oil. 1Tbs natty penut butter. 4 scoops protien and mix with whole milk.
Carry a baggie of nuts with you all day every day and eat them all you want.
Carry a baggie with a couple of hard boiled eggs in it. Eat at least 2/day.
Your breakfast needs to be massive. At least 6 eggs, bacon or sausage, 4 pcs whole grain toast or pancakes or waffles. You get the idea, YOU NEED TO EAT A SHIT LOAD OF FOOD BRO!
Lunch huge too.
Dinner the same, but between 6:00 and 7:00 at night, the later the better.
Dont be afraid to eat pretty much whatever you want. If you really are a hard gainer youre not gonna get fat.
Post up your work out. For you LESS IS MORE! Again you need to slow down your metabolism.

I hope you will post back on this so that we can help you out and hopefully convince you to be nicer to yourself and not do that cycle.
Bro you have a lot of living to do yet. We just tryin to help you get there.
Regards from all of us.:)
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i agree with Zed, i am probably twice your age if not more and i look better than most guys running multipiple compounds,you're using way too much gear, thats only the icing on the cake ,

you need nutrients to pour the gas on the fire!

I predict using those cycles for an extended peroid of time will only give you health problems down the road!
 
appreciate it radar i understand what your trying to say 100% honestly compounds like anadrol dianabol winstrol etc liver toxity has been way over rated i have once done once 6 weeks of adrol 150mg then 6weeks of dbol 50mg and 4 weeks of halo 40mg when i had my values checked the were just slightly over but still i know shouldnt take these things for granted but yeah about the spaghetti lol yes or no
 
sexy_olympia said:
appreciate it radar i understand what your trying to say 100% honestly compounds like anadrol dianabol winstrol etc liver toxity has been way over rated i have once done once 6 weeks of adrol 150mg then 6weeks of dbol 50mg and 4 weeks of halo 40mg when i had my values checked the were just slightly over but still i know shouldnt take these things for granted but yeah about the spaghetti lol yes or no
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well ,i work at the lab at the hospital and i can tell you down the road you will reap what you sow!
 
how old r u? how old did u start your first cycle?

hard gainers are usually guys who

A. dont eat enough
B. are young
C. dont know how to train hard
D. all of the above

I also dont understand how you have this many cycles under your belt yet are still seeking others advice. you should be giving us advice with all that experience. you should of learned from trial and error.

also how can you afford all these compounds for every cycle? i'm thinkin you are pulling our legs with this thread.
 
stevesmi said:
how old r u?

hard gainers are usually guys who

A. dont eat enough
B. are young
C. dont know how to train hard
D. all of the above
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Ditto, I would bet if i laid out my training routine you wouldn't be able to finish it!
 
im not pulling anyones legs my mother left me 3 properties before she died plus i have a job my cycle cost me 400 pounds, i decided to increase test e to a gram ew ill remove prop also yes after this cycle i will be around here helping out others as much as i can i love this place everyone is so helpful. I started using gear when i was 16 my first 2 cycles were very mild then from the age of 18 they started increasing compunds wise my most expensive cycle was when i was 21 i did a cutter using primo at a gram per week, test prop 100mg eod, anavar 100mg ed and near the end winstrol depo 50mg ed it was amazing i was harder and more ripped then life besides the terrible primo inject pains, but yeah that cost me over a thousand pounds but i saved up the whole year. I did that cycle for 20 weeks and the funny this was i gained about close to 20 pounds of mass next to no water and my ody was like steel and recovery was sooo easy. I work very hard to maintain my gains i take my training and physique maintenance very seriously its a passion of mine so yeah no legs are being pulled here i promise from this year onwards im going to post up pics and results of my cycles to show everyone and become part of this community and hopefully soon be a platinum member to role with the big boys lol. Radar lay it out for me and im pretty sure i will like it definately give it a shot keep u updates and complete it im a perfectionist its liek when i play a ps3 game i wont get up from there till i dont complete it lol.
 
Sexy, overall your diet looks good except that you are a hard gainer. So this is not the greatest for you.
Try to drop meal 7 but condense those calories into the other 6 meals. Also drop some of the carbs and add in protien in those 6 meals.
I would totally forget the spagettie and add a meat of somekind.
You also might wanny have whole cow or goat milk at every meal.
If youre a hard gainer youre not gonna get fat.

sexy_olympia said:
So nice of you zed head i am starting to really like this place :)
okay here goes i will show you my meal plan simply i will be carbing big and i wont be eating carbs 6 hours before i sleep only veggies and frutis etc here goes

Meal 1 =
100g Oats, 1 Table spoon Honey, Raisins
6 egg whites 2 whole
200 grams Beef Steak
1 scoop whey isolate blended with berries

Meal 2
150-200g Brown Rice
300g Chicken
300g Fat Free Yoghurt

PWO
2 scoops Whey Isolate
1 tablespoon peanut butter
preworkout training fuel flapjack bar

Meal 4
2 Scoops Gain
400ml Skimmed Goats Milk
1 Riped Banana
100g Oats, 1 Table spoon Honey, Raisins

Meal 5
200g Sweet Potato
100g Sweetcorn
300g Chicken

Meal 6
450g Pink Salmon
50g Avocado
50g Lettuce

Meal 7
300g mixed fruits
1 small can tuna with mayo
Casein Protein
nuts

Supplements
Vitamin c
Vitamin B6
Vitamin E
Multi Vit
Omega fatty acids
BCAA
Green Tea
Cod Liver Oil
Liv 5.2ds
Milk Thistle
Arginine
Zinc
CLA
Chromium Picolonate
antioxidants
hawthorne
niacin

My pct is

Hcgenerate
clomid
aromasin

This is killing your gains right here man. Any muscle that you are trying to build is going out your pores in sweat bro. If you are a hard gainer then you need to/must fix this.
Do the cross training and get rid of the cardio. With your weight workout (which I would like to see) that is even prolly too much. So plz post up your weight workout and dump that cardiio if you wanna get big.:)
but yeah this is my Food routine i will be drink 5-6 litres water daily and doing cardio 3 times a week and cross training twice a week 20 minute sessions, my weight training routine changes every month so i can keep my body guessing 1 month i would do 5 times a week , 1 month i do 3 times a week amyways here you go and thanks again.
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:) Thanks bro :chomp:
 
sexy_olympia said:
im not pulling anyones legs my mother left me 3 properties before she died plus i have a job my cycle cost me 400 pounds, i decided to increase test e to a gram ew ill remove prop also yes after this cycle i will be around here helping out others as much as i can i love this place everyone is so helpful. I started using gear when i was 16 my first 2 cycles were very mild then from the age of 18 they started increasing compunds wise my most expensive cycle was when i was 21 i did a cutter using primo at a gram per week, test prop 100mg eod, anavar 100mg ed and near the end winstrol depo 50mg ed it was amazing i was harder and more ripped then life besides the terrible primo inject pains, but yeah that cost me over a thousand pounds but i saved up the whole year. I did that cycle for 20 weeks and the funny this was i gained about close to 20 pounds of mass next to no water and my ody was like steel and recovery was sooo easy. I work very hard to maintain my gains i take my training and physique maintenance very seriously its a passion of mine so yeah no legs are being pulled here i promise from this year onwards im going to post up pics and results of my cycles to show everyone and become part of this community and hopefully soon be a platinum member to role with the big boys lol. Radar lay it out for me and im pretty sure i will like it definately give it a shot keep u updates and complete it im a perfectionist its liek when i play a ps3 game i wont get up from there till i dont complete it lol.
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gotcha.. starting steroids at 16 with zero experience in the gym explains a lot of your problems here.
 
gotcha too what can i say young and dumb, thanks soo much zedhead i will do that im not lactose intolerant its jsut that i dotn digest cows milk very well plus im blood type a so cows milk is a no no for me anyway lol ok yeah ill grab whole milk thanks a million :)
 
Yeah Im not good with that either, but whats done is done. I am looking at it like this, he is older now and has been jerked around by who knows who. So hopefully we can provide a better direction to the OP.
 
8%bf and you want to use T3? Im baffled. Have you ever had blood work done? If find out where you sit health wise before you did anything resembling the cycle you laid out.
 
t3 im only going to be hitting it till i finish tren..... and im only taking 25mcg a day and that is actually anabolic whilst on cycle.
 
sexy_olympia said:
shall i take 100g oats out from meal 4 as that is alrady 80g carbs without it ?
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Yup, put in milk or meat in place of. Feel free to add natty penutbutter too. Penut butter and jelly sandwiches, fast, easy and your case good choice.:) Whole grain bread on that.
 
Would you mind posting up your workout bro? I think we could make additions/subtractions there too. I am almost certian that you are doing way too much for hard gainer types.
 
my first thought aswell too much man, id look into your diet first, then adjust compounds accordingly, (thats MHO)
 
lol will do but i like peanut butter and jam more :D thanks sooo much zedhead im all set now i wish i could just hug u bro but your all the way in us LOL anyways thanks a billion will definately show you my results :D
 
:):):D:DJust tryin to help like Ive been helped on here:D:D:):)
 
okay meal time !!! i injected 1am i usually wake up at 10am but i woke up at 7 (thankyou tren) and i feel like i can eat a cow usually i feel hungry an hour after waking up (thankyou equipose) lool :D thanks again guys will keep u posted
 
sexy_olympia said:
t3 im only going to be hitting it till i finish tren..... and im only taking 25mcg a day and that is actually anabolic whilst on cycle.
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That may be but you have more shit in your system than your body will likely be able to make use of. Id bet your gains on half the gear would be just as good and a lot easier on your body.
 
awesome found a new place to inject my traps went in smooth no pain no nothing probably because my traps are kinda big lol but yeah woohoo its all going great insomnia has kicked in i sleep twice a day 4+4 hours lol, no water retention as of yet i had 7 litres of water yesterday almost puked lol so bloat is a nono plus hitting dosti and adex ofcourse eating extremely clean no cheating no simple carbs only on sunday i may think about hitting a subway or something (maybe) strength in kicking in nicely i did 170 kilos on my shoulders yesterday and i have never done more than 160 and today i squatted 230 kilos but only 7 times couldnt manage the 8th but yeah will keep u posted :)
 
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