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120 dead.....curfew, closed borders. Looks like that open arms shit isn't working out. Wouldn't want to be a Muslim in Paris...
 
I saw on the news up here that it was up to 153 dead. I was in Paris this time last year. Makes ya stop and think a bit. Can you imagine if the rest of Europe starts closing their boarders??
 
Yep. Close borders. Sanction travel. No readmittance to those frequenting hostile countries. If you look like Max Klinger, don't even try to board a plane....
 
borders don't keep out terrorists.

some of the terrorists were recent "immigrants"...syrian "refugees" that entered france to "escape isis" in syria...closed borders will keep those people out

i think that we just let some of those refugees into the u.s. as well?

also, some of the weapons and munitions used in the attacks were american-made...the kind that were supplied to syrian rebels who were supposed to be fighting isis...way to go, barry...fucktard :rolleyes:
 
some of the terrorists were recent "immigrants"...syrian "refugees" that entered france to "escape isis" in syria...closed borders will keep those people out

i think that we just let some of those refugees into the u.s. as well?

also, some of the weapons and munitions used in the attacks were american-made...the kind that were supplied to syrian rebels who were supposed to be fighting isis...way to go, barry...fucktard :rolleyes:

I believe the border was closed to keep any potential perpetrator from escaping. It is temporary, France will open its borders again. It wont do anything for terrorists. Most terrorists are likely to use a visa and get into their country of choice.

The backlash though means lots of innocents will dies in search for ISIS leaders. More innocents will be killed than any associated with ISIS. What a sad situation.
 
Racial profiling does.

No, it doesn't. All it will do is cause racism and violate people on different aspects with no guarantee that it will cause any lives to be saved.

ISIS is an astonishingly small group after all. Xenophobia gets pathetic real quick.
 
I believe the border was closed to keep any potential perpetrator from escaping. It is temporary, France will open its borders again. It wont do anything for terrorists. Most terrorists are likely to use a visa and get into their country of choice.

The backlash though means lots of innocents will dies in search for ISIS leaders. More innocents will be killed than any associated with ISIS. What a sad situation.

innocence is in the eye of the beholder...
 
innocence is in the eye of the beholder...

or whatever one calls the court of justice. Preferably one without a fucked up system.

Children and people not associated with ISIS who just happen to be in a vicinity of bombs dropped like bird crap are just as innocent as any that died in Paris. Considering the percentage of ISIS members, it's a fair likelihood that most that die in the quest to wipe out ISIS are not ISIS.
 
As H-t said, it would suck to be Muslim in Paris now. Racial profiling, if not the norm, will probably be a lot more prevalent.
 
or whatever one calls the court of justice. Preferably one without a fucked up system.

Children and people not associated with ISIS who just happen to be in a vicinity of bombs dropped like bird crap are just as innocent as any that died in Paris. Considering the percentage of ISIS members, it's a fair likelihood that most that die in the quest to wipe out ISIS are not ISIS.

Association is assimilation.
 
or whatever one calls the court of justice. Preferably one without a fucked up system.

Children and people not associated with ISIS who just happen to be in a vicinity of bombs dropped like bird crap are just as innocent as any that died in Paris. Considering the percentage of ISIS members, it's a fair likelihood that most that die in the quest to wipe out ISIS are not ISIS.

i'm simply tipping my hat to the subjective nature of innocence...all those refugees who were recently allowed into france, some of them knew that there were killers among them, they didn't participate in the deed but it doesn't make them any less guilty...
 
i'm simply tipping my hat to the subjective nature of innocence...all those refugees who were recently allowed into france, some of them knew that there were killers among them, they didn't participate in the deed but it doesn't make them any less guilty...

Assimilation. A collective. "I'm sorry part of my whole hurts, offends you. I can't help it." Just deal with it. Or. Become part of it. Those are the seeming choices. Hopefully in future history books, there will be a chapter on how dangerous tolerance can be....
 
i'm simply tipping my hat to the subjective nature of innocence...all those refugees who were recently allowed into france, some of them knew that there were killers among them, they didn't participate in the deed but it doesn't make them any less guilty...

I didn't know that. Are you injecting or has this been confirmed? source?
 
Association is assimilation.

You assume all that live within the vicinity of a supposed member are associated with them? That is a huge generalization.

At any rate, I'm sure there are plenty who mirror your thoughts. I don't imagine the deaths of innocents (however you define that, it a fair possibility) to mean much more than collateral damage.

As for attack in the US, I suppose that is possible as well. Social media has been a good recruiting medium for ISIS it seems. They might have some ready individuals in every state, who know.
 
I didn't know that. Are you injecting or has this been confirmed? source?

passports on dead terrorists were of greek origin...many these so-called refugees were processed into the EU through greece...greek authorities confirmed that the smelly-camel-faced-cocksuckers were in the pool of worthless, piece-of-shit, immigrants who fled syria...innocence is in the eye of the beholder...
 
or whatever one calls the court of justice. Preferably one without a fucked up system.

Children and people not associated with ISIS who just happen to be in a vicinity of bombs dropped like bird crap are just as innocent as any that died in Paris. Considering the percentage of ISIS members, it's a fair likelihood that most that die in the quest to wipe out ISIS are not ISIS.

If you're talking about bombs dropped in ISIS occupied areas, anyone left there probably isn't an innocent anyway. Out of those who haven't fled; they are selling the women and children, or rounding them up and taking them into the desert to shoot them, and they have beheaded the men. According to Amnesty International they have carried out ethnic cleansing on a "historic scale". Who is left that they are actually letting live? Probably those who aren't innocent.
 
If you're talking about bombs dropped in ISIS occupied areas, anyone left there probably isn't an innocent anyway. Who are they letting live? Out of those who haven't fled; they are selling the women and children, or rounding them up and taking them into the desert to shoot them, and they have beheaded the men. According to Amnesty International they have carried out ethnic cleansing on a "historic scale". Who is left that they are actually letting live? Probably those who aren't innocent.

kill'em all...God will figure out which ones are innocent...who are we to judge anyway? and death is the only way for them to face the only real judge. you're doing the innocent people a favor!
 
If you're talking about bombs dropped in ISIS occupied areas, anyone left there probably isn't an innocent anyway. Out of those who haven't fled; they are selling the women and children, or rounding them up and taking them into the desert to shoot them, and they have beheaded the men. According to Amnesty International they have carried out ethnic cleansing on a "historic scale". Who is left that they are actually letting live? Probably those who aren't innocent.

Daily Death Toll - I AM SYRIA

You think those stats a load of crap?

Hundreds of civilians killed in US-led air strikes on Isis targets ? report | World news | The Guardian
 
kill'em all...God will figure out which ones are innocent...who are we to judge anyway? and death is the only way for them to face the only real judge. you're doing the innocent people a favor!

Muslims and Christians ultimately pray to the same God. Yeah, more prayers should be given as if that God gives a shit about the innocent or guilty.

At any rate, the whole thing makes my entire being heavy with sadness, but it is nothing new. I hope it will all end soon, but hope is like prayers, ultimately useless.
 
Should we sit around and let our entire beings be heavy with sadness and let the next generation deal with it once it's too late?

Do you think bringing in the refugees is a good idea?
 

That first link, that is the deaths from the rebels and ISIS and the shit already going on there. The second link has civilian deaths from coalition airstrikes at under 200 until that hospital blunder.

Like I said, they have fled or they are dead. Look at your own stats. I was trying to reassure you that there probably weren't very many innocents left there (I specially meant Raqqa because I thought we were talking about France) where beheadings were an every day occurrence and where most of the city has fled who aren't ISIS sympathizers. And people aren't just going in and doing this for fun and bombing schools and innocents in an otherwise peaceful area. That's not what's happening.

I get your point, and it was a fair one to consider What alternatives do you have for France? What do you think should be done?
 
Muslims are responsible for:
The Beltway snipers = muslim.
Shoebomber = muslim.
Underwear bomber = muslim.
London subway = muslim.
Tel Aviv bus = muslim.
Fort Hood shooter = muslim.
Beirut, Kenyan, Libyan embassies attack = muslim.
U.S.S. Cole bombers = muslim.
Buenos Aires bombers = muslim.
Madrid train bombers = muslim.
Bafi nightclub bombers = muslim.
Moscow theater attackers = muslim.
Boston marathon bombers = muslim.
Pan Am flight 93 = muslim.
Iranian embassy takeover = muslim.
Israeli Olympic attackers = muslim.
Saudi Khobar towers = muslim.
Beirut marine base bombers = muslim.
Besian russian school attackers = muslim.
First WTC bombers = muslim.
Bombay and Mumbai India attackers = muslim.
Achille Lauro cruiseship hijackers = muslim.
September 11, 2001 = muslim.
 
Muslims and Christians ultimately pray to the same God. Yeah, more prayers should be given as if that God gives a shit about the innocent or guilty.



At any rate, the whole thing makes my entire being heavy with sadness, but it is nothing new. I hope it will all end soon, but hope is like prayers, ultimately useless.


Of course I'm being facetious..I'm hinting at the hypocrisy of these people killing in the name of religion..but the eradication part? I'm serious about that. A group of people have declared war on humanity in the name of religion. They have proven that they can not and will not be reformed. They have to go. The "innocent" people that they hide behind will suffer during the process of elimination. I didn't make up the rules. Hell, they did. They hope that there are enough bleeding hearts out there, wringing their hands over the innocent people, to allow them time to proliferate, or at least do as much damage as they can before they go to meet allah, in hopes that they'll get a couple extra virgins..as if 72 is not enough.

Newsflash? I have 3 women in my house and most mornings (when the teenage ones are fighting with the 48 year old one?), that's about 4 too many.

No sane person would die for the privilege of spending eternity in the same room with 72 of them.

They must be eradicated.

I rest my case.

Redirect?
 
Of course I'm being facetious..I'm hinting at the hypocrisy of these people killing in the name of religion..but the eradication part? I'm serious about that. A group of people have declared war on humanity in the name of religion. They have proven that they can not and will not be reformed. They have to go. The "innocent" people that they hide behind will suffer during the process of elimination. I didn't make up the rules. Hell, they did. They hope that there are enough bleeding hearts out there, wringing their hands over the innocent people, to allow them time to proliferate, or at least do as much damage as they can before they go to meet allah, in hopes that they'll get a couple extra virgins..as if 72 is not enough.

Newsflash? I have 3 women in my house and most mornings (when the teenage ones are fighting with the 48 year old one?), that's about 4 too many.

No sane person would die for the privilege of spending eternity in the same room with 72 of them.

They must be eradicated.

I rest my case.

Redirect?

So, what you're saying is I probably can't move in?
 
That first link, that is the deaths from the rebels and ISIS and the shit already going on there. The second link has civilian deaths from coalition airstrikes at under 200 until that hospital blunder.

Like I said, they have fled or they are dead. Look at your own stats. I was trying to reassure you that there probably weren't very many innocents left there (I specially meant Raqqa because I thought we were talking about France) where beheadings were an every day occurrence and where most of the city has fled who aren't ISIS sympathizers. And people aren't just going in and doing this for fun and bombing schools and innocents in an otherwise peaceful area. That's not what's happening.

I get your point, and it was a fair one to consider What alternatives do you have for France? What do you think should be done?


Of course its not done for fun, just political advantage.

As for France, I admire their desicion to continue accepting refugees.
 
Of course I'm being facetious..I'm hinting at the hypocrisy of these people killing in the name of religion..but the eradication part? I'm serious about that. A group of people have declared war on humanity in the name of religion. They have proven that they can not and will not be reformed. They have to go. The "innocent" people that they hide behind will suffer during the process of elimination. I didn't make up the rules. Hell, they did. They hope that there are enough bleeding hearts out there, wringing their hands over the innocent people, to allow them time to proliferate, or at least do as much damage as they can before they go to meet allah, in hopes that they'll get a couple extra virgins..as if 72 is not enough.

Newsflash? I have 3 women in my house and most mornings (when the teenage ones are fighting with the 48 year old one?), that's about 4 too many.

No sane person would die for the privilege of spending eternity in the same room with 72 of them.

Thedon' be eradicated.

I rest my case.

Redirect?

Christianity and Islam in particular do have a bloodier history than most religions,but this is not the first group to declare war on humanity in the name of God nor will it be the last.

I do acknowledge your point and I understand that the quicker they are eliminated, the lower the risk of more potential threats/fatalities. I don't kno what they hope, but the idea of wiping them out by any means necessary inludes too many possibilities for terrible.
 
Muslims are responsible for:
The Beltway snipers = muslim.
Shoebomber = muslim.
Underwear bomber = muslim.
London subway = muslim.
Tel Aviv bus = muslim.
Fort Hood shooter = muslim.
Beirut, Kenyan, Libyan embassies attack = muslim.
U.S.S. Cole bombers = muslim.
Buenos Aires bombers = muslim.
Madrid train bombers = muslim.
Bafi nightclub bombers = muslim.
Moscow theater attackers = muslim.
Boston marathon bombers = muslim.
Pan Am flight 93 = muslim.
Iranian embassy takeover = muslim.
Israeli Olympic attackers = muslim.
Saudi Khobar towers = muslim.
Beirut marine base bombers = muslim.
Besian russian school attackers = muslim.
First WTC bombers = muslim.
Bombay and Mumbai India attackers = muslim.
Achille Lauro cruiseship hijackers = muslim.
September 11, 2001 = muslim.

A list can be made for other religions as well. I would prefer a world without religion, but not idealistic enough to believe that such terrible deeds wont be committed using another modem in the absence of religion. It appears to be the nature of people. Fear is good for control. This is about fear, about control.
 

I tend to feel a need to stand up for those unable to do so and am very much tied to my personal values so I agree with him. It's not always the best thing as it illicits more of an emotional response that might go against a more logical stance.
 
A list can be made for other religions as well. I would prefer a world without religion, but not idealistic enough to believe that such terrible deeds wont be committed using another modem in the absence of religion. It appears to be the nature of people. Fear is good for control. This is about fear, about control.
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You gotta love liberals. "We want everyone to love and accept and embrace everyone else and their cultures and beliefs OR YOU CAN JUST GET THE FUCK OUT OF OUR COUNTRY"!!!!!!
 
Fuck I hate the liberals
 
We have a fckn pussy for a prez. Actually, he's not a pussy, because he has no problem standing up to the people he represents. He's more of some sort of mole/plant of an agent for muslim agendas. With his weak jump shot and menthols...
 
We have a fckn pussy for a prez. Actually, he's not a pussy, because he has no problem standing up to the people he represents. He's more of some sort of mole/plant of an agent for muslim agendas. With his weak jump shot and menthols...

but there's no one better...
 
Christianity and Islam in particular do have a bloodier history than most religions,but this is not the first group to declare war on humanity in the name of God nor will it be the last.



I do acknowledge your point and I understand that the quicker they are eliminated, the lower the risk of more potential threats/fatalities. I don't kno what they hope, but the idea of wiping them out by any means necessary inludes too many possibilities for terrible.


You know what? It's Monday but it's a short week for a most of us in the US due to the pending holiday...so, spirits are probably a little higher than a normal Monday. Here's a bright little thought for you...some day in the not too distant future (compared to the age of the universe) the sun is going to run out of gas and all life on this planet will cease to exist... and anything that happens between now and then won't really amount to a hill of shit in the grand scheme of things. Enjoy your Monday and your holiday! :D
 
You know what? It's Monday but it's a short week for a most of us in the US due to the pending holiday...so, spirits are probably a little higher than a normal Monday. Here's a bright little thought for you...some day in the not too distant future (compared to the age of the universe) the sun is going to run out of gas and all life on this planet will cease to exist... and anything that happens between now and then won't really amount to a hill of shit in the grand scheme of things. Enjoy your Monday and your holiday! :D

Well aren't you the life of the party?!? ;)
 
A cardboard cut out picture of my asshole would have made a better president than that worthless piece of shit....

I wasn't implying I think he's a great president.

I just think it's a bit delusional to think anything better would be happening if anyone else were in office. That cardboard cut out of your asshole is also better than every single 2016 option.
 
I wasn't implying I think he's a great president.

I just think it's a bit delusional to think anything better would be happening if anyone else were in office. That cardboard cut out of your asshole is also better than every single 2016 option.

can i ass you a favor?? may i use you as an endorsement??
 
Germany is pulling out of Turkey. Kinda like moving aside when the guy next to you is gonna get punched in the face. Gateway to Europe. Someone is going to shut it. His name is Putin.
 
Germany is pulling out of Turkey. Kinda like moving aside when the guy next to you is gonna get punched in the face. Gateway to Europe. Someone is going to shut it. His name is Putin.

Oh yes! I'd be moving aside too. Putin is gonna kick some ass.
 
Oh yes! I'd be moving aside too. Putin is gonna kick some ass.

Although Turkey is part of NATO, which makes me scratch my head, and even though 90 percent of NATO is armed with sticks and rocks, Russia will sanction them.
 
Although Turkey is part of NATO, which makes me scratch my head, and even though 90 percent of NATO is armed with sticks and rocks, Russia will sanction them.

Bout time you got here. I'm getting bored talking to myself.

The whole Turkey/ Syria/ Russia/ USA etc etc thing seems a little bit messed up. I don't think any of it passes the smell test.
 
Bout time you got here. I'm getting bored talking to myself.

The whole Turkey/ Syria/ Russia/ USA etc etc thing seems a little bit messed up. I don't think any of it passes the smell test.

The fact that I am left to admire a foreign leader, Putin, is just fucked. I'm all american, love my country, love people who love my country. Or used to. I was a born democrat, Michigan, family of auto workers, UAW.....but now, I've been morphed into a red assed conservative who thinks foreign policy more than anything now. What's really scary is that the young people now have no clue of how to think for themselves, led by Facebook posts and memes to guide them politcally.....
 
Every bleeding heart liberal fgt feels guilt for our ancestors placing Japanese people in internment camps during WWII...so now they want to have buttsex with the enemy to make up for it...fucking ponderous, man...
 
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