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bandit98

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Hi to all of you. On here on hubbies sign in, and been reading casually on here for some time and lots of other boards. Have not to date seen any women experimenting or daring to try this stuff, and if they have, they apparently are not talking or whatever. So, have bit the bullet and am doing it myself, against husbands better wishes, so oh well.
Me, 44 year old married white female, 5'7", lol, used to be around 125-130 pounds few years back when was teaching aerobics like crazy. Got into the weightlifting hard about 4 years ago, been on creatine, nitric, glutamine and whey protein 3 x day for quite some time now. Last couple of years, I have changed alot, a whole lot. Eating right, protein intake at over 2 grams day per bodyweight and I lift as heavy as i can with the low reps, bulking so to speak. I wanna be BIG. ok. Bottom line. Bodyweight before xtreme tren was around 158.
Biceps which were "stuck" at 13.25 - 13.5" maxed and pumped at most. Never ever done steroids, and dont wanna get busted, so thats out. Read on Xtreme tren till crosseyed, and the 19-nor and women things.
Doing it now. Started 10 days ago, changes thus far are UNREAL and frankly hard to believe. No sides to speak of yet, watching closely, dosing at 30mg 1xday.
Legs and butt leaning out awesome. Chest, Shoulders, Back, Biceps, nothing short of amazing transformation going on. Last nite after arm workout, pushed tape measure to 14.25" of rock hard solid muscle at 167 pounds. Will keep you all posted since i am the guinea pig of my choosing here lol, but welcome input as well.
To give you an idea, yes, I am looking in this little oklahoma town, very big for a woman around here. Shopping.........for some reason, men, and women both stare and while i am attractive anyway but they arent looking at attractiveness for sure lol, also have already been asked several times this week if i am on roids and how i am getting so huge so fast, its like i am just exploding on this stuff. Husband is not believing his own eyes because he just thinks what is happening cannot be happening so fast so suddenly...........funny watching his face.
Any thoughts? No, am not crazy woman, just wanna be BIG.
Not really looking for nasty rude comments, just decent thoughts/advice? Or any other women tried this and not commented on it?
 
I can't wait to hear the responses to your post! I have been curious as to the outcome of a lady on Tren. I support your decision and if you aren't experiencing any sides that's great. Also you are 44 and can do what you want, right?

Go Girl!!!!
 
Well sign up under your own account and I will give you a free plat. Moght as well join under your own account and be a part of the family. We would love to hear from you everyday on this subject.
 
Are you taking this?
http://www.americell-labs.com/trenxtreme.html

I have never heard of it before? I am curious to know how you respond to it. How long o the directions say to take it for?

And BTW, i want to be massive too, but I am the biggest hard gainer in the world. :) I only have 12' arms at 5'10. SO you are doing great!!!
 
No no no! Promise it is not spam ad, would never do that, why would I? sheesh. and its not american cell, its the knockoff, dont know if i can say name of it on here without getting in trouble, but not the acl, supposed to be identical, and actually has better reviews from users if you do alot of research in to it. Went 2 years back on it before taking the plunge.

I appreciate the comments from all of you very much, and thank you for telling me I am doing great on my biceps too. I thought 14.25" was still tiny for me! lol. I am new to arms, chest, back, lats and traps being this big, but esp the biceps seem to get zeroed in on, is this why i keep getting stared at everywhere i go because i broke the 14" mark????????? kinda fun.

again, i promise, no spammer here. I love the way am feeling on it, very very much stronger too. Talked to hubbie, he just told me can have his signon, he was helping me research too what to use, not use etc. Lots of good stories on some women and 19-nor products, I now see why.
And if any of you are women thinking bout it, all i can say is go for it, if you start to see or feel any virilaztion signs, Just stop! Thats my best advice.
 
bandit98 said:
No no no! Promise it is not spam ad, would never do that, why would I? sheesh. and its not american cell, its the knockoff, dont know if i can say name of it on here without getting in trouble, but not the acl, supposed to be identical, and actually has better reviews from users if you do alot of research in to it. Went 2 years back on it before taking the plunge.

I appreciate the comments from all of you very much, and thank you for telling me I am doing great on my biceps too. I thought 14.25" was still tiny for me! lol. I am new to arms, chest, back, lats and traps being this big, but esp the biceps seem to get zeroed in on, is this why i keep getting stared at everywhere i go because i broke the 14" mark????????? kinda fun.

again, i promise, no spammer here. I love the way am feeling on it, very very much stronger too. Talked to hubbie, he just told me can have his signon, he was helping me research too what to use, not use etc. Lots of good stories on some women and 19-nor products, I now see why.
And if any of you are women thinking bout it, all i can say is go for it, if you start to see or feel any virilaztion signs, Just stop! Thats my best advice.
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That sounds good, you should definitely mention the brand name. It would help out those that would like to buy it. Also is it available in stores? or only online?

Funny I thought you were talking about Tren at first, then I thought, no it must be something else :)
 
Yes, it is exactly the one that Musclemom pointed out. Thats the one that had better reviews even than ones using the acl original one. Now, do i know exactly what all is in it? nope. Not for sure, nowadays, who can be sure of anything.

Asked about dosages earlier. The acl brand lable says do not exceed 6 per day. Thats a crazy amount from what I have read. The xtreme tren says 1 to 3, do not exceed 3 per day. From what I can tell most big guys, the bodybuilders and powerlifters using it who average 225 pounds and up say that for them, 90mg (3 capsules day) is king right now. Some guys are only using 60, point is, gotta find what works.
Being female, 30mg is kicking a** for me for sure. lol.
I am also running milk thistle with this, both during and after, even tho it says is non-methylated, i have also read that it is, dont know for sure.
Have also read on numerous boards.......some say conversion rate to "nandralone" is 5.6% per 30mg. I doubt it as strong as this seems to be. Alot of higher post members everywhere have said it does not convert to "tren" but has tren like effects. Some have said it converts to almost something like deca, or durabolin, with even winstrol like actions. I dunno......but even alot say it converts to Dienelone (sp?) because the trade name is 19-Norandrosta 4,9 diene- 3,17 dione , but on the bottle itself it lists it as: estra-4,9-diene-3,17-dione which was the Finigenix formula.
Regardless, seems no one really knows for sure what it surely converts to for real. All i know is it has worked for many, and is working for me. Makes me wonder if any women have experimented with the finigenix formula as well, surely someone has?
 
Had some questions about this product. My fitness trainer wants me to go on this and I am for trying it out but this is what I want to achieve. I got some nice muscle on me right now but I do not want to get huge. I want to lose my last layer of fat, so about 7 pounds and I want to be ripped but not huge. What will the Xtreme Tren do and is it safe for liver and kidneys? I've been reading the posts and I noticed lots of people have been gaining lots of muscle weight, but have you been losing any fat along with that? Thanks.
 
renauldo99 said:
Had some questions about this product. My fitness trainer wants me to go on this and I am for trying it out but this is what I want to achieve. I got some nice muscle on me right now but I do not want to get huge. I want to lose my last layer of fat, so about 7 pounds and I want to be ripped but not huge. What will the Xtreme Tren do and is it safe for liver and kidneys? I've been reading the posts and I noticed lots of people have been gaining lots of muscle weight, but have you been losing any fat along with that? Thanks.
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Welcome to EF.

Have you ever done any type of steroid or prohormone before? Anavar, Winny?

If not, i'm not sure you would want to start out with tren. Does your trainer have other female clients on this that you could talk to?
 
Prohormone`s more often then not gives a female more sides then gains as they are typically designed for men to work with there body chemistery not with the females.
 
Rebecca D said:
Curious about the 1-t tren product. Would this be a good product for women???

Rebecca D
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Hell no. That is a tren compound. I would not advice a woman to use tren ans like wise would not have then use 1-t-tren ether.

If you had to use a pro then I would go with Furazadrol
Non of the sponsors on ef sell it that I know of though.

Furazadrol=winny.

It differs from stanozolol by having a furazan ring system in place of the pyrazole and the mythelation has been removed. By making these changes it has been made legal.


I do not advice the use of this to any woman. But Hay you are your own person.
 
NEEDTO,

The reason I'm curious is I did a bottle of the Furazadrol with minimal results. I've done 2 cycles of Bold 200 with decent results. The Bold did cause acne and an irregular period but nothing else that I noticed. I have lifted for 10 years and have always ate a healthy diet. I have really started to work on my diet the past 6 months to get to the level of a competitor. I have never competed but several friends at the gym have started and I wouldn't mind trying a masters division. My point....besides illegals and the Furazadrol, what could I use to gain a little more muscle? I noticed you said beastrol was better than var, but is it okay for us ladies. A few of the ladies I work out with take anavar but I'm a little afraid of anything illegal. Is var the best bet, should I try the Furazadrol again? Not looking to do anything anytime soon but just gathering as much info as possible from people who know more than me.

Rebecca D:verygood:
 
Rebecca D said:
NEEDTO,

The reason I'm curious is I did a bottle of the Furazadrol with minimal results. I've done 2 cycles of Bold 200 with decent results. The Bold did cause acne and an irregular period but nothing else that I noticed. I have lifted for 10 years and have always ate a healthy diet. I have really started to work on my diet the past 6 months to get to the level of a competitor. I have never competed but several friends at the gym have started and I wouldn't mind trying a masters division. My point....besides illegals and the Furazadrol, what could I use to gain a little more muscle? I noticed you said beastrol was better than var, but is it okay for us ladies. A few of the ladies I work out with take anavar but I'm a little afraid of anything illegal. Is var the best bet, should I try the Furazadrol again? Not looking to do anything anytime soon but just gathering as much info as possible from people who know more than me.

Rebecca D:verygood:
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Well I could be a real prick and say OOHHH ya beastdrol is bad ass,its legal and it will give you massive gains (which it will) and leave it at that. Since I sell make and sell the product.

I am sorry babe but I would not wish beastdrol on a woman. Its by far the most powerful oral compound ever and its a strong dht derivative.

Besides even if you were to take it you would need to take AAAHH 2.5mg ed. And like all superdrol brands my beastdrol comes in 10mg caps. You would need to open up the cap and split that into 4 doses.


Now even though William llewelly's anabolics 9th gives dosing guidelines for woman and makes reference to the fact that woman do use the compound. I myself am not so comfortable saying its ok. Again everyone makes there own choices in life. The compound is very androgenic!! As in manly man man put the hair on your chest :evil:
So For woman I give it a no.

Anny kind of tren derivative I would also give a no.
Women should not be taking any compound which is highly androgenic and the true prohormones on the market now are androgenic. I haven't seen any prohormones for winstrol, primobolan, anavar(besides Furazadrol) which are the only anabolics I would recommend to any woman (if I was ever to do so in the first place)..

Truthfully I can only give you the information and its up to you to make your choices. To give you an Idea of what is out there.

Methoxy-TST
Innovator: Bioscience Technologies
Nomenclature: 17b-methoxytrienosterone
Pill size: 2mg
Dosages: The label recommends 2-6mg daily, but many users report only noticing effects when dosed at 8-12mg.
Side effects: Low liver toxicity. Some users say this is a libido killer, yet others say the exact opposite. Other users report sides of thinning hair/hair loss.
Reputation: Seemingly underdosed, methoxy-TST could be considered an underrated designer, as many users have reported some substantial gains with higher dosages.


Epistane/Havoc/Hemaguno
Innovators: IBE, RPN, Spectra Force
Nomenclature: 2a-3a-epithio-17a-methyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol
Pill Size: 10mg or 12.5mg depending on what brand you use
Dosages: 20-50mg
Side Effects: Milder on liver and lipid levels than other methyls. Known to cause lower back and calf pumps.
Reputation: There has had some spectroscopy and compound identification issues with these products, but from personal experience with it, is still a solid product. Many users have taken this compound as a solo run for gynecomastia reduction due to it's SERM-like and anti-aromatase properties. It is also a popular compound for use with the 'pulse method' of taking orals. Users can expect to see significant gains in both strength and mass.


Pheraplex:
Innovator: Designer Supplements
Nomenclature: 17a-Methyl-etioallocholan-2-ene-17b-ol
Pill Size: 10mg
Dosages: 10-40mg
Side Effects: liver toxicity, bad lipid profile, lower back and calf pumps, some users report aggrevation of gynecomastia with this compound.
Reputation: Solid product for bulking. Wet gains. It is a sometimes used to jumpstart an injectable cycle. This is the less androgenic isomer in the Ergomax LMG matrix.


Ergomax LMG
Innovator: ALRI
Nomenclature: 17-methyl-delta-2-etioallocholane & 17-methyl-delta-3-etioallocholane
Pill Size: 10mg
Dosages: 10-40mg
Side effects: liver toxicity, bad lipid profiles, lower back and calf pumps, may aggrevate gynecomastia.
Reputation: Again pretty solid for bulking. Users can expect similar gains as with pheraplex.


Superdrol:
Innovator: Designer Supplements
Nomenclature: 2a, 17a-dimethyl-17?-hydroxy-5a-etiocholan -3-one
Pill size: 10mg
Dosages: 10-30mg
Side Effects: liver toxicity, bad lipid profiles, hypoglycemia lower back and calf pumps, some users report agrivation of gynecomastia with this compound. From personal experience, it gives me a wicked rebound, that causes some flare-up.
Reputation: Side effects vary from mild to extremely harsh, so use caution if planning your first run. Excellent dry gains. Great for bulking or cutting. Explosive strength gains.
This is a methylated form of Drostanolone (Masteron)


Methoxy-TRN
Innovator: ALRI
Nomenclature: 17b-Methoxy-Trienbolone
Pill size: 1.5mg
Dosages: 1.5-6mg
Side effects: Affects libido (some positively some negatively), can aggrevate gynecomastia. May cause thinning hair/ hair loss. Also another progestin.
Reputation: This guy is a real hit or miss. Some users loved the stuff, while others did not notice anything from it. From personal experience, I've noticed increases in strength as well as decreases in bodyfat.


Halodrol-50
Innovator: Gaspari Nutrition
Nomenclature: 4-chloro-17a-methyl-1,4-diene-3,17 diol
Pill Size: 50mg
Dosages: 25-75mg
Side effects: Heptatoxicity, lower back/calf pumps
Reputation: Milder than superdrol or pheraplex. Modest gains in mass and strength. Most users take this as part of a cutting cycle.
This is a prosteroid of Turinabol.

Prostanozol/ Orasan-E
Innovators: ALRI, Gaspari Nutrition
Nomenclature: [3,2-c]pyrazole-5alpha-etioallocholane-17beta-tetrahydropyranol
Pill size: 25mg
Dosages: 50-150mg (Although it is not uncommon to go much higher than this)
Side effects: very few sides. Some users report thinning hair/hair loss.
Reputation: Possibly the most mild of the designers, this compound is rarely run standalone. It is often stacked with a methyl compound for a lean bulk or cut. Very mild, yet easily maintained gains.
This is a de-alkylated derivative of Stanozol (winstrol).


Finigenix Magnum
Innovators: PharmagenX
Nomenclature: Estra-4, 9-diene-3, 17-dione
Dosages: 50-75mg
Side effects: aggrevation of gynecomastia. This is a progestin (it can convert to trenbolone). Expect tren-like sides.
Reputation: Though there hasn't been much logged on this bad boy, those who've used it have liked it. This is a prohormone to Tren.

Propadrol:
Innovator: EST Nutrition
Nomenclures: 12-ethyl-3-methoxy-gona-diene &
6-17 dihydroxyetiocholone-3-ol proponate
Dosages: 1-2 caps daily
Side effects: low side effects
Reputation: User's who've taken it have reported great decreases in bodyfat, while increasing musclemass and strength. Not much data is present on this compound within this forum. NOTE: this is does not contain the same compound as Max LMG. They are close, but no cigar.


Max LMG
Innovator: ALRI
Nomenclature: 13-ethyl-3methoxygona-2, 5(10)-dien-17-one
Pill size: 25mg
Dosages: 25-135mg daily
Side effects: Can easily aggrevate gynecomastia. May be a libido killer. This is another progestin.
Reputation: A bulking compound through and through. Users can expect great recovery, and soaking WET gains.


M-1,4ADD
Innovator: unknown
Nomenclature: 17a-methyl-1,4-Androstadiene-3,17diol
Dosages: 30-90mg daily
Side effects: heptatoxicity, slight possibility to aggrevate gyno
Reputation: Great for a bulk. Somewhat wet gains, and decent strength gains. This is a prohormone of Dianabol. However, since dianabol and Boldenone are so very similar, it is believed that the actions of this prohormone are more similar to boldenone than to dianabol (methylboldenone).

1,4 AD
Innovator: Molecular Nutrition
Dosages: 300-600mg
Nomenclature: 1,4-Androstadiene-3,17-dione
Side effects: Mild
Reputation: Very weak and not very cost-efficient at the moment. This compound is often stacked with a methyl to potentiate and accelerate gains. Cycles are usually run at a MINIMUM of 4 weeks as this one takes a few weeks to 'kick in'. Slow, steady, and easily maintainable gains. This is a prohormone of Boldenone.

Promagnon-25
Innovator: Peak Performance Labs
Dosages: 25-75mg
Nomenclature:4-chloro-17a-methyl-andro-4-ene-3,17b-diol
Side effects: The usual sides associated with methylated compounds (heptatoxicity, lower back/calf pumps)
Reputation: Very similar to that of Halodrol-50, although people who've tried both seem to prefer Halodrol. For a while a lot of people were conviced that these two products were one in the same. Rest assured, they are not. This is a methyl derivative of clostebol.


Oxyguno
Innovator: Spectra Force
Nomenclature: 4-chloro-17 -methyl- etioallochol-4-ene- 17 -ol-3,11-dione
Pill Size: 7.5mg
Dosages: 7.5-22.5mg daily
Side effects: Heptatoxicity from 17a-methylation. Very low androgenic sides.
Reputation: This is a derivative of the fish androgen, 11-keto-testosterone. 17 alkylation improves oral bioavailability; however, the addition of a 4-chloro group greatly lowers the anabolic/androgenic potential of an already weak androgen. What we're left with is a steroid with an incredibly low Q factor (anabolic divided by androgenic). I would expect this to be a great addition for cutting or possibly recomp, but a poor choice for bulking or looking to gain strength.

Furaguno/ Ortasan-A
Innovators: Spectra Force / Gaspari Nutrition
Pill Size: 33mg
Nomenclature: 5a0androstano[2,3-c] furazan-17b-tetrahydropyranol
Dosages: 33-99mg daily
Side Effects: very mild
Reputation: Supposedly lowers cholesterol, increases androgenic receptor activity, and does not induce any heptatoxicity. This product is too young on the market to have developed a reputation yet. Get some, log it, and let us know so I can update this compound's profile. This is a prosteroid to furazabol.

11-oxo/Adrenodione
Innovator: Anabolic Xtreme / Ergopharm
Pill Size: 150mg
Dosages: 450mg
Nomenclature: andrenosterone, 11-oxo-androstenedione, or 4-androstene-3,11,17-trione (all mean the same thing)
Side effects: Mild
Reputation: This prohormone has a great affinity for blocking conversion to cortisol. User's report great changes in body composition, namely significant fatloss. If you're looking for some mass gains, you might opt for something else.

I can advice on dosing but I do not condone it or aaahh think its the best Idea.
 
Wow, I wanted information but this is wonderful. I've done some research on some of these but this definately gives me something to start with. As I said before, I have no plans to do anything soon, but I would like to try something next fall. Maybe the Furazadrol again or maybe something a little stronger. I appreciate the information.
One question, if you had a girlfriend/wife in my situation what would you recommend. I know it might not be what I want to hear but I want as many informed opinions as possible.

Thanks again,

Rebecca D
 
Rebecca D said:
Wow, I wanted information but this is wonderful. I've done some research on some of these but this definately gives me something to start with. As I said before, I have no plans to do anything soon, but I would like to try something next fall. Maybe the Furazadrol again or maybe something a little stronger. I appreciate the information.
One question, if you had a girlfriend/wife in my situation what would you recommend. I know it might not be what I want to hear but I want as many informed opinions as possible.

Thanks again,

Rebecca D
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Rebecca, I might suggest Dermacrine. The sponsor won't recommend it for women, but I used it right after it was released and holy shiznit I felt great, made nice gains, and only sides was some slight, temporary backne. I think I noticed someone say they'd given you a temp plat, so you can search for my Dermacrine thread from '07 IIRC and read about my experiences as I'd blogged them.
 
Anyone catch any of the news shows on X-treme Tren? I saw them a few times while at the gym but couldn't hear it. It is the new steroid of choice for teens I guess.
This is a great thread to remind everyone diet it number one when it comes to results. What you get out of anyone depends on what you fuel your body with. You should know what to eat, when to eat it, how much to eat and why you are eating it.
I have worked out with a few IFBB Pro womens BBers who have never used more then Anavar and Clen.
On the flip side I have judged women who have used test, deca, insulin etc who compete in figure.
The bottom line is what you are willing to risk and how much work you are willing to put in.
 
RottenWillow said:
Rebecca, I might suggest Dermacrine. The sponsor won't recommend it for women, but I used it right after it was released and holy shiznit I felt great, made nice gains, and only sides was some slight, temporary backne. I think I noticed someone say they'd given you a temp plat, so you can search for my Dermacrine thread from '07 IIRC and read about my experiences as I'd blogged them.
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I think this is one of the better choices. Along with some of the other products PP has this can be a good thing. I would speak with willow she has some good experence with the product. You can get with me for a discount if its something you ever make the choice to do.
 
needto,

Thanks again for all the info. I am very interested in the dermacrine but should I wait to use it? (I just completed a cycle of Bold 200 at the end of Feb.) Is it a product you cycle or is it okay to use year round?

Rebecca d
 
I heard bout the xtreme tren report on CBS news. You can google it up and watch it. They actually did 2 reports on it. Also they sent some to the lab and the doctor who tested it said its not a supplement, but an out and out steroid. He did not however confirm what was in it. Said it was very very close to the real steroid Trenbolone tho.
I am still running the xtreme tren off and on, usually 4 weeks on, 4-8 weeks off. am also running it at 2 caps day. Guess what, I am still a woman, no androgenic sides visible either. Furazadrol, ran it. Its weak, You would have to run it at at least 2-3 caps day, the guys run it lot higher than that which makes it very cost ineffective. I ran H-drol and loved it, ran it at 50mg day, no sides, good lean gains, fat loss, incredible pumps.
Ok, this should shock all, have been running xtreme tren stacked with 1 cap of M-drol, knockoff of Superdrol. Its awesome, its my second cycle, and my little 13.25" biceps are now 15" when pumped after an awesome workout. Still sound like a woman, look like a woman, and get lots and lots of compliments.
SO..........guys on here are right, things effect different people differently. Start small, work your way up. Keep diet in check, cardio, eat right, lift right, you can get big.
 
bandit98 said:
I heard bout the xtreme tren report on CBS news. You can google it up and watch it. They actually did 2 reports on it. Also they sent some to the lab and the doctor who tested it said its not a supplement, but an out and out steroid. He did not however confirm what was in it. Said it was very very close to the real steroid Trenbolone tho.
I am still running the xtreme tren off and on, usually 4 weeks on, 4-8 weeks off. am also running it at 2 caps day. Guess what, I am still a woman, no androgenic sides visible either. Furazadrol, ran it. Its weak, You would have to run it at at least 2-3 caps day, the guys run it lot higher than that which makes it very cost ineffective. I ran H-drol and loved it, ran it at 50mg day, no sides, good lean gains, fat loss, incredible pumps.
Ok, this should shock all, have been running xtreme tren stacked with 1 cap of M-drol, knockoff of Superdrol. Its awesome, its my second cycle, and my little 13.25" biceps are now 15" when pumped after an awesome workout. Still sound like a woman, look like a woman, and get lots and lots of compliments.
SO..........guys on here are right, things effect different people differently. Start small, work your way up. Keep diet in check, cardio, eat right, lift right, you can get big.
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I hope you reach all of your goals safely. Keep us posted on your progress.
 
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bandit98 said:
I heard bout the xtreme tren report on CBS news. You can google it up and watch it. They actually did 2 reports on it. Also they sent some to the lab and the doctor who tested it said its not a supplement, but an out and out steroid. He did not however confirm what was in it. Said it was very very close to the real steroid Trenbolone tho.
I am still running the xtreme tren off and on, usually 4 weeks on, 4-8 weeks off. am also running it at 2 caps day. Guess what, I am still a woman, no androgenic sides visible either. Furazadrol, ran it. Its weak, You would have to run it at at least 2-3 caps day, the guys run it lot higher than that which makes it very cost ineffective. I ran H-drol and loved it, ran it at 50mg day, no sides, good lean gains, fat loss, incredible pumps.
Ok, this should shock all, have been running xtreme tren stacked with 1 cap of M-drol, knockoff of Superdrol. Its awesome, its my second cycle, and my little 13.25" biceps are now 15" when pumped after an awesome workout. Still sound like a woman, look like a woman, and get lots and lots of compliments.
SO..........guys on here are right, things effect different people differently. Start small, work your way up. Keep diet in check, cardio, eat right, lift right, you can get big.
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yes I sell tren-tfo same thing as extream tren only 50 cheaper.

Sell the other products too. As some one who sells them and knows about them I do not push them on woman and never would.
 
No one anywhere pushes or recommends them for women, which leaves us to pretty much have to "experiment" on ourselves sometimes.
I am very careful, and do run lots of milk thistle or liv52 for liver protectant.

too bad not more women come forward with what they have really done. there are a ton of muscle ladies out there, and lets be real, we all know it aint all nattie either.
teresa
 
bandit,

I would love to see a picture. If you are shy then at least the neck down. I am trying desperately to increase bicep size. (goal is 13 inches). The only things I have tried are Bold 200 and the Furz. (Bold yielded much better results). But am very cautious because remaining feminine is more important that size. Still interested in others successes.

rebecca d
 
Dermacrine is an exogenous hormone so ideally it should be cycled.

Not being facetious, but I'm starting to wonder if I've been ghosted in the Women's forum based on the almost complete lack of responses to anything I've posted since I came back a few weeks ago.
 
bandit98 said:
I heard bout the xtreme tren report on CBS news. You can google it up and watch it. They actually did 2 reports on it. Also they sent some to the lab and the doctor who tested it said its not a supplement, but an out and out steroid. He did not however confirm what was in it. Said it was very very close to the real steroid Trenbolone tho.
I am still running the xtreme tren off and on, usually 4 weeks on, 4-8 weeks off. am also running it at 2 caps day. Guess what, I am still a woman, no androgenic sides visible either. Furazadrol, ran it. Its weak, You would have to run it at at least 2-3 caps day, the guys run it lot higher than that which makes it very cost ineffective. I ran H-drol and loved it, ran it at 50mg day, no sides, good lean gains, fat loss, incredible pumps.
Ok, this should shock all, have been running xtreme tren stacked with 1 cap of M-drol, knockoff of Superdrol. Its awesome, its my second cycle, and my little 13.25" biceps are now 15" when pumped after an awesome workout. Still sound like a woman, look like a woman, and get lots and lots of compliments.
SO..........guys on here are right, things effect different people differently. Start small, work your way up. Keep diet in check, cardio, eat right, lift right, you can get big.
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Probably the most important proviso to consider in this entire discussion. There's no guarantee of avoiding permanent androgenic sides irrespective of how careful you are. I think any woman who uses any androgen, legal or otherwise, needs to go into the cycle comfortable with the possibility of acquiring some permanent virilization.
 
RottenWillow said:
Dermacrine is an exogenous hormone so ideally it should be cycled.

Not being facetious, but I'm starting to wonder if I've been ghosted in the Women's forum based on the almost complete lack of responses to anything I've posted since I came back a few weeks ago.
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Not in the least bit. I highly regard your thoughts on these subject. In fact when the topic came up you were the first person I thought off. I think as it stands right now you are the only woman here that has experence with dermacrine so you are pretty much the only one with first hand knowledge on the subject.

So what you have to say about it is more importent then the others if you ask me.


SO spill it :biggrin: whats your thoughts on it.
 
bandit98 said:
No one anywhere pushes or recommends them for women, which leaves us to pretty much have to "experiment" on ourselves sometimes.
I am very careful, and do run lots of milk thistle or liv52 for liver protectant.

too bad not more women come forward with what they have really done. there are a ton of muscle ladies out there, and lets be real, we all know it aint all nattie either.
teresa
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Well the problem is if I even acted like I was going to give advice. Which I could since truthfully I know more about these otc steroids and sups then most do. I would be chastised by the masses.

So I tend to just throw out a bit of info and then scurry away lolol
 
needtogetaas said:
Well the problem is if I even acted like I was going to give advice. Which I could since truthfully I know more about these otc steroids and sups then most do. I would be chastised by the masses.

So I tend to just throw out a bit of info and then scurry away lolol
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But you do the right thing, and so many others across the world and in gyms all over tend to "push" things onto men, and women. I admire you for how you relate to others what "could" happen, thats very important, and thank you for saying things the way you do.
 
bandit98 said:
But you do the right thing, and so many others across the world and in gyms all over tend to "push" things onto men, and women. I admire you for how you relate to others what "could" happen, thats very important, and thank you for saying things the way you do.
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NP :biggrin:
 
RottenWillow said:
Dermacrine is an exogenous hormone so ideally it should be cycled.

Not being facetious, but I'm starting to wonder if I've been ghosted in the Women's forum based on the almost complete lack of responses to anything I've posted since I came back a few weeks ago.
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I think you're very knowledgeable. You're definitely not being ghosted here.
 
Wow sounds like good results!
What are your plans when you stop taking it?
Someone should invent a product to help women avoid the crash and help their natural testosterone go back up.
*Somewhere Needto's ears are ringing...
 
bandit98 said:
Has been amazing, have added lots of muscle all over, reduced bodyfat, biceps are 15.25" pumped.
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I just started taking this and I can already feel like I am adding on muscle. The only thing I was wondering is what would be best to stack this with or if I should even do that? Does anyone have any suggestions?
 
Been off the xtreme tren, and m-drol little over 2 weeks. I had read that the m-drol tends to carry over with the gains still coming. Bear in mind, i was running the xtreme tren 2 caps day, m-drol only 1 cap day. Fridays workout, biceps taped out at 15.5", and were pumped like I have never felt.
My plans after i am done getting as big as I want? I dont know really. I really have no desire to step on stage tho in competition, and besides, all that dieting is just not for me, been there done that years ago, when i was a prissy aerobics instructor. More fun gettin big. lol. Besides, its wayyyy too much fun going to the mall or walmart or anywhere else in a tight T back, and watch people point and stare or ask questions. I had no idea...............
 
Just took advantage of the BOGO on the Dermacrine. Not starting for a couple of weeks but will try and keep a log when I do. Thanks again for the info Needto.

Rebecca D
 
Rebecca D said:
Just took advantage of the BOGO on the Dermacrine. Not starting for a couple of weeks but will try and keep a log when I do. Thanks again for the info Needto.

Rebecca D
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I've been doing the recommended dose of Dermacrine (which is established for a man)for 25 days now, and my voice has gotten a bit deeper. I'd be very suprised if this isn't just temporary though since it's only just started and today is my last day on anyway. Just FYI though, large amounts of DHEA can virilize a bit it seems.
 
Willow

What were your results. Strength gains?? Size gains??? Any other issues besides voice???

Rebecca D
 
Rebecca D said:
Willow

What were your results. Strength gains?? Size gains??? Any other issues besides voice???

Rebecca D
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Dermacrine is DHEA, which I believe is considered more of an androgenic steroid than an anabolic one, so it should be more of an aggression, energy and strength booster than a muscle size booster. That's pretty much what I've observed in all 3 cycles I've run it alone. Enormous gains in energy, drive, and focus during workouts. Very good strength gains, but very little muscular bodyweight gains. Girl I got very strong, but didn't get any bigger. Like 20% jump in my bench press in 30 days. Have tried high calories, moderate calories, and minimal calories for gaining, with no difference in muscle gain.

Now stack with with something more anabolic and I'd think it'd be a really potent stack for muscle building. Their 1-T Tren product combines DHEA with other AAS which I think are more purely anabolic.

As for sides, just a very slight appearance of acne on my shoulders and some itchiness in my nipples.
 
Appreciate the response. I'm going to start May 4th (assuming they arrive by then) and try to keep a log. I would like to gain some size but I also like strength gains so I can't wait to get started. I'm definitely intrigued by the 1-t and 1-t tren products but too scared of sides to venture there....Needto's warnings are keeping my experiments at a slow pace.
Besides, the dermacrine sounds like what I need as far as where I am in my workouts and diet.

Rebecca D
 
Rebecca D said:
Appreciate the response. I'm going to start May 4th (assuming they arrive by then) and try to keep a log. I would like to gain some size but I also like strength gains so I can't wait to get started. I'm definitely intrigued by the 1-t and 1-t tren products but too scared of sides to venture there....Needto's warnings are keeping my experiments at a slow pace.
Besides, the dermacrine sounds like what I need as far as where I am in my workouts and diet.

Rebecca D
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HAY HAY good to see you again girl. :biggrin: how you been?
 
Doing great. The dercamine arrived within three days. I am ready to go starting Monday. I just finished an 8 week "cutting" cycle (my first experiment with timing and limiting my carbs) and I was very pleased with the results. I keep toying with entering a local figure contest so I was seeing if I could pull off that strict of a diet. Actually went from 135 to 123 in 8 weeks. (Lifting combined with cardio from hell can wear a lady out). Now I'm ready to eat some more calories and see what the dercamine will do. I will try and keep weekly post since not many women have used this product.
 
Rebecca D said:
Doing great. The dercamine arrived within three days. I am ready to go starting Monday. I just finished an 8 week "cutting" cycle (my first experiment with timing and limiting my carbs) and I was very pleased with the results. I keep toying with entering a local figure contest so I was seeing if I could pull off that strict of a diet. Actually went from 135 to 123 in 8 weeks. (Lifting combined with cardio from hell can wear a lady out). Now I'm ready to eat some more calories and see what the dercamine will do. I will try and keep weekly post since not many women have used this product.
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That would be great. I know a lot of woman areound here are trying to find information on things like this. For a year or so we have had a few woman who have made it uncomfortable for others to talk about using products like this and steroids. We have put a stop to that crap and If I see any one (including staff) pushing to much or being a jerk about others using things like this. I will show them the door.

The site should be filled with all kinds of information. And being as we are a steroid board, I think steroids should be one of the man topics. Or products,boosters, what ever.


Glad to here you were able to stick to the hard diet girl. If you do get into a comp I will support you all the way. So keep a log of that to. And let me know about it.
 
Rebecca D said:
I'm definitely intrigued by the 1-t and 1-t tren products but too scared of sides to venture there.
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Has any lady ever tried Primordial performance's 1-T tren? My wife is considering trying it out. Would it be similar to the xtreme tren discussed on this thread? She already has a handful of pills to swallow everyday so she doesn't mind trying out a transdermal.
 
I ever tried this tren xtreme from american cell labs. It gave me a several side effects. My dosage is 2 caps everyday.

The negatives are, joints lubricant,easy to get cramps at calf, a lot of water retention(it occured after 5days),back acne, my eye vision!like a catarac,I don't know what it is. Bloating, increase estrogen a lot, increase store fat, voice lowered*slowly come back to normal when the cycle off,but my voices lower than before*,

The positives are, increase sex drives*i love it*, clitoris enlargement*after the cycle is over, it reduce slowly to normal*, strenght go up*after cycle is off,lost my strenght than on cycle especially bench press*,lean*much test in my body*

But everybody is different!
Just share my experienced

I don't like the bloating, it was too much. After the cycle I feel deppressed so much! I eat 5-htp to help my mood.

Good luck
 
lohyewcheong said:
Has any lady ever tried Primordial performance's 1-T tren? My wife is considering trying it out. Would it be similar to the xtreme tren discussed on this thread? She already has a handful of pills to swallow everyday so she doesn't mind trying out a transdermal.
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Yes it would be the same only stronger.
 
Newbie here with a quick question so forgive my ignorance if it seems obvious. :)

While on Xtreme, did you take any other supplements? Creatine, fat burner for water retention, etc.? MultiV is a given but was wondering about the others. Thanks in advance!
 
Gatorlee04 said:
Newbie here with a quick question so forgive my ignorance if it seems obvious. :)

While on Xtreme, did you take any other supplements? Creatine, fat burner for water retention, etc.? MultiV is a given but was wondering about the others. Thanks in advance!
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You could take all of this. Also needtobuildmuscle.com has tren-tfo that is the same but more pure and cheaper.
 
needtogetaas said:
You could take all of this. Also needtobuildmuscle.com has tren-tfo that is the same but more pure and cheaper.
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Thanks. I wasn't sure if it would have an effect on how much work the liver needs to do. Should you take something like milk thistle as well? even if you only take the min 30mg?
 
Gatorlee04 said:
Thanks. I wasn't sure if it would have an effect on how much work the liver needs to do. Should you take something like milk thistle as well? even if you only take the min 30mg?
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the 4-9 estra which is the active compound in ether product is a no methylated compound and cause no extra stress to the liver.
 
To bandit98 and the other ladies who have tried the legal version of TREN,
Was there any side effects as far as libido is concerned?
 
slat1 said:
It is WAY stronger than Var. Not even the same planet. Tren is advanced for men!
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While that product is analogous to actual TA, it is not nearly as strong, so I'm not certain it's much stronger than anavar. More androgenic I'd say, but in my experience not more anabolic.
 
I now know of more then a few woman using tren tfo or katanadrol. They took it on themself but gave me feed back. So far they have all been happy. I still do not advice it.
 
Unless she is an ADVANCED ATHLETE this would be a really dumb idea. I have not read thru this whole thread, so please forgive me if that has been mentioned.

Tren for vanity alone (as with MOST AAS) is REALLY not a good idea.
 
Guys we may have developed misunderstanding as this thread has proceeded. The thread starter, Bandit, wasn't taking trenbolone acetate. She was taking one of those designer OTC drugs with some molecular similarity to TA.

In terms of potency, that stuff isn't even in the same league as real TA. I ran a cycle of it, though a different brand, and the gains are nice, but not even the same hemisphere as the results my husband got from bonafide TA. The side effects weren't in the same hemisphere either.
 
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