Gear and permanent trt experience

[d_ant11]

I've read a lot of different opinions and information concerning what it takes to stop your natural test production and be forced into trt/hrt.


For example I've heard of guys being on moderate doses (250mg/week) of test for over a year and recovering fine and I've heard of guys doing 4 or 5 separate 8 week cycles of 500mg/week with proper pct and time off and shutting down their hpta.

I know everyone responds differently but I'm curious what you all have to say....


To all of you experienced users - what are your opinions on this? Cycle lengths, doses, age, how many cycles before this could happen?

 

[d_ant11]

Damn, 28 views and no opinions???

 

[forcd]

i'm doin a 30 week cycle now, then will cruise on 250mg a week for an extra 10 and come off. i'll let you kno soon after that how it feels to come off lol.

 

[DJ_UFO]

Like you already said, everybody reacts different. Some people can recover perfectky fine 100% after each cycle with proper PCT, while others after one cycle can have permanent pituitary gland damage. However, seems like in most cases, a body can recover from a cycle, but never 100% to how it was before. After each cycle, the pituitary gland suffers more and more damage which eventually leads to a permanent low Testosterone levels. Andropause, in reality doesn;t exist. Is a new condition created by all the shit we are exposed to every day and drug usage. The bad food infected with pesticides and chemicals, prescription medicines, government vaccines, etc... In my family all males were fucking without Viagra or a single herb pill til their 60's.

 

[lartinos]

It usually has to do with age. Even at 30 I can come off of a normal cycle without a problem. Deca/tren is hard for me to come off at any age.

 

[d_ant11]

i'm doin a 30 week cycle now, then will cruise on 250mg a week for an extra 10 and come off. i'll let you kno soon after that how it feels to come off lol.

haha...lol.....yeah let me know

 

[d_ant11]

Like you already said, everybody reacts different. Some people can recover perfectky fine 100% after each cycle with proper PCT, while others after one cycle can have permanent pituitary gland damage. However, seems like in most cases, a body can recover from a cycle, but never 100% to how it was before. After each cycle, the pituitary gland suffers more and more damage which eventually leads to a permanent low Testosterone levels. Andropause, in reality doesn;t exist. Is a new condition created by all the shit we are exposed to every day and drug usage. The bad food infected with pesticides and chemicals, prescription medicines, government vaccines, etc... In my family all males were fucking without Viagra or a single herb pill til their 60's.

Good to know. My bro in law is a doc and does some HRT.....he said males these days are seeing a depletion in hormones at the age of 35 rather than 45 because of what we are exposed to like you said. Don't wanna get too far into it with him or he will get suspicious.

I am 37 with 5 kids and have never had a prob with sex drive and want to keep it like that without hrt. Won't be having anymore kids so not too worried about potency.

Although, I have to admit after a couple of light cycles I am interested in pushing the envelope a bit. Not sure what I can and can't get away with at this point as far as doses and duration.

Thanks for the info thus far

 

[Zyglamail]

Everyone is different you never know if, when or how your body will recover from test use. That being said it only takes like 25mg to have a net negative effect on your overall test levels. 125mg/wk will bring your levels to about mid lab range while completely shutting you down while on.

 

[Drewb]

It depends on age, genetics and cycle/PCT. I'm young, ran a few short legal oral cycles with strong PCT and good time off. I think the problem was caused / started when I ran a few cycles when I was young 21-22, probably to young to start.

Natty T production is 172 and I have to eaither start TRT/HRT or live with no test. I'm 30 in a few months.

Oh and my insurance won't pay for it so it's out of pocket and pretty pricy for pharmacy "script" stuff.

 

[NeedMore]

I've read a lot of different opinions and information concerning what it takes to stop your natural test production and be forced into trt/hrt.


For example I've heard of guys being on moderate doses (250mg/week) of test for over a year and recovering fine and I've heard of guys doing 4 or 5 separate 8 week cycles of 500mg/week with proper pct and time off and shutting down their hpta.

I know everyone responds differently but I'm curious what you all have to say....


To all of you experienced users - what are your opinions on this? Cycle lengths, doses, age, how many cycles before this could happen?

I can speak from personal experience since I am on HRT for life.

I was un-educated when I first began AAS.

Put it this way: YOUNG, UN-EDUCATED, STUBBORN, NO PCT=HRT FOR LIFE