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Gaining weight

LMAO!

Back under your rock.

Protein powder is food. Calories. Protein for building new fibers. Without calories, you don't grow. simple. so how in the fuck could creatine--one small part of your diet--be more important than the fundamental building block of all new muscle?

Get your head checked.

I havent had a pw shake in mnths a feel 10x better and getting stronger again

what does this have to do w/ ANYTHING?
 
Creatine is one of the few supplements that, with a pretty solid body of scientific and anecdotal evidence behind it and a low price, might be worth the money. But as T and PB have been saying, training and diet are 99% of the equation, and if you're eating enough meat supplemental creatine might be superfluous.
 
Cynical Simian said:
Creatine is one of the few supplements that, with a pretty solid body of scientific and anecdotal evidence behind it and a low price, might be worth the money. But as T and PB have been saying, training and diet are 99% of the equation, and if you're eating enough meat supplemental creatine might be superfluous.
thanks.......
 
The thing with creatine is if you eat enough red meat, and drink, well actually overdrink milk, and throw in whole eggs, you don't notice it. The chicken breast and salad guys notice it big-time and they especially like the bloat for their strength, the thing is red meats, milk, and eggs are cheaper and you need cals anyway, so why not kill two birds with one stone. If you eat enough meat and eggs, your creatine stores should be high enough and If you drink a gallon of milk a day creatine won't add the magical 10lbs of bloat cause you'll be bloated anyway.

Seriously, I remember when creatine hit the shelves, and I have used various forms of it, and it has honestly never done anything....friends of mine who don't eat love it because it gives them something they're not getting......thing is, if you want strength and bloat, you might as well eat for it and save the money.....if you wanna eat boiled chicken and broccoli, you'll look better, but why take creatine then and defeat your purpose? I guess maybe that thing called a lipid profile, lol.....but seriously man, just lift and eat, you're too young to worry about anything

I know they say football coaches should stay out of the weightroom, but Joe Paterno was asked once his thoughts on players using creatine, and his response was..."It's good for guys who don't eat"......he was 100% right. I always had a suspicion he went over to PSU's Kinesiology department and asked Zatsiorski, lol....but that about sums it up. If you eat, you're pissing away your money on creatine.
 
I bought a tub of creatine mono, and I don't know if I can tell a difference. I mean, I THINK I might feel stronger or recover faster, but it's impossible to tell unless I were to go back in time and not take it. I have a theory though, maybe it's all the extra water I drink when taking it that makes me feel better. Water I should probably be drinking anyway. I don't know. I'm going to finish off what I bought because maybe I'll get something out of it, but I don't think I'll buy it again. It's just not that dramatic. Now a cup of coffee and a handful or two of raisins, POW!
 
beerdrinker said:
I bought a tub of creatine mono, and I don't know if I can tell a difference. I mean, I THINK I might feel stronger or recover faster, but it's impossible to tell unless I were to go back in time and not take it. I have a theory though, maybe it's all the extra water I drink when taking it that makes me feel better. Water I should probably be drinking anyway. I don't know. I'm going to finish off what I bought because maybe I'll get something out of it, but I don't think I'll buy it again. It's just not that dramatic. Now a cup of coffee and a handful or two of raisins, POW!

That is the mark of the supplement industry, man. People 'think' they 'might' feel better, lol.....at least you're not gonna waste any more money. What happens is people buy say CreatineXtreme, it doesn't work, then creatineXtreme ''ultimate'' comes out, of course it is much better than creatineXtreme cause that didnt work, but this version is scientifically proven to work with an advanced formula and the guy on the pic in the ad is jacked, so it must work.......obviously it doesn't work, but then the same company releases creatineXtreme ultimate mega....and you know the rest until creatinextreme ultimate mega 2 comes out.........and there will always be people falling prey.
 
So what you're saying is they announced a release date on creatinextreme ultimate mega 2?

What do you know someone at the company or something?
 
I think several guys already said it best. Weight gain is about eating. Supplements will not do that for--you only eating lots of food will. Looks like you are on the right track with lifts. Just stick with the compound moves and eat, eat, eat and you will put on weight.

Perp
 
BiggT said:
That is the mark of the supplement industry, man. People 'think' they 'might' feel better, lol.....at least you're not gonna waste any more money. What happens is people buy say CreatineXtreme, it doesn't work, then creatineXtreme ''ultimate'' comes out, of course it is much better than creatineXtreme cause that didnt work, but this version is scientifically proven to work with an advanced formula and the guy on the pic in the ad is jacked, so it must work.......obviously it doesn't work, but then the same company releases creatineXtreme ultimate mega....and you know the rest until creatinextreme ultimate mega 2 comes out.........and there will always be people falling prey.
Lose the whey, you dont need it...use that $20 to help purchase some aminos and some cee creatine....itll last you a long time and help out emensily.......
 
biggT,

Would you recommend the same eating plan for a 30 year old trying to pack on mass? I agree with everything you said, but I'm a little concerned that since my metabolism is not that of a 15 year old I would add more fat than muscle. I have been one of those, "chicken and brown rice with supplements" kind of guys and have been stuck at the same weight.
 
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