Gyno growing when on NOTHING!! I'm stumped.

[vovchanchyn]

History: 6'4 238lbs, lifting 7 years solid. 27 years old. In the past I have done Superdrol, M-drol, P-plex, Havoc/Epistane, Anavar, T-bol.

I have not touched any kind of anabolic or supplement in 1.5 or so years.

2-5 years ago: I believe I had small, mostly unnoticeable traces of gyno from puberty. I believe a few of the cycles aggravated/caused some small gyno gland growth (even with proper PCT always). For the most part they were kept in check. At one point I developed a small gland and it started to grow. I cleared it up with Letro to almost nothing.

1.5 years ago: I finished my last cycle (2 compounds used. Was between M-drol, P-plex or epistane. Don't recall exactly). A few weeks/months after PCT I started getting gyno on the left side (estro rebound I guess?). I ordered Letro and immediately started running it at 2.5mg. I ran it for about 4 weeks and it did nothing except hold the gyno growth in place. Was Iron Dragon Letro btw, which has since been tested to be underdosed. I tapered off the Letro and got on Tore to prevent rebound and then tapered off that. It didn't work. Gyno grew big time after I got off. Gland was large and painful and was there to stay.


Present: I lived with that super painful left side gland for about a year and had it surgically removed in March of 2011. The right side had a lump about the size of a dime on the outer edge of the nipple, and I elected not to have it removed (basically I didn't have enough money for both) and it was unnoticeable. Surgery went well. Left side seems resolved.

SO... 3-4 weeks following the surgery... the dime sized lump on the RIGHT side has TRIPLED in size!!! Keep in mind I have not touched an anabolic/supplement/anything in 1.5 years!!!

Just went and got my blood tests run. Results (seems fine to me??):

Test Total: 348 Range 200-800
Estradoil: 17 Range 8-43
Prolactin: 8.5 Range 2.5-22.5
FSH 5.2 Range 1.5-12.4
LH 6.8 Range 1.7-8.6
HCG Quant, Tumor Marker <1 Range <3



Anyone that has theories/ideas? What the hell is going on?

I'm about to do a Prami/Letro regimine to get rid of it. Taper off then followed by Aromasin to prevent rebound. Very slow taper off Aromasin.

 

[vovchanchyn]

Update: I stopped taking Zantac (150mg twice a day for heartburn) a week ago, and the lump has not grown any since. It has been linked to gyno even though its very rare.

Who knows, maybe that was the cause?

Also I guess I should have had my DHT levels checked?

 

[CoBra666]

i once read a dude drank ridiculous amounts of soy, and he grew huge gyno lumps and everyone was stumped what it came from.. well a few years ago anyways this happened so im guessing they knew alot less about gyno and soy. but could be a dietary supplemeny possibly

 

[Spartacus]

your powerchair will be paid in full

 

[vovchanchyn]

Lump is at 50% of original size after day 10 of Letro 2.5mg/Prami 0.5mg standalone protocol.

 

[vovchanchyn]

I was really surprised by the Test number. I always feel great, have good energy, lift like a beast, eat like a beast, gain super easy.... I imagined I had high Test.

Anyways, lump is still at about 50%. I drank heavily the other night and it slowed my progress. It seemed to irritate the lump and cause it to inflame a bit. I know alcohol can cause estrogen and cause gyno. After a couple days the lump is about where it was before my night of drinking. Won't be doing that again.

I am thinking about doing 1.25mg morning and 2.5mg night of Letro. I am not really having any sides besides lower interest in sex. I read people do up to 5mg of Letro for gyno reversal. I feel I am approaching a plateau in my protocol but I could be wrong.