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ass_face said:
Not quite... it is an instrument of incremental control of the population. That piece of shit was sitting around for decades waiting for the right moment to be foisted upon the American people. 9-11 created that opportunity to enact the Patriot('s Rolling in their grave) Act and now we will be stuck with it well beyond the time when terrorist threat is no more. Welcome to the world Orwell spoke about.

It's pretty clear you've never read it.
 
Fellas, you wanna take this over to the Computer Nerd board, or the Tinfoil Hat board? :nerd:

Agent Everyone, you're welcome to stick around and help us yell at minors and under-thirties, whom we consistently tell "Don't even think about screwing up your systems with hormones and prohormones -- just EAT and WORK OUT."
 
digger said:
Fellas, you wanna take this over to the Computer Nerd board, or the Tinfoil Hat board? :nerd:

Agent Everyone, you're welcome to stick around and help us yell at minors and under-thirties, whom we consistently tell "Don't even think about screwing up your systems with hormones and prohormones -- just EAT and WORK OUT."

Thanks for the invite.
 
mrfuznut said:
It's pretty clear you've never read it.

No, it's pretty clear you haven't.

Here is the definition of a terrorist: domestic terrorism means activities that (A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the U.S. or of any state, that (B) appear to be intended (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population, (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion, or (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping, and (C) occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the U.S.

So pretty much anyone can be considered a terrorist. Selling weed (according to the government) is dangerous to human life... ie, you are a terrorist.

More fun stuff:
* The government would no longer be required to disclose the identity of anyone, even an American citizen, detained in connection with a terror investigation - until criminal charges are filed, no matter how long that takes (sec 201).
* Current court limits on local police spying on religious and political activity would be repealed (sec. 312).
* The government would be allowed to obtain credit records and library records without a warrant (secs. 126, 128, 129).
* Wiretaps without any court order for up to 15 days after terror attack would be permissible. (sec. 103).
* Release of information about health/safety hazards posed by chemical and other plants would be restricted (sec. 202).
* The reach of an already overbroad definition of terrorism would be expanded - individuals engaged in civil disobedience could risk losing their citizenship (sec. 501); their organization could be subject to wiretapping (secs. 120, 121) and asset seizure (secs. 428, 428).
* Americans could be extradited, searched and wiretapped at the behest of foreign nations, whether or not treaties allow it (sec. 321, 322).
* Lawful immigrants would be stripped of the right to a fair deportation hearing and federal courts would not be allowed to review immigration rulings (secs. 503, 504).
 
ass_face said:
Not quite... it is an instrument of incremental control of the population. That piece of shit was sitting around for decades waiting for the right moment to be foisted upon the American people. 9-11 created that opportunity to enact the Patriot('s Rolling in their grave) Act and now we will be stuck with it well beyond the time when terrorist threat is no more. Welcome to the world Orwell spoke about.

if you wanna get down to it, taxes are an instrument of control. And we've been stuck with that shit since the country was founded. If someone goes down by the Patriot Act, then yu fucked up big time.
 
Type in "echelon" into your web browser and see what comes up. They listen to everything ang filter it using certain key words of thier choice to lead them in the right direction. ECHELON.......
 
DIRTDART said:
Type in "echelon" into your web browser and see what comes up. They listen to everything ang filter it using certain key words of thier choice to lead them in the right direction. ECHELON.......

Cute little program, but we rely on programs that are a "bit" more advanced..........:coffee:
 
iHulk said:
if you wanna get down to it, taxes are an instrument of control. And we've been stuck with that shit since the country was founded. If someone goes down by the Patriot Act, then yu fucked up big time.

I agree... taxes were instated more to catch those circumventing the system, than a means to fund the government. A government sales tax would make more sense... because everyone, even criminals, have to buy goods and services.

The governments already made the asinine connection between drugs and terrorism. Next time you attempt to purchase your cycle... you are funding terrorism in the eyes of the government. We have no need for the Patriot Act. We have enough intruments to keep us safe. No need to relinquish all our freedoms.
 
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