I think people saying that u can't get really huge cause u don't have good genetics is a bunch a shit. Im not or well....wasn't that big (185) about 3 months ago. Now im 220 and thats only after a mild cycle. After my extreme bulker I think ill be huge then theres the cutter. SO I think anyone with the right amount of determination plus an ample supply and knowledge of gear and supplements can be huge. Fuck the genetics!