First Cutting Cycle

[RoidRaver]

Hello guys/girls,

I have ran cycles before however i haven't ran a cutting cycle until now and would like as much feedback as possible; whether it be positive or negative feedback. Every bit of information helps me improve my cycle set up and knowledge.

My stats:
27
6"6' (199cm)
242 pounds (110kg)
Body fat% 18

Here is what i have planned:

12 week Cycle

Test P (inj) 100mg/eod (week 1-12)
Tren A (inj) 75mg/eod (week 7-12)
EQ? worth it? 2 x 200mg per week (week 1-8)
Anavar (tabs) 50mg/ed (week 7-12) or (week 1-6)

T3 taper 25/50/75/100/75/50/25mcg


Cycle Support

Caber 1mg per week @ 2x 0.5mg
Letrozole .25mg ED (for GH effects/fatty tissue reduction) or aromasin 6.25mg ED?
Proviron 25mg ED
HCG 500iu per week @ 2x 250iu starting week 3
liv 52 ED

PCT

Clomid 4 weeks (5 if needed)
300(day1)/100/100/50/50/50

I have a few questions also. What are your thoughts on:


is EQ worth running?
Is a low dose of Letro still too harsh or use Aromasin?
Is Clomid enough for PCT with no Nolva since i'm using a 19 nor steroid?
Should i use Caber through out the cycle or keep it on hand?
When is the best time to user the T3 taper, towards start or end of cycle?


Cheers,
RR

 

[Race121]

Your EQ dose is kind of low and short on length.

 

[Tbijlaard]

If your running EQ do it all 12 weeks on 600mg, 400mg is to low and 8 weeks to short. I think 15weeks is the minimum for the best effects.. If your only use it for the "getting hungry" part than 400mg is good for 8 weeks

 

[Tbijlaard]

T3 the max 10weeks. So begin with it in week3

 

[EZ_E]

To answer your question about the EQ being worth it, I'd say no @ that dose and length but I'm not a guru on EQ...personally I'd run the tren @ the beginning and the Var @ the end, but that's me

You're starting HCG way too early & your PCT is WEAK.....search for PCT's on the site....Rick rock and Dylan have great PCT's in their sigs....

You're a big guy but I'd feel like you can cut with the right diet & training changes....then run this cycle

And Welcome to EF, glad to have you with us

 

[Race121]

You also might want to try to knock the BF% down a few clicks before starting up. As EZ-E said, the vets can really help you dial in an optimal PCT.

 

[RoidRaver]

So if i bump up the EQ to say 800mg a week, would i notices anything from it with a good diet and training plan at say 15-18% body fat?

Also 7 weeks of T3 i'll start 7 weeks before the last tren pin.

as for PCT, im currently researching more about making it a stronger PCT before i go on cycle, want everything perfect now rather than regret it during the cycle. clomid and AI on pct for sure, HCG throughout cycle starting 3 weeks in.

 

[RoidRaver]

At 18% body fat would i notice any difference with EQ or Mast?

 

[dylangemelli]

At 18% body fat would i notice any difference with EQ or Mast?

You won't notice anything with mast unless your under 10% and you also would need to run eq atThe MINIMUM 16 weeks... Also, your body fat is a big issue... It's very dangerous to use steroids over 15%... You need to get under that first... You should run a sarms cycle first and then run a cycle... They will get your body fat down to where it needs to be


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[RoidRaver]

Was thinking whether this is a little bit complicated for a first cutting cycle.

Could i get away with just running test/tren/t3?
aromasin on cycle and pct with aromasin, clomid and nolva?
HCG throughout cycle but not at the end?
Caber on hand still but only use if needed?

will aim to get body fat to 15% before i start cycling.

 

[EZ_E]

Was thinking whether this is a little bit complicated for a first cutting cycle.

Could i get away with just running test/tren/t3?
aromasin on cycle and pct with aromasin, clomid and nolva?
HCG throughout cycle but not at the end?
Caber on hand still but only use if needed?

will aim to get body fat to 15% before i start cycling.

Re read the 2nd paragraph of my post

 

[RoidRaver]

Re read the 2nd paragraph of my post

yes Dylan and Rickrock, have looked at their sigs but no PCT mentioned in sigs. Rickrock's says to pm him for help which i will do.

 

[RoidRaver]

Have thought about it and think maybe this cycle is a bit heavy for a first cut. Have changed it up a bit. thoughts?

Cycle:
Weeks 1-12
Test E 5-600mg (2 doses per week)
Weeks 5-12
Tren A 350mg (50mg ED)\
T3 Taper
Aromasin 12.5mg ED
Caber .5mg twice a week (same days you pin test)

standard Nolva/Clomid PCT when last ester cleared from system.

Probably will run HCG blast just at end of cycle instead of through out.

 

[GLH78]

I'm about to run:

Wk: 1-12--125mg test prop eod
Wk: 1-10--150mg Primo eod
Wk: 5-10--50mg Anavar ed

Keeping it simple. My bf is 10%. I would never use EQ on cutting because it made me so hungry, that being said I love EQ and have ran it at 800mg before, love it but you have a huge appetite. I have used Tren a couple of time but can't stand the sides and lack of aerobic ability, plus it made me evil, I ruined Christmas one year with a combo of test, tren and alcohol. I would use primo Or mast over tren anytime. Tren is good stuff though, just not for me. I've never messed with T3 never had to, I keep 10% bf all year and the clean good gear does the trick. I would say get your diet right and get yourself down to 10% bf then start your cycle. PCT, I have never used hcg and I would only use it at the end of a cycle for 2 weeks then just do 3 weeks of clomid. Your not going crazy so there's no need to complicate things with Pct and all those inhibitors.

 

[RoidRaver]

bump

 

[RoidRaver]

This is what i have decided to go with. thoughts?

My stats:
27
6"6' (199cm)
242 pounds (110kg)
Body fat% 18 (15% before i cycle)

Here is what i have planned:

12 week Cycle:

Test P 100mg/eod (week 1-12)
Tren A 75mg/eod (week 4-9)
T3 taper 25/50/75/100/75/50/25mcg (same time as tren. taper t3 to see how i handle it for a first time use)


Cycle Support:

Caber 1mg per week @ 2x 0.5mg
Aromasin 12.5mg ED
HCG 500iu per week @ 2x 250iu starting week 3 increasing to 250iu/day for last week before PCT.

liv 52 ED
Multi-vitamin

PCT:
Clomid 4 weeks (5 if needed) 100/100/50/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20




is my HCG setup ok, thought of running through-out and a slight increase at the end of the cycle before PCT?

Also would i be best to use T3 while using tren? dont want to use T3 for more than 7 weeks and im running Tren for 6 weeks. Was thinking starting the cycle and ending the cycle with test only and doing Tren/T3 in the middle.

Also i have heard that running tren higher than test is better for less sides, i would like to do this. How would you change my dosages? also i was thinking of starting off with test p and switching to test e (due to cost), how would you structure this?