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Yes, it's confirmed. Fedor confirms this today, fight takes place July 19, scheduled for the American Airlines Center in Dallas, the home base of HDNet fights. Sources indicate the bout will air on the Mark Cuban-owned network and is rumored to be promoted by Affliction clothing brand. Sylvia is actually Fedor's first ranked opponent since his unanimous decision over Cro Cop nearly three years ago. Regardless, I say chalk up another loss for big Tim.
 
chaos13 said:
i would agree with you there. but they were spending a fair bit of money trying to make him a star.
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Forrest the faggot Griffin has that title now. He's the UFC's new poster bitch. I can't wait for Page to dismantle that ugly ass prick.
 
Holy asskicking, Batman!

Can you imagine Sylvia doing his best impression of Frankenstein's monster gone haywire, getting beaten to death by an elite East European athlete?

I like Tim but geezus. I hope he's getting paid.
 
curvymommy said:
IDKWTH you are talking about but just wanted to say hi! Where u been?































JK, Fedor will destroy Tim Sylvia although he IS a worthy opponent.
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lol :heart:
 
chaos13 said:
it will be suprising if forrest makes it out of the first round
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I remember making that same prediction myself for the shogun fight........than forrest went and tapped him out. I'm not doubting forrest again.......yeah, I'd still bet on page, but he's gonna get a war from Forrest.

And I'm not going to watch Fedor and Sylvia. Sylvia sucks and Fedor is going to be out of tune from having been out of the mix for so long.
 
redsamurai said:
And I'm not going to watch Fedor and Sylvia. Sylvia sucks and Fedor is going to be out of tune from having been out of the mix for so long.
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I think this is going to be a better fight than a lot of people think. Fedor may have not fought a 'ranked' opponent in nearly 3 years, but he does not take any of his opponents lightly. An objective person knows that Fedor is the favorite but Tim cannot be taken lightly. Fedor is going to take some hard jabs. Fedor's greatest asset is his mind. There are many that are stronger, faster, even more skilled but Fedor picks his shots and uses different strategies to beat different fighters. Plus Fedor and his coaches are master gameplanners. They studied Nog's BJJ skills and blocked all his subs. They studied Mirko's striking and Fedor was able to outstrike him and back him up. They brought in a guy with a similar build to Hunt to simulate the fight etc. Tim is always going to have his strikers chance, but I have Fedor by submission.
 
redsamurai said:
BY the way, whatever happened to Hunt?
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To be quite honest, I haven't heard or seen a damn thing on that fat bastard since the Fedor fight. I do know he hasn't fought since. Maybe he's training his ass off for a comeback.
 
RearNaked said:
To be quite honest, I haven't heard or seen a damn thing on that fat bastard since the Fedor fight. I do know he hasn't fought since. Maybe he's training his ass off for a comeback.
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I hope so......that's the hardest I've seen Fedor fight. If Hunt ever learns to block a key lock.......he might be one of the only guys who can back Fedor down and possibly win. He had some nice take down reversals against Fedor..........but he needs to learn to stand up if he's on top. He's not a ground master.
 
All Fedor has to do is watch Sylvia vs. Couture and repeat exactly what he did. Sylvia got beat quite nicely there. Fedor will have no problem whatsoever, he'll probably end the fight a lot faster than Randy did.
 
ponyfitness said:
All Fedor has to do is watch Sylvia vs. Couture and repeat exactly what he did. Sylvia got beat quite nicely there. Fedor will have no problem whatsoever, he'll probably end the fight a lot faster than Randy did.
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+1
This is fedor's most recent fight and this guy looks bigger than sylvia.
 
RearNaked said:
Forrest the faggot Griffin has that title now. He's the UFC's new poster bitch. I can't wait for Page to dismantle that ugly ass prick.
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Rampage will butt fuck him.

And if Couture could be Tim ... Fedor will also butt fuck Sylvia.
 
tim sylvia is NOT a good fighter. his technical skils blow, see the way he lumbers around the octagon like a friggin gorilla, his striking is two-dimentional and basic, he cant judo or bjj, he relies on nothing but his sheer size to wins fights. yeah, the guy has a good chin, but his guard is poor. the sylvia vs couture fight demonstrated that- how many times did randy land the overhand right?10 times? PER round?
and thers just something about the guy i cannot stand, he's so smug. i hate that.
 
PICK3 said:
Is that the Mo that Frye beat?
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No. You're thinking of Takayama, "The Hot One". Fedor's last fight was against Hong Man Choi, a 7-2" K1 kickboxer.
 
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*The_West* said:
tim sylvia is NOT a good fighter. his technical skils blow, see the way he lumbers around the octagon like a friggin gorilla, his striking is two-dimentional and basic, he cant judo or bjj, he relies on nothing but his sheer size to wins fights. yeah, the guy has a good chin, but his guard is poor. the sylvia vs couture fight demonstrated that- how many times did randy land the overhand right?10 times? PER round?
and thers just something about the guy i cannot stand, he's so smug. i hate that.
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I would disagree and say he has an excellent guard and respectable submissions. He almost had Monson in a triangle and Monson has won the Abu Dhabi Combat Club World Heavyweight championships on multiple occasions.

Sylvia's game is boring because he sets up for very basic striking. He does deliver on most occasions too as his record is 24-4 against some respectable competition. Randy figured out his set ups and could counter at will. You can't excel in modern MMA being as full of weaknesses as you attribute to Syvia.
 
Jacob Creutzfeldt said:
I would disagree and say he has an excellent guard and respectable submissions. He almost had Monson in a triangle and Monson has won the Abu Dhabi Combat Club World Heavyweight championships on multiple occasions.

Sylvia's game is boring because he sets up for very basic striking. He does deliver on most occasions too as his record is 24-4 against some respectable competition. Randy figured out his set ups and could counter at will. You can't excel in modern MMA being as full of weaknesses as you attribute to Syvia.
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ALMOST had monson in a triangle. i accept the last sentence of your post, but with sylvia as an exception- he only gets away with it because of his sheer size! nothing else. if he was 6 foot dead with shorter arms his record of 24-4 would more likely be 4-24,there is no way anyone can deny that .just watch him fight- jab, jab, jab, cross, jab cross, jab, jab, cross poking his ridiculously long arms out like hes waving 2 broom sticks at his opponents. thats all he does.
he just has no style, no flair, nothing about him.
 
I love the gorilla comment. He's got some weird body language/mannerisms in the ring. I always think he's like uncoordinated or frankenstien-like.
 
*The_West* said:
ALMOST had monson in a triangle. i accept the last sentence of your post, but with sylvia as an exception- he only gets away with it because of his sheer size! nothing else. if he was 6 foot dead with shorter arms his record of 24-4 would more likely be 4-24,there is no way anyone can deny that .just watch him fight- jab, jab, jab, cross, jab cross, jab, jab, cross poking his ridiculously long arms out like hes waving 2 broom sticks at his opponents. thats all he does.
he just has no style, no flair, nothing about him.
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He's not flashy, but he wins. It's true his style would not work at 6-0", but he's not 6-0" he's 6'8" I think. For comparison sake, if Rocky Marciano (skilled) at 5' 11" tried to make a career of fighting like Lennox Lewis (skilled) at 6'5" he would tend to lose. The fighters must adapt both to their opponent's style and the style best suiting their body type. It's not as simple as Tim being very big. Semmy Schilt is 6'10", has won the K-1 World Grand Prix, and has top shelf striking skills. Schilt's MMA record is different. Although it is certainly respectable, Schilt is in no way as successful as Tim. Schilt is bigger and a more skilled and versatile striker, but in the MMA format he cannot get into position to unleash strikes as effectively as Tim. Nogueira absolutely dominated Schilt in their Pride match. Tim had Nogueira on the verge of defeat.

I grant you he's not flashy or exciting or versatile with his strikes, but he has the ability to get into the position to deliver his limited arsenal of strikes and that is where his strength lies and that is what makes him dangerous.
 
Fedor is going to do to Tim what Randy did unless Tim makes adjustments. Both Randy and Fedor are absolute masters at formulating strategies to defeat opponents.
 
Jacob Creutzfeldt said:
Both Randy and Fedor are absolute masters at formulating strategies to defeat opponents.
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I like the way you think bro. Far too many folks that just have too damn much television 'experience' with mma. But hey, opinions and debate is why we post on these boards right? Everybodys entitled to their own, some are simply far more amusing than others. Obviously everybody doesn't have actual mma experience, and it's all good, some still bring very valid points. Her's another bit of info I just stumbled across, the 'rumored' undercard to this fight:

Tim Sylvia Vs. Fedor

Andrei Arlovski Vs. Ben Rothwell

Babalu Vs. Mike Whitehead

Pedro Rizzo Vs. Josh Barnett

Alexander Emelienenko vs. TBA

This would be one hell of a card! I am stoked, but has not been confirmed yet. Another thing to keep in mind is, HDNet fights are cage. Fedors first cage fight. Cage fucked Cro Cop. Although with Fedors master gameplanner coaches, he's likely training in a cage somwhere as I type this shit. I still got Fedor by sub.
 
There is a good chance Fedor's coaches might perceive Sylvia as a guy who will yield after feeling Fedor's power. Expect him to get cracked pretty good before they go to the ground. There is not a training partner in this world that can simulate what its like to have Fedor grab a hold of you. Tim can train Judo and BJJ all her wants but fedor's GnP is from another Galaxy...
 
Big Rick Rock said:
There is a good chance Fedor's coaches might perceive Sylvia as a guy who will yield after feeling Fedor's power. Expect him to get cracked pretty good before they go to the ground. There is not a training partner in this world that can simulate what its like to have Fedor grab a hold of you. Tim can train Judo and BJJ all her wants but fedor's GnP is from another Galaxy...
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Haha...love your input bro, never had any doubts you know your mma. I believe Fedor may take a few good jabs in this one, but jabs is about all. Don't think it's going to be quite as one sided as many think. Besides, look at Tims arms, they're fucking made for armbars...lololol!!!
 
RearNaked said:
Haha...love your input bro, never had any doubts you know your mma. I believe Fedor may take a few good jabs in this one, but jabs is about all. Don't think it's going to be quite as one sided as many think. Besides, look at Tims arms, they're fucking made for armbars...lololol!!!
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Fedor has already fought guys much taller than him. Tim is not a new world... Everybody Tim has ever fought says he is the biggest guy they have faced.... Fedor has fought and finished guys Tim's size and taller...



I don't think it will be all one sided. But Tim will need to keep up with Fedor's pace...


Also... Do you guys know if they are fighting in a cage or ring?

In a ring Fedor will have a serious advantage.
In a cage Tim will have a better change to put on a good show... Fedor still takes it though.
 
Big Rick Rock said:
Fedor has already fought guys much taller than him. Tim is not a new world... Everybody Tim has ever fought says he is the biggest guy they have faced.... Fedor has fought and finished guys Tim's size and taller...



I don't think it will be all one sided. But Tim will need to keep up with Fedor's pace...


Also... Do you guys know if they are fighting in a cage or ring?

In a ring Fedor will have a serious advantage.
In a cage Tim will have a better change to put on a good show... Fedor still takes it though.
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Oh yes...no one bigger than Hong Man Choi...lol.

HDNet fights are cage bro.
 
Fedor really puts the "pound" in "ground-n-pound". Any of you guys ever notice how Fedor punches? If you watch how Fedor punches, he strikes with one knuckle. I don't know if this is part of the secret to his "pound". Nobody bounces a head off the canvas like Fedor. It looks like he's dribbling a ball when he gets on a roll.

 
RearNaked said:
Oh yes...no one bigger than Hong Man Choi...lol.

HDNet fights are cage bro.
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Fedor trounced Semmy Schilt too. Semmy is a top shelf, 6'10" K1 Grand Prix winner.
 
after looking at that choi fight.........did anyone notice Fedor has lost some muscle mass? Fedor was never ripped mind you.........but he still had real good upper body mass in his shoulders arms and chest. I saw a crocop highlight vid the other day that showed him at the end in the UFC..........he also dropped a considerable amount of muscle. I dunno............"maybe", Fedor balked at the UFC initially because of the stricter testing. He looked flat against choi..........didn't have the pop. I think a couple years ago he would have finished the take down. I realize choi is rather large, but Fedor has fought other large men and been able to take them down after making them eat that appalling left hook.
 
Wow after watching that video I think Fedor is the full package. If he gets a guy stunned, he goes for a sub. That's great strategy. So many guys just keep striking when that happens. I bet it's much harder to control your body to guard against holds when you're stunned. I think it's borderline instinct to hold your hands in front of your face and/or go into fetal. But it's harder to remember not to let him position himself in a certain way.
 
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