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flat bench vs. incline bench?

redtopp06

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some guy in the gym told me i should be doing the same weight for incline and flat bench. and not for reps but a max. this dude is crazy. im at 275x5 on incline and 355x5 on flat. what do you guys think about this?
 
my #s are that high. its not about my #s though. its about what this dude told me. im asking cuz this dude is kinda swole. if it was some little bitch i would care. i figured a dude with a good build knows somethin.
 
redtopp06 said:
my #s are that high. its not about my #s though. its about what this dude told me. im asking cuz this dude is kinda swole. if it was some little bitch i would care. i figured a dude with a good build knows somethin.
your strong if those are your numbers, and probably big as well.

unless you just started lifting and are a freak who puts that up after never working out, you should know from personal experience hes full of shit
 
who does a max on the incline? people saving for shoulder replacements?

your incline would probably be close to your flat if you were a typical gym-douche with no back strength to stabilize a heavy flat press.
 
lol @ sublime. Yeah, that guy is an idiot. If your incline is on par with your flat, you are out of proportioned and have more or less fucked up symmetrical training.
 
yeah my incline has NEVER been close my flat bench. even when i was a light weight. and you're right tweakle, a max on incline is the dumbest shit someone could do. some people think that their should be a max on everything they lift. thats why some people get hurt in the gym
 
I have a buddy who swears his incline is heavier than his flat. He looks incredibly disproportional though. Huge arms and skinny legs (I doubt he ever works legs).
 
everyone is differnt. it means nothing. mine have always been pretty close depends on what i am working on. you can max on incline is no big deal u dont want to do it everyworkout. good form, warm up, and you will be fine. u can max on anything wtf. people.
 
One of the reasons that powerlifters make an arch when benching is to put their chest into a decline position to improve mechanical advantage.

Contrast your flat bench with a strict overhead press and imagine a spread of weights all the way between a mild decline and a fully upright position. It's expected that a more-vertical angle moves emphasis towards the delts and triceps and away from the back and pec major. It will also move emphasis from front delts more towards side delts. What that does for your numbers depends on your development.

It's also harder to work in leg drive on an incline press. Most guys with a balanced functional development will press a lot more on a flat bench than an incline simply due to involvement of more muscle.
 
Tweakle said:
who does a max on the incline? people saving for shoulder replacements?

your incline would probably be close to your flat if you were a typical gym-douche with no back strength to stabilize a heavy flat press.

why not max on incline? i don't see any problem as long as you don't have shoulder issues before and your form is good.
 
I think it's the shoulder issues after that he's concerned with. Also note that, when you're going for a max, form is often more a matter of luck than management.
 
exactly! with the incline the elbows are much more likely to be flared than with a flat & the bar will be higher on the chest neither of which are good for the average shoulder capsule.
 
Tweakle said:
exactly! with the incline the elbows are much more likely to be flared than with a flat & the bar will be higher on the chest neither of which are good for the average shoulder capsule.

is that true about decline bench having more emphasis on the chest muscle?
 
nodiggitydave said:
is that true about decline bench having more emphasis on the chest muscle?
i dunno what tweakle is gunna say, but personally i think its different for everyone. some people swear by incline for chest, others like flat or decline. every body is different so experiment and feel what muscles you tend to recruit for each lift.
 
redtopp06 said:
some guy in the gym told me i should be doing the same weight for incline and flat bench. and not for reps but a max. this dude is crazy. im at 275x5 on incline and 355x5 on flat. what do you guys think about this?

you should not have "that" big of a difference between incline and flat.......unless you're doing flat powerlifter stylie with your back looking like the mickey d's arch. In that case, yes you're going to flat a whole lot more because you're using your whole body to bench and you're decreasing the distance, almost turning flat into decline. On incline's you can't arch the same...........but they make your pecs look better as well as functinonally help tie in your delts and upper pecs.
 
I'm not the person to ask about isolating a muscle, or what's 'best'.. declines can help your flat by getting you used to handling heavier weight and they're slightly easier on the shoulders (imo) but I don't think there's much in it.

10-30 degree declines that is, the super deep decline benches are as bad as the super upright inclines (imo)
 
Tweakle said:
I'm not the person to ask about isolating a muscle, or what's 'best'.. declines can help your flat by getting you used to handling heavier weight and they're slightly easier on the shoulders (imo) but I don't think there's much in it.

10-30 degree declines that is, the super deep decline benches are as bad as the super upright inclines (imo)
i basically feel like im doing upsidedown dips when i do those, and if my elbows flare at all, i feel like im tearing every single muscle in my upper body lol
 
When it comes to presses you need flat, incline, and decline presses, you need all three. Think of them as part of the team that will help you put size on your pecs.
 
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