Gaining weight

[s8nlilhlpr]

I dunno about you, but I eat cookie dough all the time. I even eat the homemade stuff with raw eggs in it, never had a problem or gotten sick.

Have you actually gained any weight lately or is it all still talk? Also, what happened with your "pro trainer" that was making all your routines? Any progress or hopping around programs every 2 weeks?

 

[mad dipz]

the only question I have about drinking a gallon of milk a day on top of all the food you eat is is it necessary to cut down on the food intake so the calories aren't so damn high? I've been eating big for the past few months, just like what BiggT has given for the kid, and after recently just writing down everything I intake, my caloric intake is almost 7000. I mean I'm used to it now (besides the bloating as the evening goes on), just don't know if it sounds too healthy.

 

[Cynical Simian]

Argh, how many times do I have to say this: what matters for gaining mass is the presence and size of the caloric surplus. IMO, unless you're just really impatient and willing to accept some additional fat gain to reach a certain total bodyweight sooner or running a shitload of drugs, keeping the size of the caloric surplus at 250-750 calories is the way to go. So if your daily caloric expenditure is ~6500 calories, a 7000-calorie intake is fine. If it's a few thousand calories less than that, more of that surplus than you'd like will probably end up as fat rather than LBM.

 

[mad dipz]

Argh, how many times do I have to say this: what matters for gaining mass is the presence and size of the caloric surplus. IMO, unless you're just really impatient and willing to accept some additional fat gain to reach a certain total bodyweight sooner or running a shitload of drugs, keeping the size of the caloric surplus at 250-750 calories is the way to go. So if your daily caloric expenditure is ~6500 calories, a 7000-calorie intake is fine. If it's a few thousand calories less than that, more of that surplus than you'd like will probably end up as fat rather than LBM.

lol well I didn't mean to make you mad I just didn't know if 7000+ was healthy on the body

 

[Protobuilder]

Depends on a ton of individual factors (e.g., lipid profile, metabolism, daily exercise, etc.), but unless there's some ridiculous imbalance (e.g., missing key minerals or 99% protein or something), or you're not drinking enough water, I don't see any physical harm being caused by 7000.

 

[Cynical Simian]

lol, not mad at all, just slightly amused by how complicated people are making this.

Basically, the "gallon of whole milk per day" approach is, at least as Rippetoe uses it with the guys he trains, a way to ensure that high school kids who aren't particularly committed to monitoring food intake and weight (and are limited to the three meals per day prepared by mom/dad) get enough calories. A gallon of whole milk on top of a typical 2500 calorie diet still isn't a particularly extreme caloric intake, but if you're already committed to eating frequently and getting quite a few calories, less milk or smaller portions in your other meals might be warranted.

 

[Protobuilder]

A gallon of milk is so fucking easy, an ADHD hormone-riddled teenager can figure it out. It's just a pre-made "protein shake." You don't even need a blender. There are a million ways to get the cals. There are all sorts of homebrew recipes for "Get Big!" drinks, usually based on milk & protein powder along w/ some PB, some ice cream, and some bananas. Easy to drink 3000 cals a day if you make up a good shake. But kids are too damn ADHD. Hence, milk. Here are your directions:

1) Get allowance from dad.
2) Go to store.
3) Find milk section.
4) Buy milk after browsing the "already opened" Playboys.
5) Drink milk.

Repeat dumbass.

 

[mad dipz]

lol, not mad at all, just slightly amused by how complicated people are making this.

Basically, the "gallon of whole milk per day" approach is, at least as Rippetoe uses it with the guys he trains, a way to ensure that high school kids who aren't particularly committed to monitoring food intake and weight (and are limited to the three meals per day prepared by mom/dad) get enough calories. A gallon of whole milk on top of a typical 2500 calorie diet still isn't a particularly extreme caloric intake, but if you're already committed to eating frequently and getting quite a few calories, less milk or smaller portions in your other meals might be warranted.

oh alright. ya' people questioned me about the whole gallon a day thing and my only comeback response was "well Rippetoe told me to." lol

well since I'm committed to this much then, anyone know of a way to counter the bloating? if not then I guess I can deal with it, but I'd rather not. I already take metamucile at night but that's about it.

 

[s8nlilhlpr]

If you are slightly lactose intolerant look for a product called "Lact-aid." It contains enzymes to help you digest dairy products. There may be similar products out there, thats one specific brand I've used before.

 

[JKurz1]

lol at 6500 cals ridiculous and unnecessary............