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Getting Bashed Over Here For Using An OTC PCT

shibs

shibs

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I just joined this new forum because someone pmed me here saying they needed some good posters, so I posted up a cycle I was considering and no one knew wth all the products were I was planning on using, and they didn't even give it a chance. They're just clomid/nolva pushers basically.. check it out; My Next Cycle
 
Yeah shibsy I see that a lot. What can you say tho?
Try to educate them and then go on your way bro and fosho dont sweat it.
With the contest on you got plenty on your plate bro.
Good luck!
 
RickO'Shea said:
Here on Elite they bashed you!?
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The Ironden Rick

Here's a members comment


"It looks like a new pro hormone, and a bunch of other over the counter garbage- complete waste of money imo"


LMAO! No one even knew
what he was talking about!
 
thats y i choose to spend my time here :)
 
They're simply unaware. In all fairness, deisal and Beast et al are essentially steroids so if you've never heard of them I can see thinking "what's the point?" If you can get real turinabol why mess with that stuff? No sense trying to convince them one way or the other.

As for the UNLEASHED and POST CYCLE, they do things that nothing else does. You can try to explain that to them but some people are just stuck in the old ways.
 
-"and pretty soon they'll be talkin bout thems auto mo bils and how thems will replace horse and buggy! crock a horse shit.."
 
Got some of the best of the best here at EF, along with great people.
We are a huge family and proud of it.
No need for drama in this place......
 
zedhed said:
Yeah shibsy I see that a lot. What can you say tho?
Try to educate them and then go on your way bro and fosho dont sweat it.
With the contest on you got plenty on your plate bro.
Good luck!
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and also you guys are making me feel like a child the night before christmas lol tell me what you're thinking already! :D
 
Oi dude! i see that joining a new forum-site is ok, since your introducing em retards to power products like Mrsupps - ntbm!

Other then that, what ya doing over there? you got the main forum of training here :) the wizzes to the shizzes!
 
Voijn said:
Oi dude! i see that joining a new forum-site is ok, since your introducing em retards to power products like Mrsupps - ntbm!

Other then that, what ya doing over there? you got the main forum of training here :) the wizzes to the shizzes!
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haha i'm just trying to spread the knowledge :) some guy asked me to help out over there so i told him i'd join up. not a bad bunch of guys, just ill informed ;)
 
I can see where they didn't know what you were talking about. There is not one person that I have spoken with in my area or surrounding areas that have ever heard anything about mrsupps or NTBM.

I wish there was an actual kick back for sending people their way.

I could be a sick sales rep down here.:beer:

(hint,hint) job for crushtime?:chainsaw:
 
some dude pm'd me as well to join the iron den but between EF and NTBM forums i would rather spend my time on these two as i cant think of any negatives so far!!
 
there ya go...two college sales reps to get others to spend mommy and daddy's money on supplements.

People are always asking what supps to take...i think it would more of an incentive to push it really hard instead of saying, "oh i take so and so from ntbm."

win win situation :beer:

at least until it catches in areas that they are unknown.


NTBM & MRSUPPS WORLD WIIIIIIIIDE!!!:chainsaw:
 
haha i recommend a lot of his supps to my friends but they're mostly retarded and shop at gnc or something. :splat:
 
theemperor said:
Got some of the best of the best here at EF, along with great people.
We are a huge family and proud of it.
No need for drama in this place......
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Maybe i should mosy over there and do a write up about Acetamidoxolutamide and its affects on the human body.
 
shibs said:
I just joined this new forum because someone pmed me here saying they needed some good posters, so I posted up a cycle I was considering and no one knew wth all the products were I was planning on using, and they didn't even give it a chance. They're just clomid/nolva pushers basically.. check it out; My Next Cycle
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So they want some good posters eh? i just created an account, this should be interesting!
 
I do like some of the OTC products we put out.. And SA.. But I still love the feeling of clomid..
 
RADAR said:
So they want some good posters eh? i just created an account, this should be interesting!
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hahaha i've gotta check it out.

they seem like decent people, they just don't have some of the experienced vets and awesome sponsors we have :D
 
RADAR said:
So they want some good posters eh? i just created an account, this should be interesting!
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LOL, that's awesome! Be careful though. The thing is, it's a philosophy you either want to embrace or you don't. If someone has a belief system they're convinced is right, they're not in the market to hear why they're wrong. Some people don;t really care about health or recovery or maximizing gains. They just figure if they take X, Y and Z, it works and that's that. No need to think beyond it.
 
Nelson Montana said:
LOL, that's awesome! Be careful though. The thing is, it's a philosophy you either want to embrace or you don't. If someone has a belief system they're convinced is right, they're not in the market to hear why they're wrong. Some people don;t really care about health or recovery or maximizing gains. They just figure if they take X, Y and Z, it works and that's that. No need to think beyond it.
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Yeah! I'm not going to march in there like a know it all ,sneaky tactics are the best :)
 
skaman007 said:
and wat feeling is that???if you are gonna use a serm in pct isnt nolva at 20mg per day similiar to 150mg clomid???
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Yes and no. Nolva is site specific and good for gyno, whereas Clomid acts like an estrogen and can either lower or raise existing e. In some cases, people find it beneficial, but it's too much of a crapshoot. You can wind up really feeling like shit on Clomid. And i don;t believe it does much in the end as far as actual improvement of the HPTA. (Plus there are other sides including toxicity).

Even if you use one or the other, using UNLEASHED and POST CYCLE would still speed recovery.
 
shibs said:
I just joined this new forum because someone pmed me here saying they needed some good posters, so I posted up a cycle I was considering and no one knew wth all the products were I was planning on using, and they didn't even give it a chance. They're just clomid/nolva pushers basically.. check it out; My Next Cycle
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Well that is what you get when you go to a forum and every single member who has given you a reply has a join date of late 2010 early 2011 lmao.. You have stumbler into a start up forum full of gym rant retards.

Not a single one of them have any single Idea how to "research" anything. every single one of them have spotted off nothing more then regurgitated Bro'ology . I went to check out the thread there and its like a jumped into the back the future delorean and shot back to 1980...

I don't much like talking shit and drama like this though. SO really if you want to post links to other forums in the hopes we can all gather around and talk some smake. THis is not the site for it.
 
It is ignorance. I like forma-stanzol over clomid/nolva any day.
 
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balancefighter said:
Awesome! keep us updated.

I would like to thank my workout partner for turning me on to these two great websites
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fighter got to experience how we take care of each other around here the other day. Sent me a pm on needtobuildmuscle.net the other day about some order problems. I hooked him up good like I always do:heart:
 
Voijn said:
shall we guys....




shall we raid them :D ?
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No we shall not.

We shall be cool bros and not assholes.

If anyone wants to go over there (or any other board) and share and educate some of their members about some of the DS/PH products and OTC supps that you take and like, go for it.

If you're an ass over there, please don't tell them you came from EF.

Those of you spouting off, don't you think the leadership over there are reading this thread? I'll tell you for certain they are.

So don't make EF look bad. Don't try to drag a bunch of bros over to ANY other board and "raid" them. Anyone who does will be banned from EF if they go on a "raid" of another board.
 
There was a time when all the hyped up supps for the most part were just that...hype! It used to be correct to say 99% of supps or PHs out there were worthless. They were a waste of money and none of the muscle building supps worked anywhere near as well as dbol, drol, anavar, test, deca, tren, etc. Ask Nelson! He wrote a book about it!

So, if someone doesn't know about FormaStanzolol, or HCGenerate, or Beastdrol, etc., it doesn't make them stupid, it makes them uninformed. Don't expect they will readily accept these OTC supps are suddenly good. They probably took sublingual smilax hoping to get huge back in the 80's and 90's. They already wasted money on a bunch of stuff that was supposed to be as good as dbol, but wasn't. Since then they've stopped believing anything OTC is worth a shit except a multi-vitamin.

If you get into debate with people like this, don't expect to win them to your way of thinking. Don't expect it to be easy. And don't lose your cool. Make friends.
 
needtogetaas said:
fighter got to experience how we take care of each other around here the other day. Sent me a pm on needtobuildmuscle.net the other day about some order problems. I hooked him up good like I always do:heart:
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You sure did brother! Very pleased with all of the products I have tried from needtobuildmuscle if you ever need a product rep holla at your boy! lol
 
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